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  • Sunday: Squaring Expectations


    Bobby Burton

    We’ve hit on this subject multiple times, but I find it hard to believe the following:

    1. Texas will likely have no fewer than eight players picked in the 2024 NFL Draft.

    2. Even with that level of attrition, most national media types are suggesting the Longhorns should have as good or better season in 2024.

    Those things typically don’t square with one another.

    Heavy attrition, the kind Texas faces going into this season, means the team - any team - will take a step back.

    Yet folks don’t see it that way.

    So why is that the case?

    It’s about the offense more so than the defense.

    On offense:

    - Quinn Ewers returns for a third year starting.

    - The RB room should be fine. Texas blew out two of its last three opponents without Jonathon Brooks already.

    - Despite heavy losses at receiver and tight end, the Horns nabbed two starters from Alabama (Isaiah Bond and Amari Niblack), a starter and playmaker from Oregon State (Silas Bolden) and perhaps the country’s best kick returner from Houston (Matthew Golden).

    - The OL returns its stellar left tackle, only loses one starter, and has multiple younger players pushing to get into the lineup.

    But the defense…

    - The Horns must replace the strength of the D up the middle. Not just T’Vondre Sweat and Byron Murphy but also Jaylan Ford.

    - Yet the Horns should be better in both the secondary and at edge. And potential superstar linebacker Anthony Hill is a year older.

    I don’t know exactly how I feel yet about Texas being ranked so highly this far away from the start of football season.

    I want to see more from spring ball before I jump out there with Texas being a top 5 team in 2024.

    Is it possible they are? Yes, absolutely.

    But let’s see if they mix together like last year’s squad first.

    “Culture” was a big word for 2023. In my opinion, it needs to be in 2024 as well.

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    I agree with almost everything. 
     

    I also think all the top projected teams have lost key players as well so it evens the playing field. 
     

    UGA is in best shape but loses Bowers.  Two WRs and some OL. 
     

    Michigan loses almost everything.

     

    Ohio St in good shape with their additions I just don't trust Will Howard in a big game. Too many turnovers. 
     

    so let's gooooo why not us. Plus I have QE to win the Heisman at +850

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    I think it was Gerry who said we could actually be better than last year but have a worse record  and I agree. I’m thinking we should be good enough to get playoff invite and then make a run. Quinn’s play will be crucial in those games. Gotta hope the new DL and LB coach get the most out of their groups. 

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    As long as the culture progresses forward so too will the success of the team under sark. Quinn needs to take that next step as the overall leader of this team. This is his 3rd year and there shouldn’t be any questions as to who’s team this is. He needs to grab that by the throat and not let up from here on out. I liked hearing that ant hill has stepped into a leadership role on defense. Between him and jahdae Barron I think the defense will take a few games to get things to click, but as the season moves along the overall defense should be fine. I just hope they find it and find it fast. 
     

    I thought 10 wins and a B12 title should’ve been the expectation last year and they did that and then some. I think 9-10 wins this year and finishing in the top 3 of the SEC and a playoff appearance is well attainable. We don’t live in a world anymore where 1-2 or even 3 losses will keep you from reaching your ultimate goal at the end of the season which of course is a national title 

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    Texas hasn't recruited and developed consistently well in a long time. Losing a good chunk of talent to the Draft and not missing a beat should feel weird at first but that's where Sark seemingly has us.

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    2 minutes ago, Bobby Burton said:

    You’re right about other teams. Who else looks good in that regard?

    Gotta throw ole miss in there. At least for the time being. Kiffin has killed it in the portal and while losing judkins hurts, they still should figure to be a 10 win team.

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    2 minutes ago, Bobby Burton said:

    You’re right about other teams. Who else looks good in that regard?

    I would assume Oregon is in good shape, especially with their 34 year old veteran QB.

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    3 minutes ago, Bobby Burton said:

    You’re right about other teams. Who else looks good in that regard?

