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Very interesting. Thanks for the back and forth, I’ve enjoyed it. Overall I still feel this game comes down to the QB/OL/DLs, if we can harass Sayin then we have a chance, if not then we’re cooked. If we can give Arch time then we have a chance, if not we’re cooked. Personally don’t think either team will mount much of a rushing attack unless their QB is doing well. Otherworldly WRs can’t do much if their QB doesn’t have time. Can’t wait to watch.

100%. And among the best in the nation means different things to different people. To me that means Ohio State will have one of the ten best defensive lines in the country. With Ohio State’s history, recruiting, and coaching I don’t think that’s a stretch.

Preach

Maybe I’m seeing through burnt orange glasses…but I see Arch as an immediate upgrade at QB. Period.

The jury is still out on whether they'll be among the best in the nation, if they do I honestly believe this years defense will be superior to last. We can all speculate all we want but we do know this, 3 of the 4 DL that you'll face in Columbus played meaningful snaps and performed very well in the Cotton Bowl last year against that OL. I see no reason to think that they won't play well again this year against this years reworked version

Here’s my honest opinion just for clarity WRs: Elite TEs: Elite RBs: Very good IOL: Elite OTs: Very good QB: Good but inexperienced DL: Very good LBs: Elite, just behind Texas CBs: Elite Safeties: Very good K: Average, inconsistent P: Above average, nothing special

That is why I wanted to come here and give my opinions. Same goes for Texas by the way. I learned that the Texas offensive line isn’t nearly as inexperienced as I thought they were. My prediction is 31-17 Ohio State. I’ve been wrong plenty FYI, and will probably be wrong here too lol

guess we'll find out saturday about goosby yo

To be fair, Texas can say elite for many of the same.

So reading through the comments the Buckeyes think their team is: Oline: elite QB: near elite but young RB: very good WR: elite TE: elite DL: elite LB: elite Secondary: elite Sounds like back to back national championship is the expectation there.

Super interesting to get the Buckeye fan perspective. Definitely different than I usually hear listening to Longhorn podcasts everyday, makes me less confident! Sounds like you’re expecting a fairly straightforward Buckeye win, care to give a prediction?

I call BS. He was probably talking about cruising around St. Louis in a wheel barrow and some poor reporter tried to translate it to English.

Totally forgot about that! Would love for the Horns to avenge their CFP loss in Columbus similar to how the Ducks did (albeit many years after their CFP loss)

Current Roster excluding walk ons Seniors: DJ Campbell (5 Star), Cole Hudson (4 Star) Juniors: Connor Roberson (3 Star), Neto Umeozulu (4 star) Sophomore: Brandon Baker (5 Star), Jaydon Chatman (4 Star), Andre Cojoe (3 Star), Trevor Goosby (4 Star), Connor Stroh (3 Star) Freshman: Nick Brooks (4 Star), Jackson Christian (3 Star), Devin & Jordan Coleman (3 Stars), Daniel Cruz (4 Star), Nate Kibble (4 Star) Incoming class: John Turntine (4 Star), Nicolas Robertson (3 Star), Max Wright (3 Star) Transferred out: Malik Agbo, Payton Kirkland, Sawyer Gorman-Welch Information was based on 24/7 I feel like Kyle Flood has a respectable OL pipeline and that there is enough talent on campus to protect Arch and have a quality run game. However, the argument could be made that we are thin at tackle and Flood has landed less elite prospects since the fantastic pancake factory class. Time will tell and imo will really depend upon OL evaluations as no brainer recruits are hard to find and expensive.

Yeah, only Oregon in 2021.

Not trying to be a funny guy or anything, genuinely curious. Has anyone beside Michigan been able to beat Ryan Day at the shoe?

That's actually a good topic for @Gerry Hamilton @Bobby Burton and @CJ Vogel. What position groups on the team have gotten better, worse or are treading water from where they were at the Cotton Bowl earlier this year. I'll go first: QB - Treading water. I think Arch has a higher ceiling but third start vs. Quinn's last game at Texas you have to call at best a push. RB - Treading water. For better or worse the staff decided to roll with our roster from last season. It'll be a heavy dose of Wisner and some smaller percentages of Baxter and Clark. Losing Blue's production from the Cotton Bowl also hurts. WR - Downgrade from the Cotton Bowl. Golden alone gives the 2024 squad the advantage. Moore is Moore. Wingo can unseat Golden for sure this season but he hasn't done it yet. TE - Downgrade. Edge to Helm at this point over Endries. OL - Downgrade. Gotta go 2024 until we see what's up with this new OL arrangement. So many mixed reports from camp about DL all over the backfield. We really won't know until Columbus, but I'll take Banks, Majors and Williams as known the known commodity. DT - Push. We are much deeper now but i'm not sure any two of the current DT stack up to Collins and Broughton as a pure duo on the field yet. Edge - IMPROVEMENT! Gotta love the depth and development here. A big advantage over the Cotton Bowl. LB - IMPROVEMENT! Another year of Ant. More supporting cast around him. Looking really good here. DB - Push. Hard to not say it's a downgrade when you lose Makuba and Barron, but we seem stacked with options and another offseason with Manny in a possible contract year, another offseason with a hugely motivated Taaffe, and development from the youth movement around them and I think this is a push with potential to be a better position group by year's end. SPECIAL TEAMS - HUGE UPGRADE. I'd also like to see a huge upgrade from kickoff and punt returns this season. Might as well start with a game breaker in Columbus.

Brother, this isn’t our first rodeo

Now I understand. You’re doing your critical thinking at a 4th, 5th, or 6th grade level.

That's Oz Pearlman-level mentalist stuff. Interesting Joe Rogan episode where Oz explains (sort of) how he does it. https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/41499733 This one ^ is wild... well they all are

If Lefau isn't starting at LB (he is) then that's Smith.

Lol. Sure it will.