OTF Premium The Case for More 10 Personnel | Sunday 10:35 p.m.

[CJ Vogel]

Texas was in 10 personnel for 8 plays that accounted 83 yards on Saturday vs. Oklahoma.

Good for 10.38 yards per play.

 

The eight snaps:

• 10-yard pass to Emmett Mosley V
• 15-yard pass to Cam Coleman
• 34-yard touchdown pass to Ryan Wingo
•  -- halftime --
• Arch Manning pick-six
• 9-yard pass to Emmett Mosley V
• 0-yard run by Hollywood Smothers
• 15-yard touchdown pass to Jermaine Bishop Jr.
• pass thrown away

The pick-six is the clear blemish. But completions on 6/7 other attempts for 83 yards is a good day given how much the Texas offense struggled throughout the game.

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Texas is averaging 9.93 yards per play in 10 personnel in the two SEC games where 10 personnel has been utilized.

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The personnel grouping is responsible for the following explosives in the two games:

• 34-yard pass
• 29-yard pass
• 18-yard pass
• 15-yard touchdown pass
• 15-yard pass
• 14-yard pass

 

[CJ Vogel]

The spacing from 10 personnel here creates an easy walk-in touchdown.

[CJ Vogel]

The key with 10 personnel is protection. Good protection in this unit typically results in a good play.

[Nikolas24]

They have to find away to run the ball out of 10 personnel or every defense will know what’s coming. 

[Alex Butler]

That pick 6 was doubly frustrating because Coleman was open but Arch sailed the throw 😕

[CJ Vogel]

1 minute ago, Nikolas24 said:

They have to find away to run the ball out of 10 personnel or every defense will know what’s coming. 

In theory there should be lighter boxes given spacing in the formation. But that requires the OL to win a lot of 1v1 battles. 

We will see a lot of teams blitz in 10P imo, especially given the somewhat dismissal of hot/check routes when defenses show pressure in pre-snap.

[Nikolas24]

Just now, CJ Vogel said:

In theory there should be lighter boxes given spacing in the formation. But that requires the OL to win a lot of 1v1 battles. 

We will see a lot of teams blitz in 10P imo, especially given the somewhat dismissal of hot/check routes when defenses show pressure in pre-snap.

That was my next thought too. Teams blitzing because we have no hot routes. 

[NothinButDaHorns34]

It is infuriating when we have a coach making 10 million reasons a year to figure this out himself, But somehow can’t. 

[Txhorn1213]

I truly don’t know what is worse, that every person can see that this team is not only built to work mostly out of 10p or that every time we do run it, it produces our biggest plays and our HC refuses to run it until we have to (hence the 4th quarter drive to bishop). Even as a fan at the game, every time they set up in spread, just as an eye test look so much better for a run play. I’m starting to let my mind run and think he’s trying to force a pro style offense to get NFL looks because no way someone can be this ignorant 

[Alex Butler]

6 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

In theory there should be lighter boxes given spacing in the formation. But that requires the OL to win a lot of 1v1 battles. 

We will see a lot of teams blitz in 10P imo, especially given the somewhat dismissal of hot/check routes when defenses show pressure in pre-snap.

Would like to use Arch in that as a runner too. Definitely adds difficulty if they have to spy him which devotes one less defender. I’m very frustrated why we’re not attacking the middle if the field and linebackers more this year especially with these blitzes?!

[SpurHorn]

17 minutes ago, Nikolas24 said:

They have to find away to run the ball out of 10 personnel or every defense will know what’s coming. 

I thought we had some good runs out of 11 personnel with the TE flexed out. 10 personnel and simple spread concepts is the clear answer for arch and this offense. So much quicker and easier to diagnose pre snap. Find the leverage. Get the ball to the WR and let him make a play. Also 10 personnel will lighten up the boxes which can make arch’s legs even more lethal. Sark needs to abandon his philosophy of not wanting the QB to run as well and intentionally tell arch to run it whenever he wants to. You can see arch gets paralyzed in the pocket at times when he wants to run but intentionally tries not to in order to appease Sark. Hence the 3 beyond the line of scrimmage passes this season. The answer is pretty glaring at this point: 10 and 11 personnel and simple spread concepts. 10P also gets bishop on the field who might be our most dynamic player on the roster.  Does sark have the humility to change the identity of his beloved pro style scheme? We’ll see. 

Edited 41 minutes ago by SpurHorn

[CJ Vogel]

By the way, it's unsustainable to run every single play out of 10 personnel, there has to be variations and different personnel packages. But that doesn't mean there can't be more of it.

 

Especially considered 12 personnel produced 50 yards on 17 snaps for a 2.94 average. Only one of those 17 snaps in 12P gained 7 or more yards. It went for 15 to Emmett Mosley V on the pass he juggled on the sidelines.

[Nikolas24]

8 minutes ago, SpurHorn said:

I thought we had some good runs out of 11 personnel with the TE flexed out. 10 personnel and simple spread concepts is the clear answer for arch and this offense. So much quicker and easier to diagnose pre snap. Find the leverage. Get the ball to the WR and let him make a play. Also 10 personnel will lighten up the boxes which can make arch’s legs even more lethal. Sark needs to abandon his philosophy of not wanting the QB to run as well and intentionally tell arch to run it whenever he wants to. You can see arch gets paralyzed in the pocket at times when he wants to run but intentionally tries not to in order to appease Sark. Hence the 3 beyond the line of scrimmage passes this season. The answer is pretty glaring at this point: 10 and 11 personnel and simple spread concepts. 10P also gets bishop on the field who might be our most dynamic player on the roster.  Does sark have the humility to change the identity of his beloved pro style scheme? We’ll see. 

I agree with you on all of that. Let’s see if sark takes that route this weekend. I’m hoping for it but not sure if he will. 

[Deej]

#LetArchCook

[FforFake]

There is too much talent in that room not to have them on the field more often.