bierce Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 We did have a play in the second half in which someone set a ball screen for Kaluma, and he hit a three. That is about as rudimentary as offense gets. That is also about as complex as our offense has been today. We have had two assists on lobs to players under the basket. And now a third on a pass to Onyema under the basket on a completely broken play. And now a fourth on a perimeter pass to Kaluma for a three. Hardly a play in which someone worked to create an open man, but hey, it was scored as an assist. Auburn has a great team, so I'm not surprised we are losing tonight, but we have no offense to speak of, unless the words being used are highly uncomplimentary. I don't expect Coach Terry will be coming back for 2025-26. I will nevertheless thank him for leaving a job as a head coach elsewhere, taking a demotion to come here, taking over when Beard s* the bed, and getting us to the Elite Eight for the first time in 14 years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornito Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Terry deserved his shot. But it’s not working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMarquette Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Oooooo boy, we are about to be the punching bag of the SEC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 10 minutes ago, Hornito said: Tre Johnson talking more to the coaches on the bench than playing the game. Didn’t finish the first half in the play, just watched. Now complaining to the coaches about why he’s getting beat on defense. I’m sure he’s frustrated, but it’s noticeable It's not the first time Johnson has gone off the rails. I couldn't believe he was named player of the tournament for that crapfest he had in Brooklyn. Yeah, he made ft down the stretch when we needed them, but we wouldn't have needed him if he hadn't shot 5/19 or whatever it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasFanatic Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Nate Oates 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NothinButDaHorns34 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 How did the ref miss that hook and hold right in front of his face? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Carter Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 This is so bad...we aren't a good team whatsoever. Some good players and a lot terrible execution, system, and coaching. Tough sell to come to UT for anyone with this product on the floor. We look lost, without purpose and that 100% is coaching, especially when you recruit YOUR team as a coach. Can't blame anyone else...lots of mid-majors are competitive in the tourney because of development and coaching. We seem to have neither... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, TexasFanatic said: Nate Oates Not happening. I mentioned him back in the day when we were first looking to replace Smart, but since then Oates defended his star player for taking a firearm to a former teammate who used it to commit murder. This s* actually matters to our administration, and good for it for thinking it matters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornito Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 It just looks like a bunch of individual pieces that don’t fit together. When it’s almost all transfers year to year there is not enough chemistry to trust guys to be certain places. If it’s gonna work you need excellent coaching or incredibly complementary guys that work extremely well together. Not saying the guys aren’t trying, I just don’t see them working together on offense. It was similar last year. What do Mark and Kent do? Onyema is a foul absorber. Larry looks like he should’ve stayed at a lower level. We need Kaluma, Johnson and Pope to figure out some 3 man game with Sherdrick getting putbacks. We don’t have a distributer who can chip in. We don’t have a strong man down low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Hornito said: It just looks like a bunch of individual pieces that don’t fit together. When it’s almost all transfers year to year there is not enough chemistry to trust guys to be certain places. If it’s gonna work you need excellent coaching or incredibly complementary guys that work extremely well together. Not saying the guys aren’t trying, I just don’t see them working together on offense. It was similar last year. What do Mark and Kent do? Onyema is a foul absorber. Larry looks like he should’ve stayed at a lower level. We need Kaluma, Johnson and Pope to figure out some 3 man game with Sherdrick getting putbacks. We don’t have a distributer who can chip in. We don’t have a strong man down low. Lack of a point guard is killing them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Hornito said: It just looks like a bunch of individual pieces that don’t fit together. When it’s almost all transfers year to year there is not enough chemistry to trust guys to be certain places. If it’s gonna work you need excellent coaching or incredibly complementary guys that work extremely well together. Not saying the guys aren’t trying, I just don’t see them working together on offense. It was similar last year. What do Mark and Kent do? Onyema is a foul absorber. Larry looks like he should’ve stayed at a lower level. We need Kaluma, Johnson and Pope to figure out some 3 man game with Sherdrick getting putbacks. We don’t have a distributer who can chip in. We don’t have a strong man down low. I think Larry is just having an extremely bad game. If anyone can help us become an integrated offense, it's him. He's the only guy we have who we can hope can beat his man on the perimeter, draw defenders, and find the open man. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 Shedrick with the Paul Silas-esque attempt at a reverse layup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasFanatic Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 17 minutes ago, bierce said: Not happening. I mentioned him back in the day when we were first looking to replace Smart, but since then Oates defended his star player for taking a firearm to a former teammate who used it to commit murder. This s* actually matters to our administration, and good for it for thinking it matters. Then who do you hire? Schloss has a past well known to Fort Worth people. We hired Jeff Banks. We hired Sark given his past. Past issues are a non issue for Texas as long as you do right while at Texasz Oates defended a player. I’m sure if more came out he would have not done so, but it didn’t. Who cares? People like you would also say Texas wouldn’t hire a guy like Scott Drew because he is too religious. By those standards, we can’t hire a guy who loves god or a guy who defended a player until proven guilty or not guilty. Winning matters. The University has an all time record of applicants this fall. That is due to winning. Texas can make money and benefit the university by making elite hires. Edited January 8 by TexasFanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornito Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, bierce said: I think Larry is just having an extremely bad game. If anyone can help us become an integrated offense, it's him. He's the only guy we have who we can hope can beat his man on the perimeter, draw defenders, and find the open man. I hope it’s just a bad game but I haven’t seen him do much this whole year. Tonight he’s driving and either