bierce Posted February 6 Posted February 6 2 minutes ago, BobInHouston said: This is my concern. Recruiting is an entirely different animal at high D-I. Is why I said "gamble." Quote
BobInHouston Posted February 6 Posted February 6 4 minutes ago, bierce said: Is why I said "gamble." I've conversed with a dude who puts him at the top of his list and I've tried to explain that Texas won't do that. Quote
bierce Posted February 6 Posted February 6 (edited) I'm guessing if McCollum does make a jump to a P5 school, it will be in the Midwest where he can claim to have at least some kind of recruiting network in place. His entire roster hails from Missouri or Illinois, save the 10th man who plays only a smattering of minutes. He's from Wisconsin. So McCollum is probably an easier sell for someone like Iowa. I always liked McCaffery. He has a lot of fun, high-powered offenses. I loved his bit in the commercial with Hoiberg and Dixon. Iowa has a lot of patience with coaches having middling success. (Ferentz, anyone?) But McCaffery has 4 NCAA tournament wins going into this 15th season in Iowa City, is about to miss the tournament for the second straight year, and he turns 66 in May 65. I won't be surprised if Iowa moves on soon, even if not this year, and if McCollum repeats this year's success at Drake next year, then maybe there's their guy. Edited February 6 by bierce Quote
BobInHouston Posted February 6 Posted February 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gerry Hamilton said: Will Wade is going to try and get any high-major gig he can after the season ... agent probably already is Wade has served his time away from high D-I, and strong-ass offers are now A-OK. So yeah, he should be vetted. Edited February 6 by BobInHouston Quote
BobInHouston Posted February 6 Posted February 6 2 minutes ago, bierce said: But McCaffery has 4 NCAA tournament wins going into this 15th season in Iowa City, is about to miss the tournament for the second straight year, and he turns 66 in May 65. I won't be surprised if Iowa moves on soon, even if not this year, and if McCollum repeats this year's success at Drake next year, then maybe there's their guy. He hasn't won enough. If he were Pitino at that age, sure, but Rick has always won. Quote
bierce Posted February 6 Posted February 6 1 minute ago, BobInHouston said: He hasn't won enough. If he were Pitino at that age, sure, but Rick has always won. I wasn't suggesting McCaffery as a target to hire. I was suggesting Iowa might be getting ready to move on. Nor was I suggesting McCollum as a target for us. This thread is about schools maybe looking at making changes. I dared to introduce the topic of coaches that might prove of interest to someone. Doesn't mean I'm putting square peg A into star shaped hole 1. Except when it comes to McCollum and Iowa. That kind of makes sense to me. 2 Quote
Hashtag Posted February 6 Posted February 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, bierce said: I'm wondering if a P5 school will take a gamble on Ben McCollum. Might be a bit too early, because bringing your entire DII championship roster with you and using them to win the MVC (and beat Vandy and Kansas State along the way) might prove coaching chops, but it doesn't say anything about ability to recruit at a high level. He would technically be a CDC type hire if he had more D1 experience I think. Personally given our basketball program and his championship record I'd go after him. He's considered an extremely good X's and O's coach. He's only 43 years old as well so if you hit on him you'll have him for as long as you want or until he decides to go to the NBA. Edited February 6 by Hashtag 1 Quote
Hashtag Posted February 6 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, bierce said: Donovan also stated in the last couple of days that he is interested in being part of a rebuilding program, something he ran away from in OKC. Of course, it might remain an open question about whether that rebuilding program needs to be in the NBA. But there aren't many guys who had successful NBA coaching careers that went back to college coaching. Pitino, Calipari, Kruger, et al., pretty much crapped out in the NBA. Can you post the source of this Donovan stuff? Thanks! Quote
bierce Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Hurley has never won an NCAA tournament game and never had a team finish higher than 49th in Pomeroy while at Arizona State. This is his 10th season there. ASU missed the tournament in 3 of the last 4 seasons. ASU has lost its last 5 home games. "Fire Bobby Hurley" chants broke out during the last game. And there was all the crap that happened at the end of ASU's recent home loss to Arizona. ASU player head-butted Caleb Love, and it was in a dead ball situation. Just walk up and smash foreheads. Love stepped back, raised his hands, and was restrained by a teammate before he could even touch Freeman. Refs t'd Love for something he said. Refs reviewed it and ejected both players. Hurley later told his bench to go the locker room with 0.5 seconds left on the clock and a dead ball. He then waved his team off the court to skip the handshake line. He then blamed it all on UA players for winning with no class and promised he would not vote for Caleb Love for all Big 12 team. Complete dickishness. Lloyd says he understands ASU skipping the handshake line, but still . . . 1 Quote
bierce Posted February 6 Posted February 6 2 minutes ago, Hashtag said: Can you post the source of this Donovan stuff? Thanks! https://www.nba.com/bulls/news/billy-donovan-on-bulls-future-plans-i-want-to-be-part-of-building-something https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/02/05/chicago-bulls-billy-donovan-rebuild/ https://www.chicitysports.com/billy-donavan-rebuild-chicago-bulls-nba-news It could all be pr-ish coach-speak. 1 Quote
Hashtag Posted February 6 Posted February 6 My Short List for Texas(In no order) Tommy Lloyd - Arizona Ben McCollum - Drake TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St Mick Cronin - UCLA Billy Donovan - MAKE HIM SAY NO! Quote
