Dread-headed Texan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said: The football world evolves and access is at an all time. Yet it amazes me the narratives that pop up and take off. And admittedly it makes me more cautious regarding this game. I remain confident about the Horns chances. If the players are in that mindset, it’s a good place to be. The confidence on the OSU side comes off as overconfidence. Your defense was the backbone of your team as was ours. OSU lost a ton of reps there and has minimal reps returning at certain spots. Yet the talk comes off as this unit will be ready and raring to go. Nevermind you have a new DC. OSU lost their most veteran receiver but added a TE so that’s somehow an immediate upgrade. Yet we’ll ignore that Texas returns 5 starters out of the back 7. That does not include Williams and McDonald, both with starts and one that was logging significant reps until hurt. And supposedly LeFau is known for his pass coverage ability. Advantage OSU. The OSU Oline is getting significant talk apparently about how good they are. This is based on a team accomplishment. Their most accomplished guy from last year is gone. Both starting tackles are gone to be replaced with a relatively inexperienced, new to the position guy and a transfer with limited experience. We are replacing guys upfront defensively, but they’ve been replaced with a good balance of experience, maturity and variation to match opposing offenses. Advantage OSU. We lose considerable experience offensively but relative to the OSU defensive losses it’s very possible we net out ahead there. Cole Hutson is much like OSUs two most experienced guys. He needs to step up and prove it. Campbell given pedigree, production and the live bullets he’s seen should be considered the top olineman in the game. Goosby has limited but quality game experience. Guys like Robertson and Neto have been here going on 4 years. We lose Golden, Bond and Helm. Two first year st Texas WRs, both less than 100% in last years meeting. Helm was not much of a receiver until he was. Wingo is the best combo of size/speed on our last two teams, and Endries has better numbers than Klare to date. There’s a good chance we’re better at TE this year than last. An underappreciated element here may be the production each team gets from their TEs blocking. Advantage OSU. OSU at RB has a transfer with experience and one dude with little experience. We have two guys with experience albeit one returning from injury. The run games are probably more to do with what happens upfront than any spectacular efforts from the RBs. Do advantage OSU. QB. We shall see, but you’d have to give us the nod. Arch has been around longer and has more live reps. Sounds like his skill set is more varied. Advantage OSU. From a non-Texas fan perspective, there are some elements that may go under the radar. Defensively, we’ve made a concerted effort at certain positions to rotate that are not typical. Safety for one. We rotate pretty well upfront too. Simmons is not a retuning starter. Moore may be a returning starter but is not starting this year. We also present different skillsets and can mix and match our opponents. We are well balanced and an injury or two should be navigated well. Then there is the continuity element although we lost some back-end coaches here. It will come down to who plays closest to their potential. And it could be a drop here, a missed tackle there or an overthrow or perfectly thrown pass that is the final key play. Then the respective winning fans can beat their chests about how right they were in their pregame analysis in the toss-up 3 point game. Couldn't agree more, I have an idea on what I would like to see and would do, but I'm just a fan. Nothing I say is bound to happen, I would like for Texas to pull it out. And if you're right about anything 🤣 if Texas does win, it's because they listened to me and I'm applying for the first coaching job available at Texas. 1 3 Quote
Ironmanz35 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said: The football world evolves and access is at an all time. Yet it amazes me the narratives that pop up and take off. And admittedly it makes me more cautious regarding this game. I remain confident about the Horns chances. If the players are in that mindset, it’s a good place to be. The confidence on the OSU side comes off as overconfidence. Your defense was the backbone of your team as was ours. OSU lost a ton of reps there and has minimal reps returning at certain spots. Yet the talk comes off as this unit will be ready and raring to go. Nevermind you have a new DC. OSU lost their most veteran receiver but added a TE so that’s somehow an immediate upgrade. Yet we’ll ignore that Texas returns 5 starters out of the back 7. That does not include Williams and McDonald, both with starts and one that was logging significant reps until hurt. And supposedly LeFau is known for his pass coverage ability. Advantage OSU. The OSU Oline is getting