tenneseehorn08

Assuming we took care of business at home, we also would play the B12 champ, to get into semifinal. I think that is almost worth it.

I agree with Joel Klatt. But that is a prospective, future-looking solution. That doesn't address the appropriate punishment right now under the current rules for the past violations. And I'm certainly not saying or implying you did any of this. I'm saying the only way to ensure that in the future other people don't throw a similar tantrum through similar acts of rioting/vandalism is to ensure there is no incentive for us to do it again. 250k, taking away beer sales, or kicking out a couple students of future games won't work. Even if it was a terrible call, you have to live with it under the current rules, because that's sports. If they fix the rules so it doesn't happen again via replay, great. But that comes with downsides too, and there will always be certain unreviewable plays where the refs mess it up. When those happen, the precedent has been set that a tantrum will fix the problem. So unless that is so heavily punished that it takes that option off the table, it will happen again. The hammer should come down to ensure it does not ever happen again.

Acceptable extreme expression form of frustration: booing the refs, even cursing them out. Unacceptable form of expression: throwing trash on field. We will never know if they would have changed the call otherwise. The fact that that IT WORKED is beside the point. Other teams that we play will be screwed by very bad calls in the future, we may get similarly screwed again, and it will not justify this behavior. That is sports. In order not to incentive it because IT WORKED is precisely why it should be severely punished. Otherwise you teach students, the leaders of tomorrow, that you can get what you want by throwing a tantrum/rioting.

So a riot, which is what this was, is justified because we don't like the call? There will be lots of calls we don't like. Officials will not (and cannot) always get things right. It doesn't matter how bad it is. Throwing a tantrum because you perceive something as unfair is how children behave. We should not reward childish behavior. Just the opposite: it should be severely punished. Right now, with the call reversed, we have been more rewarded than punished. That sets a terrible precedent. If we don't reverse course and get hammered even more, then it sends a message to every fanbase that acting like a child and throwing a tantrum is acceptable. But it is not.

A lawyer would say you're not in a public forum, you are on someone else's property. A ticket is a limited license to enter that property, subject to all restrictions imposed by the property holder, whether you are on notice of those restrictions or not. You're right to freedom of speech does not include the right to trash someone else's property. We should get a post-season ban this year for this behavior. It was egregious. Bad calls are part of the game; this was entirely inappropriate and unacceptable and will be a black eye on the University for years to come. Anything less and idiots will continue to feel this behavior was justified to get the call reversed, which would incentive this bad behavior going forward. if the shoe were on the other foot and Georgia fans did this, we would be apoplectic, justifiably so. It's like rioting. If you don't punish it sufficiently, then the offenders come back and do it again. That is what this was and is. Alcohol sales, fines, and individual bans are not enough to deter this behavior. They need to hammer us in the only way the fans will understand: taking away the postseason. Truly pains me as a proud Longhorn to say it, but that behavior is something I would expect from the clowns at Tech, not Texas.

Wrong on the trash point. That was easily the most embarrassing, ridiculous thing. We deserve another decade of futility for that clown behavior.

59-6, good guys take it to em.

As a low-level season ticket holder, I qualified to request Vandy and Arkansas tickets this year (for the first time). Last I heard, they said we would be notified by July 15 re if we were able to purchase. Anyone receive notification or been able to purchase yet? Just curious. Really want to make the Vandy game this year as I'm right down the road (Arkansas would be fun too)

https://youtu.be/5VdrC1bmghA?si=4b4ff-jBMhT-DJrp Most interesting tidbit is the receiver rotation admission. We knew that was possible, but he came out and just said it.

Longhorns over everything, but the idea Harbaugh would take players who didn't deserve it just to make Michigan's numbers look good makes no sense. His willingness to play fast and loose with the rules is all about winning. He took those players because he thinks they will help them win, nothing more, nothing less. Now, he could be completely wrong that those players were more valuable than other available players. But he probably had less time to prepare sufficient evals on the players with borderline NFL value and so went with players he knew and understood.

Decent. Hope it's enough!

Did whittington's individual pro day ever happen? If not, I assume he still isn't 100% healthy?

Obviously, Kelvin Banks going in first round is impressive regardless. Curious why people seem to have dropped him from a likely top 5 pick after freshman year though?