Moderators Gerry Hamilton Posted February 6 Author Moderators Posted February 6 13 minutes ago, bierce said: Hurley has never won an NCAA tournament game and never had a team finish higher than 49th in Pomeroy while at Arizona State. This is his 10th season there. ASU missed the tournament in 3 of the last 4 seasons. ASU has lost its last 5 home games. "Fire Bobby Hurley" chants broke out during the last game. And there was all the crap that happened at the end of ASU's recent home loss to Arizona. ASU player head-butted Caleb Love, and it was in a dead ball situation. Just walk up and smash foreheads. Love stepped back, raised his hands, and was restrained by a teammate before he could even touch Freeman. Refs t'd Love for something he said. Refs reviewed it and ejected both players. Hurley later told his bench to go the locker room with 0.5 seconds left on the clock and a dead ball. He then waved his team off the court to skip the handshake line. He then blamed it all on UA players for winning with no class and promised he would not vote for Caleb Love for all Big 12 team. Complete dickishness. Lloyd says he understands ASU skipping the handshake line, but still . . . Problem is ASU was giving him $600K for NIL for the two seasons prior to this one. He had very little chance to build a roster to compete in the Big 12... If fired, he will get another gig and likely do pretty well IMO. HE is starting to get players now that he went and raised 2mill plus in NIL Quote
bierce Posted February 6 Posted February 6 I wonder if Rutgers will have much patience with Pikiell if Rutgers finishes sub .500 overall and Harper and Bailey wind up in the top 5 in the NBA draft? That'll be tough on a coach with two NCAA appearances and 1 tournament win and two winning seasons in conference in 9 seasons. Quote
Moderators CJ Vogel Posted February 6 Moderators Posted February 6 1 minute ago, THookem said: Long overdue. Shouldn't have been brought back for 2024-25. Keep him far away from Austin, Texas. Quote
Jordan91 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 3 hours ago, thatdude2 said: Royal Ivey? Mark Few? Bring Coach K out of retirement? Popavich????? Nick Saban?????? He was the only other person interviewed when Beard was hired. However, players returning to coach college basketball and failing & no ties to recruiting the state are always brought up with him. Quote
bierce Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Indiana basketball is like Nebraska football. Decades removed from a legendary coach. Decades removed from any big success. Fanbase still thinks it is royalty in the sport. Grabbing a new coach every 4 years or so. 1 Quote
Jordan91 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Hashtag said: My Short List for Texas(In no order) Tommy Lloyd - Arizona Ben McCollum - Drake TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St Mick Cronin - UCLA Billy Donovan - MAKE HIM SAY NO! Otzelberger signed an extension in December that puts him there until 2030 something. And then it becomes, why do I leave a rabid fan base and a top five team to come to a football school? Iowa State will match any offer. Donovan is too old, unless Texas is looking for say a five year coach. I like McCollum a lot but if CDC makes a move he needs to get it right. Quote
Jordan91 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 7 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said: Want to be clear ... 1. I'm not saying anything with certainty. A lot of season remaining that has to play out 2. Sean Miller was going to be the hire before Texas won the Sweet 16 game and made the Elite 8. I'm hearing a lot of Miami chatter with him (and Cronin) Is there a splash hire out there? One that makes everyone say wow? Quote
bierce Posted February 6 Posted February 6 I always thought Crean got shafted at IU. He inherited absolutely nothing after the program's implosion due to Sampson making a lot of phone calls. This is the non-portal era, so it was like Drew having to rebuild Baylor from the ground up. Crean got IU to the NCAA in his fourth year and made the tournament 4 times in five years, advancing to the Sweet Sixteen 3 times. Then future long time NBA star OG Anunoby blew out a knee in January, 2017. IU went 4-10 the rest of the way, missed the tournament, and Crean was canned, but not before the Indiana AD decided IU would not host an NIT game because it would "devalue" Assembly Hall. Well, you've had two tournament appearances and one tournament win since then, so maybe Assembly Hall's value is another historical relic. 2 Quote
Hashtag Posted February 6 Posted February 6 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Jordan91 said: Otzelberger signed an extension in December that puts him there until 2030 something. And then it becomes, why do I leave a rabid fan base and a top five team to come to a football school? Iowa State will match any offer. Donovan is too old, unless Texas is looking for say a five year coach. I like McCollum a lot but if CDC makes a move he needs to get it right. You think buyout matters? We didn’t pay Beard a dime and Terrys buyout will be less than 5 million. If CDC wants a guy he’d get him from that list. Also NIL at Texas > NIL at Iowa St Edited February 6 by Hashtag Quote
THookem Posted February 7 Posted February 7 https://godrakebulldogs.com/staff-directory/ben-mccollum/513 Quote
Jordan91 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Hashtag said: You think buyout matters? We didn’t pay Beard a dime and Terrys buyout will be less than 5 million. If CDC wants a guy he’d get him from that list. Also NIL at Texas > NIL at Iowa St I think leaving a rabid fan base that cares about basketball and fully supports it is the biggest issue. Why come to a place and start over? He already has what he wants. Quote
Hashtag Posted February 7 Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Jordan91 said: I think leaving a rabid fan base that cares about basketball and fully supports it is the biggest issue. Why come to a place and start over? He already has what he wants. They can fully support and still not produce as much NIL as we can. Quote
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