Hoops: Texas vs. Chris Beard Game Thread

[pinkman_90]

6 hours ago, BobInHouston said:

This is what puzzles me and frustrates me when it comes to college hoops fans. Ole Miss is ranked pretty much across the board in the low to mid-20 in polls and metrics. Texas is just a little below, but close. High D-I basketball is extremely competitive. What does "very average" really mean to you?

What would you prefer Bobby High Horse?  Would you prefer if I called them somewhat above average?  Decently average bordering on good?  Pipe down.  

Edited January 30 by pinkman_90

[Jordan91]

16 minutes ago, bierce said:

I hope the mods here chase the story a bit and flesh it out for us. 

Really hope they do. Pretty sure Gerry is not surprised. 

[Jordan91]

6 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

What would you prefer Bobby High Horse?  Would you prefer if I called them somewhat above average?  Decently average bordering on good?  Pipe down.  

He’s just answering your comments. He’s a knowledgeable poster. You can disagree with him without calling him names. 

[pinkman_90]

1 hour ago, Jordan91 said:

He’s just answering your comments. He’s a knowledgeable poster. You can disagree with him without calling him names. 

You got the wrong guy.  Don’t come at me for calling him “names” when he’s the one being snarky and condescending.  

[Jordan91]

1 hour ago, pinkman_90 said:

You got the wrong guy.  Don’t come at me for calling him “names” when he’s the one being snarky and condescending.  

He said what frustrates him is fans, he did not single you out. I have talked to this guy on three different sites. We have disagreed a lot. He would simply call you by your name if that’s what his intention is.  I get that you are frustrated. I am not even disagreeing with what you are saying. I simply said you don’t have to call him names. I fully realize it’s a message board and you can call anyone whatever you want. It’s simply a suggestion by me. You certainly don’t have to follow it. Take care.

[pinkman_90]

8 minutes ago, Jordan91 said:

He said what frustrates him is fans, he did not single you out. I have talked to this guy on three different sites. We have disagreed a lot. He would simply call you by your name if that’s what his intention is.  I get that you are frustrated. I am not even disagreeing with what you are saying. I simply said you don’t have to call him names. I fully realize it’s a message board and you can call anyone whatever you want. It’s simply a suggestion by me. You certainly don’t have to follow it. Take care.

1. Saying someone is on their high horse is about as tame is it gets

2. The guy was being a douche and when people act like that they don’t deserve real conversation.  

[bierce]

This thread was about Texas Longhorn basketball once.

I hope the next thread about Longhorn basketball stays on the subject.

Or, for another poster's benefit--stays the subject at?

[BobInHouston]

17 hours ago, pinkman_90 said:

Now if only that’s what I meant you’d be spot on.  What would the metrics have said if it was a win?  Would a road conference win have helped our chances on the bubble?

Yes, a road win against a higher-ranked team is always going to help you.

It's a tough loss but that's why road wins are treated like gems.

[BobInHouston]

17 hours ago, pinkman_90 said:

What would you prefer Bobby High Horse?  Would you prefer if I called them somewhat above average?  Decently average bordering on good?  Pipe down.  

I asked first. What do you mean?

Edit: Let me clarify. There has to be a measurement between a team that is ranked across the board and a team that is "very average." What makes you say that? What qualities does Ole Miss have or lack?

The other part of this to me is a broader assessment that teams that aren't more highly ranked actually kinda suck. In other words, Texas winning that game -- a road win against a ranked team -- probably wouldn't have changed your assessment of them that much. Is that correct?

Further, where is your line on good teams (particularly as opposed to excellent or great teams)? For example, Oregon is ranked, has several good wins on the board, but they've managed to lose at Minnesota, soundly, and got pounded again last night at UCLA. I easily could call them very average and have a basis for it, even though they are very highly ranked in Bart Torvik's measurement of Wins Above Bracket. They have some really good wins (although not since Thanksgiving), and now a couple of pretty ugly losses.

All I'm asking is for you to tell me why you think Ole Miss is very average. It's an honest question, not a troll or a gotcha?

Edited January 31 by BobInHouston

[pinkman_90]

49 minutes ago, BobInHouston said:

I asked first. What do you mean?

Edit: Let me clarify. There has to be a measurement between a team that is ranked across the board and a team that is "very average." What makes you say that? What qualities does Ole Miss have or lack?

The other part of this to me is a broader assessment that teams that aren't more highly ranked actually kinda suck. In other words, Texas winning that game -- a road win against a ranked team -- probably wouldn't have changed your assessment of them that much. Is that correct?

Further, where is your line on good teams (particularly as opposed to excellent or great teams)? For example, Oregon is ranked, has several good wins on the board, but they've managed to lose at Minnesota, soundly, and got pounded again last night at UCLA. I easily could call them very average and have a basis for it, even though they are very highly ranked in Bart Torvik's measurement of Wins Above Bracket. They have some really good wins (although not since Thanksgiving), and now a couple of pretty ugly losses.

All I'm asking is for you to tell me why you think Ole Miss is very average. It's an honest question, not a troll or a gotcha?

Maybe you should’ve started with the last paragraph instead of saying you had a problem with college basketballs like me (whatever that means).

 

could’ve been a solid conversation 

[BobInHouston]

47 minutes ago, pinkman_90 said:

Maybe you should’ve started with the last paragraph instead of saying you had a problem with college basketballs like me (whatever that means).

 

could’ve been a solid conversation 

I would love more basketball talk. I am asking you to explain your opinion *because* it will make for a solid conversation. If you don't want to answer because you've chosen to take my comment personally, that's on you.

[pinkman_90]

5 minutes ago, BobInHouston said:

I would love more basketball talk. I am asking you to explain your opinion *because* it will make for a solid conversation. If you don't want to answer because you've chosen to take my comment personally, that's on you.

Guess it’s my loss then.  Think I’ll be able to get over it though.  

Edited January 31 by pinkman_90

[bierce]

We have beaten the Pomeroy prediction in each of the last three games and by an average of 3.3 points per game.

Keep it going, guys.  Pomeroy has us winning or in a one possession game in 9 of our last 10 games.