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Both parts are true, and I get the Arch hate but the whole operation sucks major ass, and Sarks situational play calling has been terrible. We have two multi millionaire coaches at the forefront of this, and they haven’t figured a damn thing out. Saying Arch is the main source of all failures is just a shallow and nonsensical take. He does take the brunt of it but let’s face reality, Sark hasn’t been a good developer of QBs so what makes us think KJ Lacey is any better? What makes us think that Sark and Aj have actually taught him the right things? Also our WRs aren’t even open all the time, man to man has killed us this year because none of them are particularly great separators. When it’s this bad, QB woes are far from the only issue, that’s a fact

If the Duke University Blue Devils Men’s College Basketball Team does not go 41-0, I will be disappointed.

Wild

ITS ARCH FAULT! Wrong!!

Despite that Arch missed open receivers when we were forced to pass. Given all the misses and inability to react to the blitz, defenses saw they could load the box and blitz the gaps all day long.

E CD bc It’s more of teams started loading the boxes on our OL bc the right side can’t block. Thats a statistical fact. Arch has been bad terrible no doubt but look at the film OTF has show us. We got guys blocking each other and all of Baker, Melvin and Robertson have all been pushed around and bullied for 4 straight games starting against UTSA. The run isn’t working period because our OL is also terrible and that’s a systemic issue and it starts with Flood and Sark. Those are the guys they put out there to win and they clearly weren’t ready. Also Quinn had better teams around him, better OL and better WRs. Coleman, Wingo and Mosley are no where near as good as our WRs of the past

Duke is scary

You remember Gus Malzon? HS coach to OC, Chad Morris, Art Briles, Mike Leach, Hugh Freeze, Phillip Montgomery, Jeff Tarylor, there are plenty of success stories, none with the on field results of Surratt. You reference a Hs Coach that went to Head Coach of ND. I'm talking about OC and play caller, big difference.

It’s looking like less and less of a coincidence that our running game found life after Arch started hitting passes against Oh St. And it happened in that order, not the other way around.

Quinn didn’t have a running game after Brooks went down against TCU in 2023. And only a marginal one in 2024, yet we still went to the national semis. I’ll take failures like that all day long compared to the Arch era.

Idk why it’s such big debate and caused a fight but ALL points are right both Arch and Scheme wise. When the OL does do their job and block well Arch is holding onto the ball too long and fails to read the field or check down to the wide open guy for a first. Let’s not forget he has thrown past the LOS 3 times this year which is an embarrassment for any 4th year QB to do. But the OL is a major issue in itself and these blitz’s aren’t getting checked properly which does fall on the QB/C combination which has been putrid communication and blocking wise. But at the same time Sark should know that the right side of the pocket can’t block and collapses more than the left side so Sark has gotta find a way to use the Left side of the field as the main source of movement. These constant runs to the right are killing us and haven’t worked all year. Sark scheme is decent but not suited for the Talent level Arch is playing at right now as well so he as an HC should make that read and adjust accordingly but he hasn’t. Unfortunately this years issues have been a mix of all 3 OL, QB, and Sark being bad in tandem. Because some plays are schemed up super well but either the OL fails to block someone or Arch throws a meatball sub to a ghost. A new QB could help mask these issues if he sees the field better, it’s proven to work at the highest of levels. So I agree with all points bc guess what the ENTIRE operation is bad, and unfortunately Arch is the QB and a good QB play can help these things. But he has been terrible and that’s proven on tape. Like I said though at the same time Sark should have changed the playbook up for a bad OL that can’t block or do pulls and a QB who is just not a good football player rn

I agree Arch is not playing well, but Quinn had a running game. The running game is non-existent. Sark even said Florida didn’t hit that many big runs but they end with 90 something yards rushing. He is not willing to take 3 yard runs, he is always measuring success by explosive plays.

Not sure I understand how KJ Lacey would be any better behind the same porous OL? If Sark doesn't adjust the line calls or go to a quick passing game (like Florida did), we will lose more games. No matter the QB. .

Any word on who is taking first team reps at center?

I thought our offense under Quinn was very good when we had Brooks and Blue together. And remained competent even when Brooks got hurt and Baxter never getting back to full speed. The difference this year is Arch.

Deron Rippey is going to be hard to keep off the court

Just know it's a flex and time between 2:30 and 3:30 that afternoon. I would guess there would be a drone show with the time change and being dark. Plus last home game of the year. Because we are definitely not hosting a playoff game the way we look now.

I’m afraid Ole Miss has dawgs up front and Arch will hold onto ball too long and Sark makes a change to KJ. Feels like it’s coming.

Everyone blamed Quinn for the offensive woes and wanted Arch. Now everyone wants KJ. When is everyone going to hold the OC and position coaches accountable. There is a development issue on the offensive side of the ball.

If you do lose it will you change your handle to LiveStrong

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Run Arch 12-15 times on zone reads and RPOs. We need him to derive confidence from being physical.

Bye bye, pumpkin.

Isn’t it wild how our running game picked up once Arch started hitting passes against Oh St?

Ok so not a real conversation. Have a good night