significant talk apparently about how good they are. This is based on a team accomplishment. Their most accomplished guy from last year is gone. Both starting tackles are gone to be replaced with a relatively inexperienced, new to the position guy and a transfer with limited experience. We are replacing guys upfront defensively, but they’ve been replaced with a good balance of experience, maturity and variation to match opposing offenses. Advantage OSU. We lose considerable experience offensively but relative to the OSU defensive losses it’s very possible we net out ahead there. Cole Hutson is much like OSUs two most experienced guys. He needs to step up and prove it. Campbell given pedigree, production and the live bullets he’s seen should be considered the top olineman in the game. Goosby has limited but quality game experience. Guys like Robertson and Neto have been here going on 4 years. We lose Golden, Bond and Helm. Two first year st Texas WRs, both less than 100% in last years meeting. Helm was not much of a receiver until he was. Wingo is the best combo of size/speed on our last two teams, and Endries has better numbers than Klare to date. There’s a good chance we’re better at TE this year than last. An underappreciated element here may be the production each team gets from their TEs blocking. Advantage OSU. OSU at RB has a transfer with experience and one dude with little experience. We have two guys with experience albeit one returning from injury. The run games are probably more to do with what happens upfront than any spectacular efforts from the RBs. Do advantage OSU. QB. We shall see, but you’d have to give us the nod. Arch has been around longer and has more live reps. Sounds like his skill set is more varied. Advantage OSU. From a non-Texas fan perspective, there are some elements that may go under the radar. Defensively, we’ve made a concerted effort at certain positions to rotate that are not typical. Safety for one. We rotate pretty well upfront too. Simmons is not a retuning starter. Moore may be a returning starter but is not starting this year. We also present different skillsets and can mix and match our opponents. We are well balanced and an injury or two should be navigated well. Then there is the continuity element although we lost some back-end coaches here. It will come down to who plays closest to their potential. And it could be a drop here, a missed tackle there or an overthrow or perfectly thrown pass that is the final key play. Then the respective winning fans can beat their chests about how right they were in their pregame analysis in the toss-up 3 point game. My opinion only based on what is returning for both Teams and caliber of new starters. QB-Advantage Texas RB-Advantage Texas WR-Advantage OSU O-Line advantage OSU TE- Even (slight lean Texas) D-Line-Advantage Texas LB- Even (slight lean Texas) DB’s Advantage OSU Special Teams- Even 5 Quote
LovingBuckeye Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said: The football world evolves and access is at an all time. Yet it amazes me the narratives that pop up and take off. And admittedly it makes me more cautious regarding this game. I remain confident about the Horns chances. If the players are in that mindset, it’s a good place to be. The confidence on the OSU side comes off as overconfidence. Your defense was the backbone of your team as was ours. OSU lost a ton of reps there and has minimal reps returning at certain spots. Yet the talk comes off as this unit will be ready and raring to go. Nevermind you have a new DC. OSU lost their most veteran receiver but added a TE so that’s somehow an immediate upgrade. Yet we’ll ignore that Texas returns 5 starters out of the back 7. That does not include Williams and McDonald, both with starts and one that was logging significant reps until hurt. And supposedly LeFau is known for his pass coverage ability. Advantage OSU. The OSU Oline is getting significant talk apparently about how good they are. This is based on a team accomplishment. Their most accomplished guy from last year is gone. Both starting tackles are gone to be replaced with a relatively inexperienced, new to the position guy and a transfer with limited experience. We are replacing guys upfront defensively, but they’ve been replaced with a good balance of experience, maturity and variation to match opposing offenses. Advantage OSU. We lose considerable experience offensively but relative to the OSU defensive losses it’s very possible we net out ahead there. Cole Hutson is much like OSUs two most experienced guys. He needs to step up and prove it. Campbell given pedigree, production and the live bullets he’s seen should be considered the top olineman in the game. Goosby has limited but quality game experience. Guys like Robertson and Neto have been here going on 4 years. We lose Golden, Bond and Helm. Two first year st Texas WRs, both less than 100% in last years meeting. Helm was not much of a receiver until he was. Wingo is the best