DLev Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 21 hours ago, yoyocc said: The standards are going to be totally different in the future. Schedules will be a step function more difficult than what we're used to. 10-2 may be the new 12-0. 9-3 could be elite if they beat Michigan and Georgia, but drop Red River and A&M games. I will hunt you down if this happens. We will not drop those two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40acres Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Final 4 will be the elite IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrancoBevo3.0 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 To me, if you hit or exceed 77 wins in 7 years, your program is elite. That’s an 11 wins per season average including bowl and playoff wins along the way. In your list, Ohio State and up are elite in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashtag Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) 10 hours ago, FrancoBevo3.0 said: To me, if you hit or exceed 77 wins in 7 years, your program is elite. That’s an 11 wins per season average including bowl and playoff wins along the way. In your list, Ohio State and up are elite in my book. But what if you have no titles to show? IMO winning a national title is what truly makes you elite. If you get to your achieved goal and have nothing to show for it then you're just underachieving. Do you currently consider Penn State elite? Edited May 16 by Hashtag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrancoBevo3.0 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 On 5/16/2024 at 8:10 AM, Hashtag said: But what if you have no titles to show? IMO winning a national title is what truly makes you elite. If you get to your achieved goal and have nothing to show for it then you're just underachieving. Do you currently consider Penn State elite? Penn State isn’t on the list with 77 wins the last 7 years so no, I wouldn’t consider them elite. I don’t think you HAVE to win a national title to be considered elite. At that point, luck plays a part, but if your program has won 77 over 7 years, it’s going to be a very short list and yes, I’d consider that short list the elite of college football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashtag Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, FrancoBevo3.0 said: Penn State isn’t on the list with 77 wins the last 7 years so no, I wouldn’t consider them elite. I don’t think you HAVE to win a national title to be considered elite. At that point, luck plays a part, but if your program has won 77 over 7 years, it’s going to be a very short list and yes, I’d consider that short list the elite of college football. Being elite and winning titles is what separates great teams from elite teams. Plain and simple. If you don't win titles you shouldn't be considered elite. What you're describing is a good to great team, not an elite team. Notre Dame under Brian Kelly was good to great. Oregon in the 2010s was good to great Oklahoma in that same time period was good to great. None of the above I'd consider elite. Elite teams during that time period were Bama, Clemson, and Ohio St. Edited May 17 by Hashtag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Great teams win a lot of games. Elite teams win championships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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