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At least part of the problem is the contracts the players are signing tend to be onerous and read more like employment agreements rather than NIL deals. That leaves enough wiggle room for lawyers to leverage the situation.

I feel personally attacked.

No, I’m with you. I have always said tournament team this year would be nice, but it doesn’t kill me if they aren’t - I just want a reason to be invested on that first Thursday and Friday. I also don’t think it’s any secret that basketball is third-wheel at Texas (by a large margin), but I would push back on the big recruiting wins, not necessarily because we win them today, but where the program was in the 2000’s, we were a top 10 program during that run. Boosters would have given money to Barnes to make things go forward because Barnes showed that he could do it. There were tangible results. As you know, JT Toppin wanted to be a Longhorn, but money in Lubbock is just as green (and double) the money in Austin. Part of me wonders if we had Beard, whether the boosters would have coughed up what we needed (I think so). At the end of the day, you are correct that we operate mid-table in the SEC on NIL funds (not near enough to win anything meaningful, unless you get creative).

Not saying you ... but many people in these threads say Texas can't shoot, or doesn't have shooters from three ... and that tells me people aren't realistic or don't truly watch/follow college hoops ... Texas is 35.4% from three ... Arizona 35.4% BYU 35.3% Michigan State 35.2% Tennessee 34.9% DUKE 34.8% Kentucky 34.8% St. John's 34.2% Gonzaga 33.9% UNC 33.7% Miami 33.7% Houston 33.6% Georgia 32.9% Three-point shooting isn't actually a weakness. I think for some reason there is an expectation that the best teams fire 38-40% from three. There isn't a top team that is at 40% this season. A couple in the 39%'s, but most are under 38% and closer to mid-36%'s to 33.5%

I'm not saying Texas will move on from Miller. Texas literally can't hire a better coach IMO. Miller was brought in to legitimately build a program ... not just chase as many seniors as possible (as some others have done in year one's). The fan base, however, will be totally out by year three if it's a NIT and Round of 64 first two years. I said in another thread the other day ... the NIL era Texas wouldn't have signed KD (would have been AJ Dybansta NIL level), Aldridge (nearly same as KD), Tristan Thompson (nearly same as KD), Avery Bradley, Corey Joseph, etc... Texas isn't in that NIL playground. Texas only got Austin Goosby because he's a UT family and took half to turn down BYU and Duke. That wouldn't have happened with any other the guys mentioned above. Unless things change on an NIL front for Texas basketball, they have to play in a different sandbox in terms of building a roster the correct way. He's going to have to likely catch lightening in a bottle a few times in the tier 2-3 NIL world of college hoops. The problem with the job at Texas is there is an expectation of signing the top high school prospect, or a couple in the state on annual basis. Those are expensive, and will take away from portal NIL funds on some level. A Texas A&M doesn't have that expectation on the HS level, so they can approach things differently. Imagine if Texas had decided to not go on Austin Goosby and save more for portal NIL ... reaction would have been pretty negative. Texas is expected to be right there for Marcus Spears Jr. ... the pressure will build to sign him, and it won't be cheap. That could well hurt Texas total roster build for that year, as things currently stand. It's why I'm so frustrated with these threads ... the expectations are truly out of whack in year one, and maybe over time. Why do people think Sean Miller didn't bring Swain and Ryan Conwell with him? Only had the juice for one of them. L'ville NIL'ed Conwell for 2.4 mill plus a signing bonus. Texas doesn't have near that level of NIL to work with to invest up to 6-7 mill in top three players, and still be able to retain or truly build a program.

I share the same disdain for the political themed thread. I come here for football. I do however wonder if you keep the same energy of calling people who you don’t know but disagree with Betas in person as you do from behind your keyboard/phone. Politics, name calling, and categorizing people as inferior are all things/content I can get anywhere if I want to. I’d prefer not to get any of it here.

Yep + A&M will throw whatever money Elko asks for. Florida and Auburn have the “honeymoon phase” with Summerall and Golesh, so they’ll get big money. And Kirby is Kirby.

In theory, I don’t disagree. But I also watched this same program keep Shaka Smart for 5 years when he did nothing to deserve to stay that long. RT got 2 years when everyone knew nothing was being “built.” While I think you’re right that Texas, as a fanbase, is way too impatient, I think basketball is a sport where a trigger won’t get pulled prematurely. Now, the problem will be NIL support (if donors think program is stalling), but I also think CDC is good at circling the wagons and making sure coaches get what they need (why he’s one of the best). Miller has already shown he can find gems (Swain), also shown he can sign and develop high-star recruits (Gordon, Ayton, etc.) People have also seen what this team can be, hell, we saw it for 35 minutes tonight. While I agree there is an instant gratification, I think most people (donors included) see that there is *something* there. The only thing that will threaten Miller, IMO, is if A&M takes another step next year (which I don’t think happens).