combo of size/speed on our last two teams, and Endries has better numbers than Klare to date. There’s a good chance we’re better at TE this year than last. An underappreciated element here may be the production each team gets from their TEs blocking. Advantage OSU. OSU at RB has a transfer with experience and one dude with little experience. We have two guys with experience albeit one returning from injury. The run games are probably more to do with what happens upfront than any spectacular efforts from the RBs. Do advantage OSU. QB. We shall see, but you’d have to give us the nod. Arch has been around longer and has more live reps. Sounds like his skill set is more varied. Advantage OSU. From a non-Texas fan perspective, there are some elements that may go under the radar. Defensively, we’ve made a concerted effort at certain positions to rotate that are not typical. Safety for one. We rotate pretty well upfront too. Simmons is not a retuning starter. Moore may be a returning starter but is not starting this year. We also present different skillsets and can mix and match our opponents. We are well balanced and an injury or two should be navigated well. Then there is the continuity element although we lost some back-end coaches here. It will come down to who plays closest to their potential. And it could be a drop here, a missed tackle there or an overthrow or perfectly thrown pass that is the final key play. Then the respective winning fans can beat their chests about how right they were in their pregame analysis in the toss-up 3 point game. It’s because many of these players have been in the program for 3-4 years already, and we know what we are getting from them. It doesn’t mean Texas won’t win, or there won’t be hiccups though Quote
TTaylor2135 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Ironmanz35 said: My opinion only based on what is returning for both Teams and caliber of new starters. QB-Advantage Texas RB-Advantage Texas WR-Advantage OSU O-Line advantage OSU TE- Even (slight lean Texas) D-Line-Advantage Texas LB- Even (slight lean Texas) DB’s Advantage OSU Special Teams- Even TE can go either way but may lean OSU here.. Special teams I need to see it to believe it after last year (although was good previous years).. Quote
Here for the Wins Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 26 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said: With it be Ohio State that is surprised, or Texas? I can just as easily see Texas being surprised that there is no drop off in Ohio State’s D (if that happens). Yes, I’d be surprised. You don’t want to acknowledge the amount of experience you lost on defense. Houston has played 141 snaps, 27 versus an atrocious Purdue. McDonald has 247 snaps. Will Smith has 34. Malone 250. After last year Williams and Hamilton had over 1,600 snaps each. Curry and Jackson around 500 each. That’s decent. Sawyer, JTT had a combined 4,000. Hicks at 226 then Atkinson has two years of good reps. You lose a lot with Simon behind them. But of the 3 groups, this is the most experienced grouping returning. On the back end, Burke, Ransom, Hancock played a ton too. And as best as I can tell, the guys leaving were Ohio State guys that were in the program for the duration. Almost all of whom were logging reps for 3 or 4 years. 3 or 4 years of more reps than Jackson and Curry have been logging in single years. You’ll have some guys hit and probably big, but that’s a lot of truly unknown quantities you are asking to come thru early in the season. Quote
LovingBuckeye Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 10 minutes ago, TTaylor2135 said: TE can go either way but may lean OSU here.. Special teams I need to see it to believe it after last year (although was good previous years).. I know I'm biased, but I think Ohio State might not have the #1 TE in the country, but has the #1 TE room in the country. They legitimately go 4 deep with guys who could playing meaningful snaps against Texas. I think Klare is going to be one of the top TE's in CFB, but maybe not #1 or #2. Quote
LovingBuckeye Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said: Yes, I’d be surprised. You don’t want to acknowledge the amount of experience you lost on defense. Houston has played 141 snaps, 27 versus an atrocious Purdue. McDonald has 247 snaps. Will Smith has 34. Malone 250. After last year Williams and Hamilton had over 1,600 snaps each. Curry and Jackson around 500 each. That’s decent. Sawyer, JTT had a combined 4,000. Hicks at 226 then Atkinson has two years of good reps. You lose a lot with Simon behind them. But of the 3 groups, this is the most experienced grouping returning. On the back end, Burke, Ransom, Hancock played a ton too. And as best as I can tell, the guys leaving were Ohio State guys that were in the program for the duration. Almost all of whom were logging reps for 3 or 4 years. 