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Yeah, 100%. Can't argue with that.

My brain says Vasher too. My heart says Quinn so I’m rolling with Quinn

That's all I'm saying is Downs is great at what OSU asks him to do as Taafe is great at we ask him to do.

Look, Taafe is an elite safety. He's an All-American for a reason and is starting for the #1 ranked team in the country. It's like deciding between Jeremiah Smith and Ryan Wingo. You can't go wrong either way. Both elite.

- I don't care if he was injured, Ohio State was playing with their second string OL - What play call? The play call that allowed Ohio State to throw a 75 yard screen pass with no defense in the way.

Sark is a great coach too.

My brain says Nathan Vasher. My heart says Jordan Hicks, Shon Mitchell or Hodges Mitchell.

He's the best.

2-2 in the series and this feels like a rivalry that’s been going on for the history of college football. Either way someone’s getting 3-2 scoreboard Saturday.

They’d probably get them both on the field.

Yes, the injured guy at RT. Horrible play call? What did we call? Point being, the two most impactful plays of the game leading to your victory were score with limited oline impact.

Let me ask if you were a Texas fan and had to cover Ohio State’s recievers with a light box which safety would you want? Of course Sark would choose a 5 star over a preferred walk on. If he didn't that'd be a fireable offense no? But he wouldn't be playing safety, he'd be playing Star.

It’s fascinating to me that you think OSU is somehow unique in its development of elite RBs. Sark has had Bijan, Roschon, Jonathan Brooks, Jaydon Blue in his system at Texas. Before that he’s had Najee Harris, Brian Robinson, Bishop Sankey, and Chris Polk. He’s had a 1000 yard back every single season as a HC. Before that he had Reggie Bush and Lendale White in his system. To just assume that OSU is somehow going to roll out unproven running backs who are going to outperform what Sark is bringing to the table is utterly fanciful.

Yeah, Burke was just limited in what he could do. He was never a legit NFL prospect. Moving forward it will be all of Tim Walton's recruits, so it'll mirror the WR room in 5* after 5*

The Big 10 is much more like the NFL in the offenses they see

He might be a better eraser, but Sark and your DC would pick Downs over him to play the same position.

Have never been high on Burke. I Like Matthews and would really like to see what Scott can do. Anyway I am ok with a 5 Star backing up a 5 star, it does give me confidence in our corners.

Welcome to Big 10 where 4 wides is not a thing.

The strip sack was just Sawyer absolutely obliterating your RT. The Henderson screen was horrible defensive play call by whoever is calling your plays.

I'm telling you if that's what you expect from a safety Taafe does more with less. He covers everything in our scheme from backs, TEs, slots, blitzing, and covers the run. Taafe plays both high and low and does it as well as any safety in the nation. I'm not saying Taafe is a better football player by any stretch, but I am saying he's a better eraser.

Agreed on the first sentence. But dominating is another level of discussion. It looks like you broke off some long runs in those but otherwise pedestrian. The question would arise as to whether a broken tackle happened to create those. Pff is looking at every player on every play. Who won, who lost individual battles. In theory your Oline can do poorly yet you score. But congrats on your Oline for that Sawyer strip sack. I guess they did ok on that Henderson screen.

1. Knowles liked us playing press man and Downs roamed high at FS and helped on ball.. 2. The score was 34-8 at half did not need to put a safety over Stewart. or anyone.

Downs is a safety, so I would never expect him to do anything other than helping over the top, or covering RB's and TE's. Denzel Burke was burned by Steward, but luckily Burke has graduated and Jermaine Matthews Jr & Davison Igbinosun are the top two cornerbacks.

I'm not saying that they're wrong, and nobody is talking about Taafe because of his lack of athleticism. Downs is good at playing free and around the ball, but Taafe is an eraser. I don't know how many times a reciever beat a corner and the only person back there to erase that mistake was Taafe. If Downs was that kind of eraser, why didn't they put Downs over Evan Stewart in the first game against Oregon is all I'm saying. It was obvious Ohio State couldn't cover him.

Going with a fellow East Texas on this one. Nathan Vasher.