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1 hour ago, BobInHouston said:

Jeff seems to believe that Texas will make the money machine go BRRRRRR and affect every other decision in the cycle.

We, on the other hand, know better.

Well ESPN mentions that Mark great defense at least once a game. Jon Rothstein said Weaver was playing last game, despite the injury report saying he was out. Add to that the moron on X that said Texas has a high NIL. The people that actually follow Texas basketball absolutely know better. Guys keep thinking Basketball is Football. 

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2 hours ago, bierce said:

Silliness to think we would cause some avalanche of movement in P5 schools by firing Terry.  We would affect at most one other P5 school.  Even if we steal a Miller or Otzelberger from Xavier or ISU, it isn't like they would poach from a third P5 school.  They'd probably have the smarts to hire Wade, McCollum, Pitino, Murray, or some other up and comer and wind up doing very well for themselves. 

I think Saban resigning set off a tidal wave. It could happen. But again, that would mean that Texas hired one of the most famous coaches in America. Not planning on that.

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1 hour ago, BobInHouston said:

I think Saban resigning set off a tidal wave. It could happen. But again, that would mean that Texas hired one of the most famous coaches in America. Not planning on that.

Three P4 hires there because Bama poached from UDub who poached from Arizona.

But I don't think we'll be poaching from an SEC or Big Ten program with huge money to turn around and poach a P5 coach, and with the greater number of basketball programs, there is always a bigger pool of rising coaches. 

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2 hours ago, BobInHouston said:

I think Saban resigning set off a tidal wave. It could happen. But again, that would mean that Texas hired one of the most famous coaches in America. Not planning on that.

 

1 hour ago, bierce said:

Three P4 hires there because Bama poached from UDub who poached from Arizona.

But I don't think we'll be poaching from an SEC or Big Ten program with huge money to turn around and poach a P5 coach, and with the greater number of basketball programs, there is always a bigger pool of rising coaches. 

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2 minutes ago, tylerlindsey2111 said:

Why do you think Otz would come here?

I don't know if he would but that low of a buyout definitely puts him in the category of attainable vs a coach who has 10+ million buyout to leave another job. 

 

But with revenue sharing coming and Texas being able to offer max revenue sharing and allotting 3-4 million for basketball plus corporate NIL of Austin, and Texas One Fund added deals there is definitely a lot of room to grow in Austin vs Ames and Texas brand vs Iowa St brand. It's not as simple as some of you make in regards to strictly NIL which is coming from TOF or corporate right now. 

 

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4 minutes ago, tylerlindsey2111 said:

No, I am not using NIL. I am saying why would he come here? He's King in Ames. They're good every year. He can pretty much be on the short list for any BB first jobs, such as Indiana.

If you were a football coach and had to decide on a job between say Alabama and Texas in the current landscape of college athletics which are you taking? Alabama(Indiana) has more tradition than Texas(basketball). I could see quite a few reasons why he would choose Texas/Austin over staying at Iowa St or Indiana job from a business and growth standpoint. Easier to recruit talent to Austin vs Bloomington. If he wins in Austin his NIL war chest grows as well.

 

I'd imagine we are going to pay the next basketball coach 5.5-7 million range per year to get a good one as CDC doesn't want to mess this hire up as revenue sharing comes into play. His salary plus bonuses put him making about 4 million. If we offer the 6-7 million range I definitely think he's attainable. 

 

 

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Some notes ...

Jai Lucas is a done deal to Miami. Will be announced in time ... will he take Shelton Henderson with him? Very likely. What about the Boozer twins deciding to stay home? We shall see. And which former HC will be his associate HC? Someone will be

Beard doing everything he can to try and get Indiana. Still hearing Scott Drew is ahead. 

I expect to keep hearing Quin Snyder associated with Texas rumors, or when the job comes open. He loves Austin, house a house in Austin, etc... but that doesn't mean he would leave 8mill a year in the NBA. 

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Golding has one thing on his resume that Terry doesn't, and that is building a program from D II and getting it into the tournament 2 of 3 years, maybe 3 straight were it not for the 2020 tournament being canceled, but I don't think it was getting past SFA in 2020.  He did quite the excellent job at ACU.

However, Golding's biggest drawback has been the zero improvement in the UTEP program over a four year period.  At 49 years old and having made no progress with a mid-major nowhere for 4 years, he should be miles behind Wade, Murray, McCollum, Pitino, and even Olen and Odom, as a candidate to move up from the mid-majors or an assistant's job this spring. 

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48 minutes ago, bierce said:

Golding has one thing on his resume that Terry doesn't, and that is building a program from D II and getting it into the tournament 2 of 3 years, maybe 3 straight were it not for the 2020 tournament being canceled, but I don't think it was getting past SFA in 2020.  He did quite the excellent job at ACU.

However, Golding's biggest drawback has been the zero improvement in the UTEP program over a four year period.  At 49 years old and having made no progress with a mid-major nowhere for 4 years, he should be miles behind Wade, Murray, McCollum, Pitino, and even Olen and Odom, as a candidate to move up from the mid-majors or an assistant's job this spring. 

Golding is sub .500 in conference at UTEP and barely above .500 at ACU(.511)

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3 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Some notes ...

Jai Lucas is a done deal to Miami. Will be announced in time ... will he take Shelton Henderson with him? Very likely. What about the Boozer twins deciding to stay home? We shall see. And which former HC will be his associate HC? Someone will be

Beard doing everything he can to try and get Indiana. Still hearing Scott Drew is ahead. 

I expect to keep hearing Quin Snyder associated with Texas rumors, or when the job comes open. He loves Austin, house a house in Austin, etc... but that doesn't mean he would leave 8mill a year in the NBA. 

Snyder would be an outta this world home run hire. That would represent a commitment to hoops Texas has never made.

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1 minute ago, tylerlindsey2111 said:

Snyder would be an outta this world home run hire. That would represent a commitment to hoops Texas has never made.

A near 60 year old that hasn't coached college in nearly 20 years.....

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1 minute ago, tylerlindsey2111 said:

Okay, you are right. Imbecile, not worthy or deserving.

Are those not things to consider when paying premium dollar for your next HC? If we're going to be on message boards discussing pros and cons of every candidate as you have done as well those two things are definitely worth noting. 

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21 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

Are those not things to consider when paying premium dollar for your next HC? If we're going to be on message boards discussing pros and cons of every candidate as you have done as well those two things are definitely worth noting. 

How many guys bring up Billy Donovan, like he's going to come back to college when the basketball world knows he hates recruiting and wants to be in the NBA? (Answer: Too many.)

Anyone who is thinking about coming back to college, regardless of his situation, after a decade as a HC in the NBA, has experience that most candidates don't.

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Dude is considered an elite x&o guy at all levels of basketball, has the NBA credibility that allows him to sell himself to elite player (which we need desperately in this era, along with NIL), has cache among possible assistants to get the guys doing a lot of the day to day, and will coach for 8-10 years. I don't think you could ask for much more.

 

I think less than 3% chance he would leave the NBA.

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