3 or 4 years of more reps than Jackson and Curry have been logging in single years. You’ll have some guys hit and probably big, but that’s a lot of truly unknown quantities you are asking to come thru early in the season. I know what you are saying, but this is also based on practice reports from the spring all the way through fall camp. By all reports, Kenyatta Jackson Jr is looking and playing like a 1st or 2nd round pick. Although I will grant you that not much has been said one way or the other about Caden Curry/Beau Atkinson on the other side. As for linebacker - Cody Simon was a leader and very experienced, but Arvel Reese has a much higher ceiling and is much faster and more athletic than Simon was, plus Sonny Styles was always a safety, last season was his first at linebacker, so we are expecting another jump for the former 5* #12 overall prospect. As for DB's. Denzel Burke was experienced, but never a lockdown cornerback. We are expecting an upgrade with Jermaine Matthews Jr taking his snaps. Matthews Jr is an actual NFL prospect, where I don't even think Burke made an NFL roster. Losing Jordan Hancock doesn't worry us just because of the insane recruiting at the CB position. Lathan Ransom could be the biggest loss of the secondary and one that may hurt Ohio State the most. That will be Jaylen McClain and Malik Hartford competing to replace him. As for defensive tackles, there was never a concern about the starters (Eddrick Houston & Kayden McDonald), the concerns have been about 3-5. I am personally still concerned about the depth, but Ryan Day seems confident that they developed good depth over the off season, so hopefully that isn't an issue either. Edited 1 hour ago by LovingBuckeye Quote
Ironmanz35 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 24 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said: Yes, I’d be surprised. You don’t want to acknowledge the amount of experience you lost on defense. Houston has played 141 snaps, 27 versus an atrocious Purdue. McDonald has 247 snaps. Will Smith has 34. Malone 250. After last year Williams and Hamilton had over 1,600 snaps each. Curry and Jackson around 500 each. That’s decent. Sawyer, JTT had a combined 4,000. Hicks at 226 then Atkinson has two years of good reps. You lose a lot with Simon behind them. But of the 3 groups, this is the most experienced grouping returning. On the back end, Burke, Ransom, Hancock played a ton too. And as best as I can tell, the guys leaving were Ohio State guys that were in the program for the duration. Almost all of whom were logging reps for 3 or 4 years. 3 or 4 years of more reps than Jackson and Curry have been logging in single years. You’ll have some guys hit and probably big, but that’s a lot of truly unknown quantities you are asking to come thru early in the season. You are correct experience wise. Talent wise on paper we look to be OK with the new starters but how does that translate to a live game. D-Line is much easier to have ready week one than an O-line. I will be interested to see Patricia schemes. Fall camp has repped everything form 5-2 to 4-3 to Nickel. One X Factor on D is Downs, he reminds me 100% of Troy Polamalu the dude's Football IQ is through the roof and his athleticism off the charts. He is a game changer and disrupter from so many different spots on the field. He may be at FS, SS, Nickel may walk him up at LB and blitz him. He is the unquestioned leader of the D and another coach on the field. I am confidant he will make the correct pre snap reads and make the calls to get our guys lined up right. The question is how well do so many unproven new starters execute. Quote
Here for the Wins Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said: It’s because many of these players have been in the program for 3-4 years already, and we know what we are getting from them. It doesn’t mean Texas won’t win, or there won’t be hiccups though Hutson, Neto, Robertson, Campbell all 4th year in the program. Goosby 3rd year in the program. Hutson has played quite a bit yet I have no idea what to expect. I’m hopeful. Sieve… he played little against us. He’s changed positions, right? You really don’t know what you have. You’re hopeful. Tegra. All signs point to him being mediocre. You’re hopeful he becomes something he hasn’t been. Hinzman, Montgomery. Again hopeful. Montgomery has played as much as Goosby. Both 3rd year guys? Goosby played against some 1st round guys. Started against them. Played the whole time. So why is Montgomery a better example of quality than Goosby? Campbell versus Hinzman. Campbell wins that. Our 5th guy, Neto. Chopped liver. 4th year guy. Top 200 National recruit. Mediocre bloodlines, brother is a DE at Texas. Baker is an unknown but good recruiting chops. The youngest of the bunch. Daniels went to Minnesota. Why? Some experience but young too. New to your program. Presumably played at Minny due to injury. Maybe an advantage you but we really don’t know. I was not comparing position by position but relative experience. You have us on the 4th and 5th guys in experience but otherwise don’t. And there are holes in those guys experience too. Quote