Recruiting in the Peach State is even more interesting now. Florida is going to hit the state incredibly hard. They are in on all those guys (except Albright), Travis Williams at Texas A&M is going to be a potential problem in recruiting, and he's all over the state (recruited the state hard for a decade and good at it). Muschamp and Kenny Baker all over the state, and Auburn's new staff is absolutely all in on the state as always Georgia will get the majority of guys they want, as long as Kirby is there. Then it comes down to which schools can snag the right guys.

I want all of em need to put a padlock on Deep South recruiting

Get what your saying and it's correct, but Golden is going to be a Hall of Fame level coach if he stays in college long enough. He's special IMO. He also went 16-17 year one, and lost in Round of 64 year two. He legitimately built a program (part of it was learning on job quickly and lack of NIL compared to blue bloods and major programs) ... Hough was a 3-star, Reuben C. was a lowly recruited guy to Wash State and portaled, Alex Condon was an undervalued 3-star from Aussi, Klavchar was a 3-star from Slovakia, etc... not a McDonald's AA on the team last year. Guys developed over time. There just isn't patience like that for program building anyone, sadly. It's super inflated instant gratification, no matter if a team/program is a top 5 NIL team or top 35-40 NIL team. If Sean Miller takes three years to build a sustainable program, Texas fans will have given up and want him fired. Just reality.

Muschamp being in all these recruitments is unreal. Love having a DC that recruits tenaciously like Boom does.

I'll say this ... having seen: LB/EDGE Jabarrius Garror (Vigor) DB Ai'King Hall (Dothan) LB Jeremiah Culpepper (Troup County) CB Aamaury Fountain (Northside) LB Ja'Bois Smith (Swainsboro) S Jernard Albright (Effingham County) And Isaac Wilson (Vigor), who Texas is still recruiting Haven't seen one yet on this trip that I think is a mistake from a prospect stand point.

Second game he has done this. Pointless to say anything. Just going to watch the team.

I’m sure they will, but a 10-15% chance is absurd lol.

A&M will be ready and waiting. Texas can certainly win that game, but I am not counting on it.

As I’ve said before, this is why year 1 is important. Not from the perspective of “hey, we need to make a Sweet 16,” but “hey, can we see what this could be.” I can’t imagine Todd Golden got a massive NIL commitment when he got to Florida. Florida also spends a sh*t ton on football and a great amount on baseball. It’s really not hard seeing Texas get to that point. Miller just has to show it, which I think he has.

The boys fought hard and kept it close for a long time.

And I agree. It pisses me off that we have a top ten coach that is expected to get great players at flea market prices.

Whatever man. I had the tournament as the bar to start the season. This is the second game you have done this. Not much to respond to. Pope is a massive liability on defense. Coach Miller is talking about him specifically when he talks about defense. I guess pointing that out is wrong. I have said Mark is hot and cold and he is. Not sure how that means he sucks. Are we not allowed to be critical of players?

Well then I guess Vegas was way off because they had it at +6 Florida. I think you’re greatly overestimating A&M, who I’ve watched get boat raced 4 out of the last 5 games.

Miller is a damn good coach. An elite coach IMO. 4 E8's and 8 Sweet 16's speak for itself. All depends on if Texas comes through in NIL. Agents love to use Texas to maximize dollars. If not, will be tough to maximize. Just being real. Otherwise, you have to catch lightening in a bottle on some lesser NIL guys. Just the way it works.

I mean sure. I’m not bashing on coaching. As you said, the team just isn’t that good. A thirteen point swing in three minutes is hot garbage regardless of the circumstances.

If you din't think Florida was going to win by double digits, not sure what to say. Florida was the absolute worst matchup for Texas. They negated Texas' strength as a team. The only team that truly can. A&M is a chance, like 10-15% Arkansas is a bad matchup for Texas.

I dont think anyone thought they would win but reading your post why has your tone changed so much ? You were so high on miller which ill be real I wasnt but now I am. You seem very doubtful now that this program will become something and you didnt sound like that last offseason when we hired him ? maybe I am reading into it too much but u dont seem as positive. I also dont get the doubt on NIL you yourself have said that agents are calling texas and we have a top 10 recruiting class coming in. I think miller could have this team be a top 16 team each year and the signs are there and hes started bringing talent so your tone seems shifted. I could also care less if we make tournament this first year as long as he makes it next year which I think he will. Terry left this roster is very bad shape