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Any DL that gets called for holding has a special place on my list

Marcus Tubbs never gets any recognition. He was more than solid.

All are good choices. But since all the DT drafted lately were Oscar Giles' recruits, he gets my vote. Bo Davis talked good and coached well enough, but Baker is a definite upgrade.

Correct. Think Saban turned down a job only because the predecessor was being difficult about leaving?

Oscar Giles was 95 when I was in school. Yes, the one in the black and white photo. Interestingly, no current player on the roster is wearing 95.

So 2-7 rocks? Cool…

Another more recent one… Alfred Collins

We are exactly 95 days away from Texas taking on Ohio State. Who was your favorite Horn to wear No. 95? Here are a few choices… Poona Ford Marcus Tubbs Oscar Giles

Gerry has debunked some of it. Gerry says he doesn’t think Saban would have followed through and actually gone to Texas.

Very fair. He got paid for the job and slings and arrows are part of it.

Goober boys talking about salary caps and NIL spending make me wonder how they graduated from high school. Maybe they didn't. Can't have a cap on salary without an agreement between employers and employees. Given that the NCAA won't recognize players as employees, they can't legally "cap" anything. All the legal stuff cites "anti-trust" law. Now, truth is the Constitution doesn't ban trusts or monopolies. That's socialist nonsense federal legislation from the late nineteenth to early twentieth century. But that's what have as far as the federal courts are concerned. "Power Conferences" can't enforce this nonsense no matter what they do. Won't be a "member institution" that sues them; it'll be a player that sues them. Furthermore, even with collective bargaining, you can't stop a company from paying someone that represents them. Pro leagues have collective bargaining. Is there a cap on marketing deals? Did anyone ever take Michael Jordan to court over make hundreds of millions over his deals with Nike? I don't know who they think they're fooling.

I think a lot us are ambivalent about Mack. He won a title, and he was a great recruiter. He should have won several titles, and he should have beaten Stoops far more often. Belichick is doing more than enough to make a fool of himself in his dotage. Mack should remain silent on that.

Without Vince, Mack is fired. See how stupid it sounds?

The Saban stuff is a message board legend, hasn't @Gerry Hamilton said as much? "I knew a guy that worked in mortgages in 2013 that knew a tile sub-contractor that was dating Saban's wife's realtor's pool guy that said...."

The statement should read, over the course of 29 years as a HC, Belichick has had two winning seasons during which Tom Brady was not his QB. And zero division championships or playoff wins.

The only thing wrong with my statement is syntax. Apologies. The point stands- without Brady, Belichick has been an average to below average head coach. Brady won without Belichick, Belichick did not win anything significant without Brady. Andy Reid is far and away the more accomplished HC in my eyes compared to Belichick.

Bias much? Belichick was not a head coach for 29 years without Tom Brady. That's a bullshit statement. Belichick was only a NFL head coach for a TOTAL of 29 years, and 20 of them were with the Patriots coming while Tom Brady was also there. So, Belichick and Brady were together for 20 of Belichick's 29 years as a head coach. He had a winning record in 2 of the remaining seasons (1-4 with the Browns and 1-3 with the Patriots). Not good, but not the incorrect BS you wrote.

Note: as a HC, Belichick never won one playoff game or even a division championship without Brady as his starting QB. 2 winning seasons in 29 years without Brady.

Nailed it. Mack has his warts, but Nattys are hard to come by and he got us one.

Difference there is that OJ is a murderer and Mack Brown is a very good man by literally every account of people who actually know him, including hundreds to thousands of players.

To be honest with you, the 2014 team was not devoid of talent in the least. On offense: David Ash, Swoopes and Heard wasn’t a bad QB room before Ash’s injury. Malcolm Brown, Jonathan Gray and Joe Bergeron was one of our best RB rooms until recently (before Strong kicked JB off the team). Jaxon Shipley, John Harris and Marcus Johnson wasn’t a bad WR corps and Geoff Swaim is still a NFL TE. On defense, we had longterm NFL guys at every level: Malcom Brown, Hassan Ridgeway, Jordan Hicks, Quandre Diggs, Mykelle Thompson.