Austalgia Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) Might not be that hot of a take, but while Texas (or any SEC job) has more resources and leverage because of football money, some solely basketball schools (because of history and wins) are still better head coaching jobs than Texas. Edited March 30 by Austalgia Quote
Moderators Gerry Hamilton Posted March 30 Moderators Posted March 30 Texas basketball is a top 15-20 job in the country. That's where I have always been and remain. Rick Barnes gave it the look of a top 10-12 job for about a decade. Good discussion ... Current list (different from traditional list) ... tradition, talent pool to recruit from, fan base, NIL, conference future set up, etc... Top group: Kentucky Kansas North Carolina Duke UConn Michigan Michigan State Arizona Florida Louisville Villanova UCLA Next group: Indiana Gonzaga Arkansas Texas Illinois Auburn USC Wisconsin Syracuse Maryland Ohio State Tennessee Iowa State Missouri Alabama Oregon Purdue NC State Creighton Marquette St. John's Baylor Houston Virginia Moving up: BYU Texas Tech SMU 9 1 Quote
Jack Lala Posted March 30 Posted March 30 I think what you're saying is true, for now. Let's see if Sean Miller can elevate us. CDC is giving him what is needed to do so. 6 Quote
Oldest Horn Posted March 30 Posted March 30 I think the Big East schools with have a big opportunity with the new salary structure. Most of them have marginal football programs and and spend way more on basketball. Quote
Moderators Gerry Hamilton Posted March 30 Moderators Posted March 30 22 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said: I think the Big East schools with have a big opportunity with the new salary structure. Most of them have marginal football programs and and spend way more on basketball. They definitely will ... but the SEC is out to be the best too. Things will "get done" IMO Quote
Jordan91 Posted March 30 Posted March 30 31 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said: They definitely will ... but the SEC is out to be the best too. Things will "get done" IMO Then why does Tech have a better program? It’s not just coaching. 1 Quote
qaertyisthatdude Posted March 30 Posted March 30 Texas is down to their last two dollars in NIL. They will never be elite in MBB like they are in WBB apparently 1 1 Quote
thatdude2 Posted March 30 Posted March 30 4 hours ago, qaertyisthatdude said: Texas is down to their last two dollars in NIL. They will never be elite in MBB like they are in WBB apparently Need a coach that can catch up the modern game of basketball. Lowkey this been my play style on NBA2k and NBA Live since 1995. 1 Quote
Austalgia Posted March 30 Author Posted March 30 8 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said: Texas basketball is a top 15-20 job in the country. That's where I have always been and remain. Rick Barnes gave it the look of a top 10-12 job for about a decade. Good discussion ... Current list (different from traditional list) ... tradition, talent pool to recruit from, fan base, NIL, conference future set up, etc... Top group: Kentucky Kansas North Carolina Duke UConn Michigan Michigan State Arizona Florida Louisville Villanova UCLA Next group: Indiana Gonzaga Arkansas Texas Illinois Auburn USC Wisconsin Syracuse Maryland Ohio State Tennessee Iowa State Missouri Alabama Oregon Purdue NC State Creighton Marquette St. John's Baylor Houston Virginia Moving up: BYU Texas Tech SMU Maybe Xavier in there somewhere. They have been consistently pretty good like Creighton. (And we just stole their coach we can give them some love) 😂 Quote
Aspann85 Posted March 30 Posted March 30 8 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said: Texas basketball is a top 15-20 job in the country. That's where I have always been and remain. Rick Barnes gave it the look of a top 10-12 job for about a decade. Good discussion ... Current list (different from traditional list) ... tradition, talent pool to recruit from, fan base, NIL, conference future set up, etc... Top group: Kentucky Kansas North Carolina Duke UConn Michigan Michigan State Arizona Florida Louisville Villanova UCLA Next group: Indiana Gonzaga Arkansas Texas Illinois Auburn USC Wisconsin Syracuse Maryland Ohio State Tennessee Iowa State Missouri Alabama Oregon Purdue NC State Creighton Marquette St. John's Baylor Houston Virginia Moving up: BYU Texas Tech SMU Obviously no one is ever getting him, but any idea what the starting point on Izzo would be? Quote
