Texasborn91 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 6 minutes ago, Thanos72 said: Cop reached into his car which isn’t legal but probable cause is a joke now. This is happening more and more because folks like you give them a pass. Sorry it’s Scottie but he’s not a minority so maybe folks will get how it’s no longer a small minority of cops that abuse or overstep their authority. They see blue, not laws. They often are the escalators/instigators in situations but are then surprised by people’s reactions. In short, too many “bullies” have found a home within law enforcement. It’s a real issue. Wake up. You weren’t there so you don’t know. I’m far form being a gate keeper for cops. But if you peel off from a cop while the cop is near the vehicle then what happens happens…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanos72 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 21 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said: You weren’t there so you don’t know. I’m far form being a gate keeper for cops. But if you peel off from a cop while the cop is near the vehicle then what happens happens…. That’s the point. I don’t care who you are, someone comes into your car space is escalating a situation. A human is going to have an involuntary reflex, maybe panic. It’s the modern day entrapment. Baiting you into a reaction. A badge doesn’t change in the moment survival instincts. That you take at face value the characterization that Scottie just drive off is a form of gate keeping. I’m not calling you out and regret using the dumb phrase “people like you”. I apologize for that. It’s lazy and unnecessarily antagonizing. I’m frustrated that sacred cows trump right and wrong. Today’s LEO is vastly different because today’s human is and we need to be honest and better about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Recruiter Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Unfortunate situation all the way around. My guess is that once all the power entities get together, all charges will be dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrancoBevo3.0 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 hour ago, Jordan91 said: I think they did their job, but the charges and what’s on the video do not match. The officer telling the media to back up does not have an ego. He told the reporter to back up, he came forward again to say something. Officer told him again to back up. He told him the person was going to jail. And then started talking to the reporter. Sorry, I just don’t see it. A failure to understand the flow of traffic at an accident doesn’t really warrant screaming, yelling, throwing someone against a car and hand cuffs. Just way over the top. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasborn91 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 hour ago, Thanos72 said: That’s the point. I don’t care who you are, someone comes into your car space is escalating a situation. A human is going to have an involuntary reflex, maybe panic. It’s the modern day entrapment. Baiting you into a reaction. A badge doesn’t change in the moment survival instincts. That you take at face value the characterization that Scottie just drive off is a form of gate keeping. I’m not calling you out and regret using the dumb phrase “people like you”. I apologize for that. It’s lazy and unnecessarily antagonizing. I’m frustrated that sacred cows trump right and wrong. Today’s LEO is vastly different because today’s human is and we need to be honest and better about that. It’s not entrapment… he’s a rich white dude that was driving where he wasn’t supposed to then failed to yield to law enforcement. Sorry… but you can’t always move the goalposts for ppl when they make mistakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Scottie released a statement that seems to clear up reports of what happened. Hopefully it all gets solved soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETXHorn Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Here's my take for what it's worth... (exactly nothing) --- We have all been to these types of events -- In the rain and the dark - shouldn't the officer, who was there to help control the area for the traffic fatality, have been in a MARKED yellow rain jacket? WE have all seen these "traffic helpers" (private security) at these events not know how to handle traffic - IF the officer had been in marked attire I'm confident the situation would have been different. Security guards do NOT have the same protection, and authority that the police have. Nor do they have the training. WE deal with these type of people on an occasional basis -- The tour players deal with these type of people on a week in and week out schedule. Scheffler who is above and beyond considerate (He was signing autographs well into the late evening until the last person in line was gone as can be seen on the golf Chanel last night) was in a marked player car - reportedly stopped as the officer banged on the car with his flashlight... as he was trying to enter the facility road that was specifically for players or high ranking personnel. The officer, should have been made aware of the situation and location -- With that in mind - Scotty should have been more aware as well. A Sad day for the tournament (death of a worker) - compounded by this public débâcle will hopefully work itself out with cooler heads prevailing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Ramirez Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 First, my thoughts and prayers go out to the family of the man who was killed earlier. Second, the statement released by Scottie’s attorney is interesting. Contradicts earlier statements. ” Due to the combination of event traffic and a traffic fatality in the area it was a very chaotic situation. He was proceeding as directed by another traffic officer and driving a marked player’s vehicle with credentials visible. In the confusion, Scottie is alleged to have disregarded a different officer’s traffic signals resulting in these charges. Multiple eyewitnesses have confirmed that he did not do anything wrong but was simply proceeding as directed. He stopped immediately upon being directed to and never at any point assaulted any officer with his vehicle. We will litigate this matter as needed and he will be completely exonerated.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasborn91 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 hour ago, Tuco Ramirez said: First, my thoughts and prayers go out to the family of the man who was killed earlier. Second, the statement released by Scottie’s attorney is interesting. Contradicts earlier statements. ” Due to the combination of event traffic and a traffic fatality in the area it was a very chaotic situation. He was proceeding as directed by another traffic officer and driving a marked player’s vehicle with credentials visible. In the confusion, Scottie is alleged to have disregarded a different officer’s traffic signals resulting in these charges. Multiple eyewitnesses have confirmed that he did not do anything wrong but was simply proceeding as directed. He stopped immediately upon being directed to and never at any point assaulted any officer with his vehicle. We will litigate this matter as needed and he will be completely exonerated.” His attorney said that?!? Then it must be true!! I have no dog in the fight, but if that’s what happened I doubt they would have arrested him, let alone booked him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanos72 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 3 hours ago, Texasborn91 said: It’s not entrapment… he’s a rich white dude that was driving where he wasn’t supposed to then failed to yield to law enforcement. Sorry… but you can’t always move the goalposts for ppl when they make mistakes But no gatekeeper, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarrantCoHorn Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Total meat head cop. Police report was complete BS. Thankfully media was on hand and saw it all go down. I imagine this gets dropped 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marathon Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 11 hours ago, TarrantCoHorn said: Total meat head cop. Police report was complete BS. Thankfully media was on hand and saw it all go down. I imagine this gets dropped The police were working a traffic fatality in the dark and rain. From the accounts I have read there was confusion and it was a rather chaotic scene. No one could have anticipated or expected a fatality and there were additional police present that they hadn’t planned for. In the confusion it sounds like there was plenty of blame to go around. Scheffler handled it with class….like we have all come to expect. I think he was in shock because he thought he was doing the right thing and was arrested. Sounds like he was told one thing by one police officer and something different by another police officer. I think the felony charge is overboard though and hopefully they will drop the charges and realize it was a tragic situation made even worse by the arrest. Meanwhile, a guy crossing the street in the dark to work the tournament is dead. That is where we should focus…and exactly what Scheffler did. His situation will get resolved, the family of the killed worker is now planning a funeral. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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