    LSU loses Daniels and has to fix the defense.

    ole Miss has a ton of quality additions just don't trust the continuity yet

     

    oregon shoukd be better imo. 

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    It's probably about 2 things. 

    -3rd year starter 4th year Heisman candidate QB

    -Everyone else except Georgia, Oregon, and Ole Miss look down. 

    Just the playoff teams you have Alabama, Washington, and Michigan starting from scratch losing a ton of starters, the HC, and the QB. That's big. 

    Plus many teams are able to win big and even win it all with solid but not top 3 round in the draft DTs. Especially if they are really good in the back end and at edge. 

    Not a lot of great looking QBs coming back after this very deep and quality QB class in the 2024 draft. 

    That's gotta be the main reason Ewers decided to stay another year. 

     

    Lots of reasons Texas looks like a quality buy in 24.

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    I'm expecting a run that mirrors the first decade this century. OL & QB should be better this year. WR is unexperienced but talentwise is equal to last year. At TE don't sell Helm short. Niblack is a great addition as well. DL and Mike is where the hit comes. You just don't replace three draft picks right in the middle of your defense in one year. Edge should be better. The return of Jahdae Barron is just as big as that of Ewers. Mukuba is definitely a step up. There are some young studs coming in on defense. Simmons, Black, Filsaime and Mack will all play next year. 

     

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    I think Texas will be good on offense next season but will experience some learning curves on both sides of the ball. Even though experience exists with the receivers there’s little chemistry between them and Quinn. That, in my opinion will need to happen before they can come out hitting on all cylinders. Defense is similar with new faces but hopefully can pull it together by the time conference starts. 
     

    I think they have a tougher schedule than last year too. Michigan, OU, Kentucky, Georgia, Florida, Arkansas and ATM could all be tough games. 

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    I agree.  Looking at Texas team last year most believed the running game would be down due to Robinson and Johnson drafted.  It was thought DL would be good even with losing 2 players to the draft.  In fact Sweat and Murphy probably exceeded expectations from most.

    This does show Texas is developing players and getting players drafted.  The key is will Baker and Nansen continue to developed players.  That is the question.  
     

    Portal has changed everything with being able to plug and play.  In the past grad transfer or JUCO was the model.  But you still need coaching and team chemistry.

    Also keep in mind all the teams moving to different conferences in 2024.  Teams expected to do well may be underwhelming.  There is also going to be a few surprise teams as well. 
     

    Georgia may have the best overall talent but they will lose key players to the draft.  Ohio State and Ole Miss have been more aggressive in the Portal to win now but not guaranteed they will. Oregon moves to Big 10 that will be interesting to see how they adjust to new conference.  For Texas, Arkansas and A&M will be more than ready to play.

    I think 9-3  would be great for moving to the SEC, losing 8 players to the draft and adding to new coaches.  I also think Texas could have 8 potential draft picks on the 2024 roster as well

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    3 minutes ago, Baron said:

    I'm expecting a run that mirrors the first decade this century. OL & QB should be better this year. WR is unexperienced but talentwise is equal to last year. At TE don't sell Helm short. Niblack is a great addition as well. DL and Mike is where the hit comes. You just don't replace three draft picks right in the middle of your defense in one year. Edge should be better. The return of Jahdae Barron is just as big as that of Ewers. Mukuba is definitely a step up. There are some young studs coming in on defense. Simmons, Black, Filsaime and Mack will all play next year. 

     

    Agree 💯

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    I also think Sark needs to go back and read the number one golden rule of football, and that is if they can't stop you (running the ball) keep doing it till they do. Sark sometimes over thinks play calling. The opposite can be said in the red zone, maybe open up the play book a bit more. 

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    24 minutes ago, Jerry K said:

    I think Texas will be good on offense next season but will experience some learning curves on both sides of the ball. Even though experience exists with the receivers there’s little chemistry between them and Quinn. 

    Quinn needs to be almost living with those 4-5 dudes this off-season. Rep after rep going through every conceivable pre snap read and dynamic. The speed requires the right timing and cohesion to become as destructive to DBs as this much speed and talent can be. 

