bierce Posted November 27 Author Share Posted November 27 Even worse, Nembhard came out after first timeout. Zags tried to put him in after second timeout. Can't do that. Now Zags don't have their starting pg on the floor for the last play. They got it in and dribbled into traffic in the lane. Ball knocked away. No foul called. OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 27 Author Share Posted November 27 ISU forced 18 turnovers and shot 60+% to win 99-71. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 27 Author Share Posted November 27 WVU won 86-78 in OT. DeVries was big at the end of regulation, but this was Javon Small's day--31 points, 7 rebounds. WVU got all of 2 points from its bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 53 minutes ago, bierce said: Mark Few angry, just not Hurley angry, about a foul call on a Zag player when he bit on a fake and the WVU shooter then jumped sideways to make contact. Three ft for DeVries. Teams had been trading single point leads. DeVries missed the first, so they still can. 2:50 left, WVU up one. More angry than Frank Martin? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkInAustin Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 23 minutes ago, Jordan91 said: More angry than Frank Martin? Where is Frank Martin today? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 27 Author Share Posted November 27 12 minutes ago, Jordan91 said: More angry than Frank Martin? Not even close. I don't know if UMass will have a lot of patience with Martin if the team doesn't improve after the torching it suffered against Florida State. He lost three players to transfer, but he returned 4 of the top 7 in minutes played last year. Hunter just got kicked in the face when he was on the ground after missing a dunk. Auburn up 39-19 with 4:33 left in the half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 27 Author Share Posted November 27 It looked pretty inadvertent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 27 Author Share Posted November 27 Pearl emulating Hurley. Pissed the refs didn't call Memphis guard for clearing out with his arm on his drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 28 Author Share Posted November 28 UNC hit a three to tie with 5+_ seconds left. I will never understand why coaches do not have their teams trained to inbound as far as they can before calling timeout instead of calling timeout after the opponent makes a shot. Michigan State had to dribble up and got no worthwhile shot. This should be automatic. The clock is stopped. Look for the opportunity to make a pass to an open man 35+ feet from the baseline, and if there isn't an open man, then call the timeout. Don't just automatically call the timeout without trying to make an inbound pass. Stupid. And I see it over and over and over. Even from Hall of Fame coaches like Izzo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Butler Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 On 11/25/2024 at 1:22 PM, CJ Vogel said: One of the best weeks of the year! Amen!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 28 Author Share Posted November 28 Michigan State survives because its broken play in OT finished with a dunk while UNC's broken play on the next possession finished with a layup going off the rim and being rebounded by MSU. 94-91 final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 28 Author Share Posted November 28 Announcers trying to claim MSU didn't get the ball inbound within 5 seconds on its last possssion in OT. They aren't showing a stopwatch. Boo. Way to try to create controversy where there might not be any. Are they going to look at the previous possession in which 5 seconds was called against MSU? Noooooooo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkInAustin Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 Happy Thanksgiving! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 28 Author Share Posted November 28 UConn lost again and by a wide margin last night, 85-67. Three games against (previously) unranked teams. Three losses. Dropped to 28th in Pomeroy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 28 Author Share Posted November 28 Most interesting game for Texas fans today might be NC State-Purdue at 2 in San Diego. NC State has moved the needle in neither direction in its first five games, winning them by an average of 19 points, but all games were at home and against opponents between 198 and 343 in Pomeroy with a mean ranking of 258. NC State relies on interior scoring. It doesn't shoot threes well, but it holds opponents to a low % from the arc, and it forces a lot of turnovers. Will be interesting to see whether Purdue gets good looks from the arc. The Boilermakers are a very good 3pt shooting team. The other game in San Diego pits Mississippi against BYU. Arkansas plays Illinois in KC today. Showcase game, not a tournament. Florida is sneaky. It is playing in a tournament in Kissimmee, so home crowd advantage against the field, starting with WF today. Miss. State plays UNLV in Tempe. A&M won a close one over Creighton 77-73. It was on Max, so I didn't see a bit of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators CJ Vogel Posted November 28 Moderators Share Posted November 28 I am man enough to admit I wasted a couple dollars with my Kalkbrenner for Wooden bet. