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Neither was Meyer, but he won.

Yes, the old “everyone cheats, except us” routine. In that case Herman couldn’t do what Mack was able to despite being a marginal upgrade over Strong.

Eh former Mizzou Tiger Chase Daniel did that too

The news that trickled out earlier this week proved accurate. Coaching carousel is going to be a wild ride.

A year closer to his pension.

Quinn isn’t near the player Colt was. Take off the brunt orange glasses

Let’s be perfectly frank, Herman was a fraud and really not a great person.

Herman dealt with several teams paying illegally out of pocket. Sark is definitely in the top 10 schools for spending. He has zero reason to ever have this type of regression.

Colt McCoy has made quite a living doing just that.

Would love to see Napier brought in as an offensive consultant.

Yep! A lot of people avoiding eating their crow with the “bench quinn for arch” crap last year.

Who had NIL money during the Herman era?

I’m not defending Herman for those exact reasons. I’m talking about the assertion that no one else had funds available to them. Many did.

Herman lost too many games he shouldn’t have, while losing virtually all he was expected to. The fact he often made those games more competitive than expected was a bit of a plus.

Again, nobody’s defending Herman, he had plenty of flaws. Saying Herman “never sniffed the playoffs” without context is not just incomplete, it’s ignorance. The playoff system during Herman’s era only included four teams, and the roster rules were strict, no NIL, no transfer portal, no plug and play experienced replacements. Sark, on the other hand, has had every modern advantage Herman didn’t….NIL, the transfer portal, and the ability to overhaul a roster instantly. Even using Herman era metrics, Sark would have made the playoff only once in five seasons, and remove the portal advantage and the odds drop substantially. Put simply: having all the modern advantages doesn’t excuse the flaws we still see on the field, especially offensively in year 5 against bottom tier teams like Florida and Kentucky.

Backup QB on a terrible team is nothing to be proud about

You honestly believe Oh St, Georgia, Bama, Mich, Oregon, Penn St, aggy, et al, aren’t playing in the same space? Penn St just paid a guy $50 million not to coach, aggy has about that much left to pat. They got the money.

Not sure how they haven’t turned to Quinn yet honestly.

When a high profile P4 team pulls the trigger early others will be playing catch up.

You honestly believe we spend the same amount on NIL as everyone else??? Don’t think all of the offensive players are coming just to play on Sark’s very imaginative offense!

1-4 vs OU as well.

So Herman only had what every other program had. Just like Sark today. Gotcha.

Herman couldn’t beat TCU, Oklahoma State or Iowa State. What type of playing field were we on compared to them?

Come on man. Georgia signed 18 five stars between the three 2018-2020 classes. You don’t think they had a major payroll for that team? He learned the whole scheme from Saban. Urban Mafia at Ohio State, LSU church slush funds, we have never been on an even playing field with the most rogue programs except for maybe 2002-2004 when Mack and the program got especially desperate while getting pants’d in Dallas annually. And look what happened the next few years.

I think Arch is shook by the jailbreak he experiences damn near every time he drops back. IMO, Sark has failed him by putting a ragtag bunch of OLinemen in front of him. Quinn would have been sacked 30 times already by this oline.