Rhenk6768 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 8 minutes ago, Bonaparte said: I still don’t understand why Sark didn’t keep Bo Davis. Huge mistake It wasn’t up to sark. LSU made an offer and Bo wanted to go back to Louisiana because of his son. Sark offered him a lot of money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhenk6768 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 1 hour ago, goattalk100 said: Oof. Kenny Baker gonna have his work cut out for him in gaining some momentum back into the season & later in the cycle. Will also have to tangibly show good results & development from the d line, which in turn will help with recruiting. I’m feeling great at the moment with DT recruiting but I do believe it will turn around in time. A season with solid play by our defensive line and a full recruiting cycle for Baker will solve a lot of our problems. Of course the caveat here is the solid play by our defensive line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillCountryBevo Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) They need bodies , regardless if it’s a walk on or a low 3 star at the point. Mods, will they circle back on Floyd Guidry or the kid from guyer or is it too late? Edited July 2 by HillCountryBevo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Two Times Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 What on earth is the plan at DL? This has been an utterly disastrous three cycles, completely unacceptable. Genuinely wonder who will be playing in 2025 and if we will have any depth at all. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHorn23 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 2 hours ago, CJ Vogel said: They have 20 commits in the cycle currently, only 3-4 are guys I look at wishing Texas had pursued harder. Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHorn23 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 2 hours ago, 512Horn said: DT was the biggest need in this class and it isn't particularly close. We decided to bring in the following for OV's: - Myron Charles (FSU Commit) - Josiah Sharma (Oregon Commit) -Kevin Wynn (FSU Commit) -Brandon Brown (We'll see) - DJ Sanders (Texas lean, but a guy you hope can contribute 2-3 years down the road) - Zion Williams (Weren't able to even get in for an OV - LSU) How does that happen to the biggest need position at a school like Texas with all of it's resources? Why were there not more prospects brought in? You can't get outbid for these guys if you're plan was to bring in 5 guys for OV's at DT when the need is as drastic as it is for Texas. We have signed the following DT's out of high school in the '23 & '24 classes: - Sydir Mitchell - Melvin Hills - Alex January OOS guys. That's why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Schrader Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 I can see why people are a little concerned, but we need to let it play out. Sark is a winner, not a whiner. Still a long ways from December. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHorn23 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 1 hour ago, Rhenk6768 said: I seriously do not understand why so many people are putting this on Kenny baker. He’s trying to persuade guys that have been building relationships with coaches for years when he’s been at Texas for a few months. If you expect him to just be able to swoop in and win all of these recruitments with very little time then your expectations are unrealistic and you do not have a grasp of how recruiting high school kids works. Give the guy a full season and recruiting cycle and then evaluate. Saying he can’t recruit at this level at this point in his tenure at Texas is just absurd Finally, someone with sense. Hard to believe that their are so many recruiting gurus on here that understand recruiting 🤔 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NothinButDaHorns34 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 We’ve gone from saying “top 5 class” to not even knowing if we’ll make the top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashtag Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Steven Schrader said: I can see why people are a little concerned, but we need to let it play out. Sark is a winner, not a whiner. Still a long ways from December. We’re about to be 0-4 on our top 4 prospects at the position with the lone guy committed who at best should be the 3rd-4th DT in a class. Especially when we’ve ignored in state recruits. Absolute oversight and failure by Sark and Co to not invest more NIL into the position to help the new DL coach with no skins on wall. Edited July 2 by Hashtag 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhenk6768 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 17 minutes ago, AceHorn23 said: Finally, someone with sense. Hard to believe that their are so many recruiting gurus on here that understand recruiting 🤔 Maybe sark can hire them and they can show sark and staff how to really recruit 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhenk6768 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NothinButDaHorns34 said: We’ve gone from saying “top 5 class” to not even knowing if we’ll make the top 10. Not true in the slightest. Gerry said just this morning that we’ll most likely have a top 5 class. The question is will we fill our needs? Two things can be true at once Edited July 2 by Rhenk6768 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheContractor12 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 3 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said: If it’s Texas … that will be Brandon going out on his own totally LSU has very legit shot. That remains the favorite for at least one person in the circle Oklahoma has a shot. Understand the relationship with Bo, makes sense. 