forcing a shot or picking up his dribble and getting stuck. He doesn’t know where he’s outlets are going to be, and I don’t know if that’s his fault or if there is even a plan for guys to be in certain spots when he drives 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachBobbyFinstock Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Good thing we have Kaluma. Can’t believe some people didn’t want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 Johnson doing frustrated Johnson. At least Terry finally took him out for it. Now will he listen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 11 minutes ago, TexasFanatic said: Then who do you hire? Schloss has a past well known to Fort Worth people. We hired Jeff Banks. We hired Sark given his past. Past issues are a non issue for Texas as long as you do right while at Texasz Oates defended a player. I’m sure if more came out he would have not done so, but it didn’t. Who cares? People like you would also say Texas wouldn’t hire a guy like Scott Drew because he is too religious. By those standards, we can’t hire a guy who loves god or a guy who defended a player until proven guilty or not guilty. Winning matters. The University has an all time record of applicants this fall. That is due to winning. Texas can make money and benefit the university by making elite hires. Difference is that the Alabama situation involved the murder of somebody by someone that was on the team at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, bierce said: Johnson doing frustrated Johnson. At least Terry finally took him out for it. Now will he listen? Probably not. In his head he’s probably saying I am doing that because we have no point guard and no bigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasFanatic Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Jordan91 said: Difference is that the Alabama situation involved the murder of somebody by someone that was on the team at one point. Is Brandon Miller in jail? Did Oates murder someone? Did he do something inappropriate? He made a statement. He is an elite coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 12 minutes ago, CoachBobbyFinstock said: Good thing we have Kaluma. Can’t believe some people didn’t want him. The reasoning behind that is he’s a one on one player. However, he has turned out to be a pleasant surprise. He talks to players and works hard. You can’t expect him to score thirty every night though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan91 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, TexasFanatic said: Is Brandon Miller in jail? Did Oates murder someone? Did he do something inappropriate? He made a statement. He is an elite coach. The kid that did the murder was on the team. Not talking about Brandon Miller. Miller brought the gun. The shooter was on the team. Go back and take a look. I believe he was kicked off of the team before that happened, but I could be wrong about that. Again, the trigger man was on the roster at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasFanatic Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 The university is also making a crap ton of money right now with these playoffs. Texas is likely making 15ish million by just being in the playoffs. Texas will figure it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 5 minutes ago, TexasFanatic said: Then who do you hire? Schloss has a past well known to Fort Worth people. Oates defended a player. I’m sure if more came out he would have not done so, but it didn’t. Who cares? Winning matters. The University has an all time record of applicants this fall. That is due to winning. Texas can make money and benefit the university by making elite hires. You have a weird moral abacus there, dude. Sure, winning matters. So does not having your recruited players murder people and you current players take the murder weapon to the former teammate to commit the murder. Damn. The University will vet candidates and hire someone who a) has a very good record, b) has a manageable buyout (Oats doesn't btw), and c) doesn't have s* like this in his history. If this stuff didn't matter, then Beard would still be our coach. And recruiting someone who commits a murder and having one of your current players take the murder weapon to the murderer shortly before the murder is a really, really, really bad look. A much worse look than retaining a coach who was in a domestic dispute with a toxic mess who recanted her claim that he assaulted her. The University of Texas would disband the basketball program before it would hire Nate Oats. Who will we hire instead? I don't know. I haven't put much thought into it at this point, and things will probably change as the season goes on. Meanwhile, we're in a single digit game, and that was a pretty tough call of a flagrant one against Johnson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasFanatic Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Jordan91 said: The kid that did the murder was on the team. Not talking about Brandon Miller. Miller brought the gun. The shooter was on the team. Go back and take a look. I believe he was kicked off of the team before that happened, but I could be wrong about that. Again, the trigger man was on the roster at one point. There are always bad apples. You can probably go back and look at all great coaches past/teams. There is guaranteed to be blemishes. The kid on the team was a bad person. Oates did what he needed to do. Nothing he did was bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasFanatic Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 6 minutes ago, bierce said: You have a weird moral abacus there, dude. Sure, winning matters. So does not having your recruited players murder people and you current players take the murder weapon to the former teammate to commit the murder. Damn. The University will vet candidates and hire someone who a) has a very good record, b) has a manageable buyout (Oats doesn't btw), and c) doesn't have s* like this in his history. If this stuff didn't matter, then Beard would still be our coach. And recruiting someone who commits a murder and having one of your current players take the murder weapon to the murderer shortly before the murder is a really, really, really bad look. A much worse look than retaining a coach who was in a domestic dispute with a toxic mess who recanted her claim that he assaulted her. The University of Texas would disband the basketball program before it would hire Nate Oats. Who will we hire instead? I don't know. I haven't put much thought into it at this point, and things will probably change as the season goes on. Meanwhile, we're in a single digit game, and that was a pretty tough call of a flagrant one against Johnson. Was the kid a bad kid at the time of recruitment?? Likely not. That’s not on Oates. There is a lot more to this just saying… Well Oates recruited a kid who became a bad apple. Sark recruited that Keithron Lee kid while at Texas… he had an armed robbery im pretty sure. Is he bad? UT lets in kids to the University who end up doing bad things. Is the university bad? The Oates thing doesn’t seem to be a recurring issue so it’s a non issue. Money is not an issue right now. More money than ever is flowing in and the anthletic department is making 15 ish million off the playoffs right now. Edited January 8 by TexasFanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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