bierce Posted March 30 Posted March 30 As I understand it, the House settlement provides both an absolute $ cap and a % of athletic revenue cap for NIL spending. Big East schools don't make big football $, so none of them should be able to spend 8 figures without going way over the % cap. Last Big East basketball TV deal was for $80 million a year for the conference, which has 11 members. Not getting anyone past the round of 32 won't help either. Of course, the Big East is not a defendant in the case, so it would have to opt in, and I haven't heard that it has. 1 1 Quote
Austalgia Posted March 30 Author Posted March 30 And could Houston due to history and current status be considered in that top group? Quote
MBHORNSFAN Posted March 30 Posted March 30 5 hours ago, qaertyisthatdude said: Texas is down to their last two dollars in NIL. They will never be elite in MBB like they are in WBB apparently Fake news. Quote
horns96 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 There's no reason Texas shouldn't be a top 25 team every year. If Tillman Fertitta can build UH into a perennial Sweet 16 contender, we can at least aspire to get back to Barnes' standard. 1 Quote
BobInHouston Posted March 31 Posted March 31 8 minutes ago, horns96 said: There's no reason Texas shouldn't be a top 25 team every year. If Tillman Fertitta can build UH into a perennial Sweet 16 contender, we can at least aspire to get back to Barnes' standard. Would that make you happy? Quote
qaertyisthatdude Posted March 31 Posted March 31 11 minutes ago, horns96 said: There's no reason Texas shouldn't be a top 25 team every year. If Tillman Fertitta can build UH into a perennial Sweet 16 contender, we can at least aspire to get back to Barnes' standard. And with CDC at the helm, there's no reason he can't raise the standard of the MBB program like he has for the other 20 sports on campus. 3 Quote
Brian Carter Posted March 31 Posted March 31 10 hours ago, qaertyisthatdude said: Texas is down to their last two dollars in NIL. They will never be elite in MBB like they are in WBB apparently This take is a bit dire. Beard was given all the resources to be elite...and I have all the confidence in the world that Miller will also. Our long term interim coach didn't get the same respect, nor should he have. His record was sub-par in ALL stops prior for a program with UT type status and money. 1 Quote
qaertyisthatdude Posted March 31 Posted March 31 4 hours ago, MBHORNSFAN said: Fake news. I think so too but don't shoot the messenger that's what I'm constantly told Quote
qaertyisthatdude Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Just now, Brian Carter said: This take is a bit dire. Beard was given all the resources to be elite...and I have all the confidence in the world that Miller will also. Our long term interim coach didn't get the same respect, nor should he have. His record was sub-par in ALL stops prior for a program with UT type status and money. Agreed but don't shoot the messenger. I think Texas cares more about hoops than most think. If they didn't, WBB wouldn't be making their 4th Elite Eight appearance in 5 years. 1 Quote
Hashtag Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) On 3/30/2025 at 6:56 AM, Gerry Hamilton said: Texas basketball is a top 15-20 job in the country. That's where I have always been and remain. Rick Barnes gave it the look of a top 10-12 job for about a decade. Good discussion ... Current list (different from traditional list) ... tradition, talent pool to recruit from, fan base, NIL, conference future set up, etc... Top group: Kentucky Kansas North Carolina Duke UConn Michigan Michigan State Arizona Florida Louisville Villanova UCLA Next group: Indiana Gonzaga Arkansas Texas Illinois Auburn USC Wisconsin Syracuse Maryland Ohio State Tennessee Iowa State Missouri Alabama Oregon Purdue NC State Creighton Marquette St. John's Baylor Houston Virginia Moving up: BYU Texas Tech SMU I think Texas of all the schools you list has the best job to jump up in status. Kind of crazy how UCONN was before 1999....and I look at them as something Texas should strive for in basketball. Your run always has to start somewhere and I think with Texas resources and this era once we get our first we could eventually rip off some titles over the course of the next decade or two. UCONN before 1st title: E8 - 1964, 1990, 1995, 1998 S16 - 1951, 1956, 1964, 1976, 1990, 1991, 1994, 1995, 1996*, 1998, Texas FF - 1943, 1947, 2003 E8 - 1939, 1943, 1947, 1990, 2003, 2006, 2008, 2023 S16 - 1960, 1963, 1972, 1990, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008, 2023 Kind of crazy how they look when you put perspective. Edited March 31 by Hashtag 1 Quote
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