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I had a bad feeling when I saw 3 pages on this thread that I would have to read through a bunch of the posts not related to the thread topic.

You know Gerry, that gets more enjoyable each time I watch it.

Very concise take on the matter, @Gerry Hamilton. Like so many things in life, there's more than one answer. Kudos. P

Maybe you should try watching the modern game of basketball. Other posters have already laid it out for you. My guess is you’re either trolling or too dense to see what’s been presented to you.

Love the high numbers, not sure why, but they're cool.

Oh, I definitely think there is confusion. People try to pigeon hole what one is. Absolutely define what a positional player has to be, to be a quality player or impact winning. I'm always going to say there are so many ways to win and be successful, with so many different skill set players nowadays in college hoops. Your team runner/combo guard or pure PG (if you find a rare one these days) can be floor spacer shooter that get's a team into action/sets and doesn't have to be the playmaker off the bounce - if said player has another guard playing off of him that's the creator. And parts on the team around him fit to a system and create space and angles. IMO, the systems nowadays are more important than a PG/lead guard/combo guard in college basketball. Or the roster creation. Duke absolutely doesn't have a PG this year. Or a true off the bounce creator consistently. They built a roster with extreme length, enough perimeter shooting and an elite big (who leads team in assists). They have the ability to recruit a roster like that, of course. This is the team runner/combo guard I want as a college coach. (UConn played two CG roles on that team). Elite shooter that can play on or off ball, and still run a team. Absolutely puts high-end pressure on an opponent without being a pure PG, drive and kick CG/team runner at the college level. The plays he made off dribble were more built from the system. And he played in the system beautifully. Rarely was there a drive inside ten feet that was a pure creation. He plays a totally different game in the NBA as a team runner/PG now with the 48 minute spacing in the NBA game.

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The Agony of Defeat.

Love that and when their wagon wrecked

I'm old, he's a relic from an archeological dig.

"The boys took a beating on that one" - LMAO. Fantastic.

I thought all the trolls were on OB....🤣

Is this @Joe Zurawatching Oregon CFP games?

https://x.com/footbaiiism/status/2021413380427252109?s=46

Josh Pate said last night the mood for Texas fans is championship or bust . Agree or disagree?

I’m sure he’s paid handsomely. He’s high on Texas for 2026, he just doesn’t know how long sark will be here which is a fair point.

Last time we played Tennessee. Happened to be my first Cotton Bowl. I was 9. My seat was in front of Tommy Nobis. He and his buds smoked the biggest cigars I'd ever seen. Had that team started the season in the wishbone, they'd probably have gone undefeated.

True, original wishbone was Koy, Worster, and Gilbert. 1969 Champs were Bertelsen, Worster, and Koy. That 1968 team was pretty awesome by the end of the season. A lot of great players in their last season such as Chris: teammates like Bill Bradley, Corby Robertsen, Loyd Wainscott, Deryl Comer (injured & returned a little in 1970), Ken Gidney, Danny Abbott, Denny Aldridge and others I'm forgetting. But that team blew aTm's socks off (defending SWC Champs with a lot of returners and monkey stomped Tennessee in the Cotton Bowl.

37 pts in the first half is insane

His junior year, when he was 3rd in the Heisman voting (a trip to NYC these days), he broke the SWC single season mark which had stood since 1951. Just a helluva back, and everything JimR6 says about what he meant to the program is spot imo. It is shame that knee injuries during that time had such a diblitating effect on players.

Liar.

Man, what a special talent

Jim Bertelsmann replaced Gilbert. Ted Koy was in the original 1968 wishbone backfield

And if I would have had just 3 more correct lottery numbers I'd be a multi millionaire. 😁