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 28 Author Share Posted November 28 53 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said: I am man enough to admit I wasted a couple dollars with my Kalkbrenner for Wooden bet. Sad. They just can't get him the ball frequently against P5 competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 28 Author Share Posted November 28 Does anyone else think the Battle 4 Atlantis rims look a little off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 28 Author Share Posted November 28 WV and Louisville going back and forth with offensive fouls in the second half. Waterman got two in about 2 minutes, the first by walking sideways and shoving with both arms while screening. The other offensive fouls in the sequence were generally of the more pedestrian man with the ball pushing off variety. WVU up 37-29. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 28 Author Share Posted November 28 And there is why I always hate waiting until the final 5 seconds on the shot clock to try to score in a tie game. WVU didn't get a shot off in time. Louisville ball with 1.8 seconds left and a timeout. It can inbound to an open man as deeply as it can and call timeout. But instead of doing that, it threw a pass to a guarded player in the paint. OT. Bad strategy by both coaches, IMO. The first coach played to preserve the tie. The second coach didn't use his tools to his team's advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 28 Author Share Posted November 28 West Virginia lost 79-70 in OT, a deserved loss for not trying to run offense in the last 12 seconds of regulation. I still would bet Coach DeVries will do the same thing in the final seconds of a tie game. Tell his pg to dribble the clock down to the magic 6 second mark, then drive. That is what every coach always does, and I don't understand. Well, I do in theory (deny the other team a chance to take the last shot), but I see it lead to poor results too often to not want someone like Pomeroy or someone like that do a real study on end of game scenarios. What is the likelihood of scoring in final possession started at 30 seconds, 25 seconds, 20 seconds, etc? Is there a magic drop-off point? Is a team better off running full offense from the get-go instead of reducing itself to a single drive to try to deny the other team a possession? Why does everyone insist on starting the drive with 6 or 7 seconds? Isn't that to have a chance at an offensive rebound? But fighting for position for an offensive rebound is one of the ways a team is most likely to commit a foul and give the other team free throws, so that negates the supposed advantage of not letting the opponent have a chance to score. So I don't get it. With so many variables to allow for a change of possession (charge, illegal screen, steal, etc) and the opponent getting a shot, why not just run your best offensive play to maximize your chance to score and then run defense? If you are willing to play for OT, you must be trusting your team to beat the other on even terms, so why not trust it to beat the other team on uneven terms of having the ball with less than 30 seconds to go and running full offense, compared to opponent having far less time to get off a play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 28 Author Share Posted November 28 16-9 Purdue with 12:05 left in the 1st half. Purdue without a turnover and 2/3 bta, but only 3 attempts bta out of 13 fga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 28 Author Share Posted November 28 Purdue 33-32 at the half. Purdue shooting 3/8 bta out of 28 fga. Last miss was at the buzzer after a tap-out of a rebound. Huntley-Hatfield being impactful for NC State--11 points, 5 rebounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 5 hours ago, bierce said: Most interesting game for Texas fans today might be NC State-Purdue at 2 in San Diego. NC State has moved the needle in neither direction in its first five games, winning them by an average of 19 points, but all games were at home and against opponents between 198 and 343 in Pomeroy with a mean ranking of 258. NC State relies on interior scoring. It doesn't shoot threes well, but it holds opponents to a low % from the arc, and it forces a lot of turnovers. Will be interesting to see whether Purdue gets good looks from the arc. The Boilermakers are a very good 3pt shooting team. The other game in San Diego pits Mississippi against BYU. Arkansas plays Illinois in KC today. Showcase game, not a tournament. Florida is sneaky. It is playing in a tournament in Kissimmee, so home crowd advantage against the field, starting with WF today. Miss. State plays UNLV in Tempe. A&M won a close one over Creighton 77-73. It was on Max, so I didn't see a bit of it. Relies on interior scoring. With Texas front court who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted November 28 Author Share Posted November 28 Got bored with NC State-Purdue, so watching Arky-Illinois now. Arky has a huge amount of talent, but its half court offense is as primitive as it gets. Somebody drives and shoots and that's it. Three assists on ten baskets with 3:51 left in the half. Two of the assists were on transition buckets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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