Dread-headed Texan Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Ironmanz35 said: You are correct experience wise. Talent wise on paper we look to be OK with the new starters but how does that translate to a live game. D-Line is much easier to have ready week one than an O-line. I will be interested to see Patricia schemes. Fall camp has repped everything form 5-2 to 4-3 to Nickel. One X Factor on D is Downs, he reminds me 100% of Troy Polamalu the dude's Football IQ is through the roof and his athleticism off the charts. He is a game changer and disrupter from so many different spots on the field. He may be at FS, SS, Nickel may walk him up at LB and blitz him. He is the unquestioned leader of the D and another coach on the field. I am confidant he will make the correct pre snap reads and make the calls to get our guys lined up right. The question is how well do so many unproven new starters execute. I like Downs in Jim Knowles scheme as the middle safety lurking in an inverted Tampa two, coming up at strong safety playing in the box around the line of scrimmage. As a high safety he leaves a lot to be desired, go watch the spring game or the Alabama/Texas game, Sark picked on him all night. Everytime Sark put Downs in conflict Texas scored. Quote
LovingBuckeye Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said: Hutson, Neto, Robertson, Campbell all 4th year in the program. Goosby 3rd year in the program. Hutson has played quite a bit yet I have no idea what to expect. I’m hopeful. Sieve… he played little against us. He’s changed positions, right? You really don’t know what you have. You’re hopeful. Tegra. All signs point to him being mediocre. You’re hopeful he becomes something he hasn’t been. Hinzman, Montgomery. Again hopeful. Montgomery has played as much as Goosby. Both 3rd year guys? Goosby played against some 1st round guys. Started against them. Played the whole time. So why is Montgomery a better example of quality than Goosby? Campbell versus Hinzman. Campbell wins that. Our 5th guy, Neto. Chopped liver. 4th year guy. Top 200 National recruit. Mediocre bloodlines, brother is a DE at Texas. Baker is an unknown but good recruiting chops. The youngest of the bunch. Daniels went to Minnesota. Why? Some experience but young too. New to your program. Presumably played at Minny due to injury. Maybe an advantage you but we really don’t know. I was not comparing position by position but relative experience. You have us on the 4th and 5th guys in experience but otherwise don’t. And there are holes in those guys experience too. Sure, if you are only looking at snaps. But LG Luke Montgomery, C Carson Hinzman, and RG Tegra Tshabola just dominated Indiana, Tennessee, Oregon, and Notre Dame, and played well enough for OSU to win against Texas. We know we can win a national championship with that interior OL because we just did it. As for Austin Siereveld, yes he was always the #1 backup at either guard position. I don't expect other fan bases to just take an Ohio State's word for it, but it seems like the coaches know exactly what they are going to get from Siereveld, and it seems like they expect it to be a very high level. Quote
LovingBuckeye Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Dread-headed Texan said: I like Downs in Jim Knowles scheme as the middle safety lurking in an inverted Tampa two, coming up at strong safety playing in the box around the line of scrimmage. As a high safety he leaves a lot to be desired, go watch the spring game or the Alabama/Texas game, Sark picked on him all night. Everytime Sark put Downs in conflict Texas scored. Caleb Downs will be around the scrimmage, playing a similar role to the Cotton Bowl. It'll be a lot of the nickel back moving to deep safety (like Jordan Hancock last year), except this year it would be Lorenzo Styles Jr who is the starting nickel back, or Aaron Scott Jr, Bryce West, or Devin Sanchez. Quote
Here for the Wins Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 23 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said: I know what you are saying, but this is also based on practice reports from the spring all the way through fall camp. By all reports, Kenyatta Jackson Jr is looking and playing like a 1st or 2nd round pick. Although I will grant you that not much has been said one way or the other about Caden Curry/Beau Atkinson on the other side. As for linebacker - Cody Simon was a leader and very experienced, but Arvel Reese has a much higher ceiling and is much faster and more athletic than Simon was, plus Sonny Styles was always a safety, last season was his first at linebacker, so we are expecting another jump for the former 5* #12 overall prospect. As for DB's. Denzel Burke was experienced, but never a lockdown cornerback. We are expecting an upgrade with Jermaine Matthews Jr taking his snaps. Matthews Jr is an actual NFL prospect, where I don't even think Burke made an NFL roster. Losing