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    As of right now I don’t think Texas is a playoff team, unless the offense is elite. The offense should be playoff worthy, but I have my doubts on defense. Texas was able to run light boxes all year and stop the run. I highly doubt that will be the case in 2024. I don’t see those run stuffing DTs on the roster.  A big key to the defensive improvement we have seen over the last 3 years was the ability to run 3-4 NFL DTs at an offense. Secondary will be better, but they will be asked to do more. Last year the run stopping ability made Catalon unnecessary. I would expect the safeties will be a vital part of stopping the run and that will add to their plate 

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    Shocked to learn Mack never had more than 7 players drafted in a single year and it only happened twice. Sark will have at least 8 drafted in his third year only 1 of which that came from the transfer portal. It seems that future years will be similar. Is Sark a better developer than Mack’s teams were? I think he might be.

     

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    Texas should be good enough to make the 12 team playoffs if:

    - Ewers evolves

    - the receivers gel and excel as we hope 

    - the secondary improves as we expect (hope)

    - the edges make up for the big loss in the middle

    That’s a lot of ifs, but the portal appears to have been fruitful in filling the major holes. This is a matter of reloading, it seems. 

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    18 minutes ago, codaxx said:

    As of right now I don’t think Texas is a playoff team, unless the offense is elite. The offense should be playoff worthy, but I have my doubts on defense. Texas was able to run light boxes all year and stop the run. I highly doubt that will be the case in 2024. I don’t see those run stuffing DTs on the roster.  A big key to the defensive improvement we have seen over the last 3 years was the ability to run 3-4 NFL DTs at an offense. Secondary will be better, but they will be asked to do more. Last year the run stopping ability made Catalon unnecessary. I would expect the safeties will be a vital part of stopping the run and that will add to their plate 

    I meant top 4, not playoffs. Forgot 12 team playoff is here for 24

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    Defensive tackle is really the only question mark. Every other spot has a reasonable answer. 
     

    IMO Texas is a decent portal addition at that position to being locked and loaded again. 
     

    Texas will be strong just different. Positions that were viewed as a possible weakness will become a viable strength like defensive back and rush end. 
     

    Texas has two major components that are as good as anybody at QB and Oline. That’s two huge pieces.

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    Just wanted to stop by to say this will be my go to Texas football site. Whenever yall decide to make that subscriber leap I’m there. Y’all will not be touched with the YouTube and forum content combined. So glad we got the dream team back together! 

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    3 hours ago, Bobby Burton said:

    You’re right about other teams. Who else looks good in that regard?

    With Dillon G in his 6th year, if they can make the adjustment to the B10, add Oregon to the list. 

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    Texas 2025 NFL draft picks ...

    QB Quinn Ewers

    LT Kelvin Banks

    WR Isaiah Bond

    TE Amari Niblack

    N/DB Jahdae Barron

    S Andrew Mukuba 

    DL Alfred Collins

    That's being conservative ...

    Essentially have Power 5 starting experience in 2024 at ...

    QB Quinn Ewers

    RB CJ Baxter

    WR Isaiah Bond

    WR Matthew Golden

    WR Silas Bolden

    LT Kelvin Banks

    LG Hayden Conner/Cole Hutson

    C Jake Majors

    RG DJ Campbell (will make big jump in year two starting)

    *RT Cam Williams )Only one career start)

    DL Alfred Collins

    DL Tiaoalii Savea 

    DE/EDGE Ethan Burke

    DE/EDGE Barryn Sorrell

    LB Anthony Hill

    N Jahdae Barron

    S Andrew Mukuba

    S Derek Williams/Michael Taffee

    CB Malik Muhammad

    CB Terrance Brooks 

    K Bert Auburn 

     

    That dog WILL HUNT!

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    I expect to improve every year till we break through and win it all - starting to feel good about Texas Football again and also ready to be hurt again…dammmit 

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