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Calling it “my opinion” doesn’t make it less true and you don’t have to get it for it to still be a fact. Herman coached under a four-team playoff, no NIL, no transfer portal, and no way to instantly fix roster holes. Those are verifiable realities, not feelings. Sark’s had all those advantages for five years yet the on field product hasn’t evolved. That’s not debate, that’s data.

Sure is lots of dumbassery in this thread yet they will be right back on the “sarks our guy” train once we’re back to double digit wins and a CFP appearance next year.

I have no idea what any of that means, but it is certainly your opinion that Herman was “limited” here.

Honestly @Gerry Hamilton I think sumrall to Kentucky an golesh to ole miss? That will leave James Franklin would that just be norvell 1.0

The Texas Longhorns have made back to black college football playoff appearances. This season they are certainly underwhelming with a horrific offensive line and mediocre quarterback and wide receiver play. They have a spectacular defense and an above average special teams. That’s where we are. Come on man this program is light years ahead of where it was under Herman if you’re upset Sark so be it what to even compare. The two is not the route to take.

Great Q. I hear Sumrall at Tulane and Golesh at USF will be on the list

Nope, the clear #1 problem with this offense is Arch Manning. There is more than enough evidence of him having clean pockets and wide open WRs and him delivering uncatachable passes consistently. He also has no idea how to read a defense post snap which causes him to hold onto the ball which allows the pressures to get home. His ability to make off platform throws is elite, but it's hard to say the WRs can't get separation when the opposing defense knows what we are doing and they aren't concerned with our QB or running game. Seriously, he completed 3 passes in the 2nd half of the game last night. It's clearly him, and that's not excusing other things that are fundamentally wrong with the offense, but everything starts with him. Wisner may not be a top 3 round RB in the NFL draft, but he's clearly the best player on offense and was the only returning 1K SEC RB. He also won the last two games against OU nearly by himself. He's clearly a net positive for the offense, which is more than I can say for the only guy you actually refuse to blame completely.

What Sark wants the offense to be and what it needs to be are very far apart

Recruiting got worse every year and the 2021 class was barren. Those results?

So your answer is to fire everyone?

The point about results still stands, it’s about what actually happens on the field, not opinions or anecdotes. Herman’s failures are well documented, but context matters. Observables > opinions, always. Facts don’t require agreement.

Imagine a “poor Tom Herman” thread back in 2019-20. I can’t!

So, infinitely more playoff appearances and conference championships, even under the four team playoff. 2x as many CCG appearances. Am I missing something?

Completion percent like 2x Arch lol

The irony of you saying “Results matter more than anecdotes” as you somehow try to spin Tom Herman’s tenure as anything but a failure. Also, why weren’t you around here as much after the Oklahoma game?

The offense is so bad that it's actually hard to decipher which phase is the worst. It's clear the O-line is straight up ass and it starts there, if Flood and Sark really thought these guys would get them to the natty then shame on them. The running game is another huge head scratcher, I like Wisner but in no world is he RB #1 on a playoff contending team, Baxter being mad out of glass hasn't helped matters at all. The receiving corp. can't get separation against players in the wheelchair Olympics, and I'm fairly certain that they they run the wrong routes about 40% of the time. That brings us to Arch, the jury is still out on him. Clearly his mechanics need work but the talent is there, If you put Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes behind this line they'd be seeing ghost too and I bet their mechanics would regress.

Yes, Sark made two CFPs and that’s worth acknowledging. But context also matters. Under the old four team playoff system, Sark would have only made it once in five seasons. The other seasons, including this year, Texas wouldn’t have qualified. That’s the reality when you strip away expanded playoff slots, NIL advantages, and the transfer portal. Making two CFPs in an era stacked with modern advantages doesn’t erase the fact that the offense remains inconsistent, QBs underdeveloped, and the team lacking a clear identity offensively.

He was a clown!

Actually, the REALITY is that he DID MAKE 2 CFPs in a row. THAT’S THE REALITY!

2 out of 3 phases were excellent. I’ll take it! Onto the next one.

The numbers look good. However he was sack twice and fumbled twice. His 1st pass was right in the hands of a DB but he dropped it. His lack of pocket presence was evident from the get go

Once more, no one had the NIL or portal either. I don’t see Herman excelling under the new rules any more the old ones. Recruiting was a major weakness of his.

Great throw with a defender in his face.

None of that changes the facts. Herman’s mistakes and personality issues don’t alter the structural realities: four-team playoff, no NIL, no transfer portal, no plug and play roster fixes. Sark has all of those advantages, and yet five years in, the offense is still predictable, QBs regress, and the team lacks identity. This isn’t about “disliking” anyone, it’s about observing what actually happens on the field. Results matter more than anecdotes unfortunately

I’m relieved. Which is a broad form of happiness.