Jordan Hancock doesn't worry us just because of the insane recruiting at the CB position. Lathan Ransom could be the biggest loss of the secondary and one that may hurt Ohio State the most. That will be Jaylen McClain and Malik Hartford competing to replace him. As for defensive tackles, there was never a concern about the starters (Eddrick Houston & Kayden McDonald), the concerns have been about 3-5. I am personally still concerned about the depth, but Ryan Day seems confident that they developed good depth over the off season, so hopefully that isn't an issue either. You’re a fan. I get it. I’m sorta not reliant on practice reports anymore. They’re just all over the board. And I’m more well versed on Ohio State due to your presence. One of the counters to less theoretical talent is experience. And I don’t believe the guys you lost were without talent. Quote
TTaylor2135 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 32 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said: I know I'm biased, but I think Ohio State might not have the #1 TE in the country, but has the #1 TE room in the country. They legitimately go 4 deep with guys who could playing meaningful snaps against Texas. I think Klare is going to be one of the top TE's in CFB, but maybe not #1 or #2. Agreed, was a big fan of Klare coming out of the portal. Another reason I give you guys the advantage is because I'm not entirely sure how the TE will look this year as opposed to the past few years with Quinn. As you and everyone else knows, he had no deep ball and excelled in the mid-range and the TE was his best friend. Arch is quite the opposite so curious how many targets we are looking at TE wise this year.. I do like Endries a lot though and could see improvement vs Helm but we shall see. 1 Quote
LovingBuckeye Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 14 minutes ago, Ironmanz35 said: You are correct experience wise. Talent wise on paper we look to be OK with the new starters but how does that translate to a live game. D-Line is much easier to have ready week one than an O-line. I will be interested to see Patricia schemes. Fall camp has repped everything form 5-2 to 4-3 to Nickel. One X Factor on D is Downs, he reminds me 100% of Troy Polamalu the dude's Football IQ is through the roof and his athleticism off the charts. He is a game changer and disrupter from so many different spots on the field. He may be at FS, SS, Nickel may walk him up at LB and blitz him. He is the unquestioned leader of the D and another coach on the field. I am confidant he will make the correct pre snap reads and make the calls to get our guys lined up right. The question is how well do so many unproven new starters execute. Julian Sayin is the #1 question mark I am most excited about learning about on Saturday, #2 is what a Matt Patricia D looks like. I'm expecting a lot of exotic blitzes and simulated pressures against that new look OL. 1 Quote
LovingBuckeye Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said: You’re a fan. I get it. I’m sorta not reliant on practice reports anymore. They’re just all over the board. And I’m more well versed on Ohio State due to your presence. One of the counters to less theoretical talent is experience. And I don’t believe the guys you lost were without talent. I get it, but you need to know (you in general, not you literally) which practice reports you throw out and which ones to listen to. Pay attention to how the players react when certain names are brought up, or is there one consistent player a certain coach, or all of the coaches keep bringing up all off season, especially when unprompted. Also pay attention to position battles and how quickly they are won or lost. As far as Siereveld goes, Ohio State gives out what they call the "Iron Buckeye" aware for winter and spring lifting and general weight room competitions. Seireveld was an Iron Buckeye in the winder, and again in the spring and then won the starting LT position very quickly over Ethan Onianwa. On top of multiple coaches saying Siereveld has been playing very well. Edited 1 hour ago by LovingBuckeye Quote
Dread-headed Texan Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, LovingBuckeye said: Caleb Downs will be around the scrimmage, playing a similar role to the Cotton Bowl. It'll be a lot of the nickel back moving to deep safety (like Jordan Hancock last year), except this year it would be Lorenzo Styles Jr who is the starting nickel back, or Aaron Scott Jr, Bryce West, or Devin Sanchez. This may seem like a homer comment, but if we're talking pure safety play(eraser and being the communicator on the back end) I'm taking Taafe all day everyday, but if we're talking football player and defensive chess peice. No question, it's Downs everytime. Quote