0u makes no sense. They didn’t believe in him until way after the Texas staff did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 The market rate for impact DTs is the market rate. It appears we are not meeting that threshold, and even when we do, we are not "going above and beyond" to land OOS guys. The one guy in Texas that is an "SEC-body" is Zion Williams... and we haven't even gotten him to OV! How in the world does that happen? We *cannot* rely on the portal for DTs long term.... Sarks message about recruiting the big bodies for the trenches is ringing completely hollow on one side of the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cochamps Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 5 minutes ago, Ryan said: The market rate for impact DTs is the market rate. It appears we are not meeting that threshold, and even when we do, we are not "going above and beyond" to land OOS guys. The one guy in Texas that is an "SEC-body" is Zion Williams... and we haven't even gotten him to OV! How in the world does that happen? We *cannot* rely on the portal for DTs long term.... Sarks message about recruiting the big bodies for the trenches is ringing completely hollow on one side of the ball. His GF is at LSU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos21 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) Feels like when hiring a position coach players value coaches who PUT players in the NFL more than coaches that have been assistants in the NFL. I think Sark took a flyer for DL coach...and it's not paying off right now. Needs a splash hire from a splash program...in this day and age, headlines matter, buzz, etc...not necessarily logic. Edited July 2 by Brazos21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasLonghorns Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rhenk6768 said: I’m suggesting that he has a lot of factors to overcome to win these guys and a short amount of time to do it. Pretty sure I made it clear in my original post. He was put in this position because Bo left the way he did He was put in the position because Sark hired him, it’s his job to meet the expectations of the job he accepted, what are the expectations? One would assume landing a few of the five DTs that visited. I’d love to suggest the reason I’m not meeting expectations or goals in my role are due to the previous person who held my job and “the way they left”. Edited July 2 by TexasLonghorns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass Joe Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 14 minutes ago, TheContractor12 said: Understand the relationship with Bo, makes sense. 0u makes no sense. They didn’t believe in him until way after the Texas staff did. So what does that tell you about Brown’s decision making criteria? And about who is making the decisions for him? If the kid schedules an OV to a school the week of the visit, and hadn’t even had OU in his top 5 before that, what do you think motivated this OV to Oklahoma? I don’t think it is a coincidence that Brown and mom schedule an OV to the school that just won a very public DT recruitment / NIL auction just a few weeks before (Damonic Williams). It would suggest to me that Brown’s circle is fully aware of which schools are most motivated $$ to obtain elite DT talent. And that also informs me of who and how the final decision is likely to be influenced. Now that all the bids are now in, the circle will make the decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDI Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Put me on the it's too early to blame Kenny Baker train, but I do think we really should have brought in more than 5 guys for official visits and maybe gone harder after Williams. Just seems like there was no plan B for missing out on players. Baker needs to have that D'line playing really good football this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Schrader Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 48 minutes ago, Hashtag said: We’re about to be 0-4 on our top 4 prospects at the position with the lone guy committed who at best should be the 3rd-4th DT in a class. Especially when we’ve ignored in state recruits. Absolute oversight and failure by Sark and Co to not invest more NIL into the position to help the new DL coach with no skins on wall. Did you want Flood fired in November of 2021? Asking for Negative Nancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashtag Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 1 minute ago, Steven Schrader said: Did you want Flood fired in November of 2021? Asking for Negative Nancy. That comparison is irrelevant as I am not blaming baker at all in this instance but rather his boss who is refusing to spend the money necessary at the position that requires top NIL dollars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayden Haywood Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 i think LSU has bad year. flips will come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrong Link Gerry Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 56 minutes ago, NothinButDaHorns34 said: We’ve gone from saying “top 5 class” to not even knowing if we’ll make the top 10. Not true. Maybe you have. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Lovell Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 14 minutes ago, GDI said: Put me on the it's too early to blame Kenny Baker train, but I do think we really should have brought in more than 5 guys for official visits and maybe gone harder after Williams. Just seems like there was no plan B for missing out on players. Baker needs to have that D'line playing really good football this year. Plan b could be the portal and of course we wouldn’t know until season ends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDI Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 2 minutes ago, Daniel Lovell said: Plan b could be the portal and of course we wouldn’t know until season ends You're right, and I think we will come out with something, but plan A wasn't very well thought out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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