LovingBuckeye Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Dread-headed Texan said: This may seem like a homer comment, but if we're talking pure safety play(eraser and being the communicator on the back end) I'm taking Taafe all day everyday, but if we're talking football player and defensive chess peice. No question, it's Downs everytime. That is certainly a homer comment, and an opinion that nobody outside of maybe you and a few others in the UT fan base would hold if they actually had a chance to pick one of the two safeties, but I've made plenty of homer comments, so I don't judge you. Quote
LovingBuckeye Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, TTaylor2135 said: Agreed, was a big fan of Klare coming out of the portal. Another reason I give you guys the advantage is because I'm not entirely sure how the TE will look this year as opposed to the past few years with Quinn. As you and everyone else knows, he had no deep ball and excelled in the mid-range and the TE was his best friend. Arch is quite the opposite so curious how many targets we are looking at TE wise this year.. I do like Endries a lot though and could see improvement vs Helm but we shall see. I'll be honestly, I didn't even know the name of Klare until he committed to Ohio State. And Ohio State even played Purdue last season. But everybody keeps telling me he is an elite TE so I'm excited to see it lol 1 Quote
Here for the Wins Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said: Sure, if you are only looking at snaps. But LG Luke Montgomery, C Carson Hinzman, and RG Tegra Tshabola just dominated Indiana, Tennessee, Oregon, and Notre Dame, and played well enough for OSU to win against Texas. We know we can win a national championship with that interior OL because we just did it. As for Austin Siereveld, yes he was always the #1 backup at either guard position. I don't expect other fan bases to just take an Ohio State's word for it, but it seems like the coaches know exactly what they are going to get from Siereveld, and it seems like they expect it to be a very high level. Those guys did not dominate those teams. Your teams did. If you don’t win it all this year, will your tune change to well maybe it was something else that won it? Again, many Horn fans will tell you that you are fortunate Williams played over Goosby. That might have been enough to enable us to say national champs. That’s how narrow it is. Quote
LovingBuckeye Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said: Those guys did not dominate those teams. Your teams did. If you don’t win it all this year, will your tune change to well maybe it was something else that won it? Again, many Horn fans will tell you that you are fortunate Williams played over Goosby. That might have been enough to enable us to say national champs. That’s how narrow it is. No, Ohio State's offensive line dominated their defensive lines. Ohio State could have scored 70 against Tennessee if they wanted, ran right through Oregon and Notre Dame, due to the clean pockets the OL created, and the running lanes they created for Judkins and Henderson. Edited 1 hour ago by LovingBuckeye Quote
Dread-headed Texan Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, LovingBuckeye said: That is certainly a homer comment, and an opinion that nobody outside of maybe you and a few others in the UT fan base would hold if they actually had a chance to pick one of the two safeties, but I've made plenty of homer comments, so I don't judge you. I'm going off of tape though. Go watch the Aggie game, the touchdown he saved against Arizona State, the play he made against Miss State playing from his safety position. He really is a difference maker. As a safety does Downs numbers come close? https://youtube.com/shorts/PFTO6VM3V5k?feature=shared Quote
LovingBuckeye Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Dread-headed Texan said: I'm going off of tape though. Go watch the Aggie game, the touchdown he saved against Arizona State, the play he made against Miss State playing from his safety position. He really is a difference maker. As a safety does Downs numbers come close? https://youtube.com/shorts/PFTO6VM3V5k?feature=shared Taffe's an All-American, of course he's good. Caleb Downs is a top 10 NFL draft pick playing in college football. Quote
Here for the Wins Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Dread-headed Texan said: I'm going off of tape though. Go watch the Aggie game, the touchdown he saved against Arizona State, the play he made against Miss State playing from his safety position. He really is a difference maker. As a safety does Downs numbers come close? https://youtube.com/shorts/PFTO6VM3V5k?feature=shared Downs has 4 career interceptions and 6 PBUs. His strength is in his all around game. But those numbers are limited and I believe the puck versus us was garbage time. Quote
Dread-headed Texan Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said: Taffe's an All-American, of course he's good. Caleb Downs is a top 10 NFL draft pick playing in college football. No doubt thats because he's going to test well and Taafe will not. Quote
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