Zacharyhorn Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 I have a two part question that I was hoping that Gerry, Bobby or CJ could discuss. Either on Coffee & Football or in this tread if they are able. Anyone else for that matter who cares to provide their thoughts and insight would be welcomed. After listening to Gerry & CJ on the recruiting breakdown yesterday, it got me thinking about our quarterback of the future. Quinn will be gone after the 2024 season. We all assume that Arch will be the starter for 2025 & 2026 season. What about 2027? I say 2027 because neither of Arch’s uncles declared early for the draft. Both stayed to finish out their eligibility I believe. Unlike Quinn who skipped his senior year to start his NFL clock early, Arch seems to want to enjoy his college experience and playing college football. With that being the case, how far out is it that Arch may stay for four or even five years? Technically, he redshirted last year. So that would mean he is entering the 2024 season as a redshirt freshman. Now, if UT goes on a wins a national championship in either 2024 or 2025, he would not really have a reason to return. However, depending on the talent around him, do you think Arch may use all his eligibility? I know most guys would bolt for NFL money, but the Mannings are on a different timeline than most people. Which brings me to my second question. Who out of Bell or Lacy would be the next man up? Not discounting Trey Owens as he is currently on campus. But out of Lacy and Bell, who is more talented to run Sarks offense? Who is more likely to still be around in 2027? Dia Bell has only been committed for a short period of time, but he strikes me as someone who may be willing to be a bit more patient than Lacy. I only say this because Lacy was looking around after he committed to UT. I know he has firmed up his commitment recently, but if Arch was to stay until 2027, would Lacy be willing to wait that long to take over. I would say no, but just curious what everyone else thinks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gerry Hamilton Posted July 25 Moderators Share Posted July 25 I will get back to you on this Thursday for sure! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Handler Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Trey Owens was pretty impressive in the Spring game. I don't see lacy beating him out. But, alot can happen in 3 years... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarrantCoHorn Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 I remember back when I was in college not wanting Andrew Luck to mess up the Garrett Gilbert recruitment. LOL. Keep stacking quality QBs and I’ll be happy. Sarks killing it. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horns96 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 I'm eager to hear Gerry's responses, but I have to laugh after the going through 13 years with no depth at QB and sometimes barely a viable starter. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horns96 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) Also, off the top of my head, here's a list of 4⭐ + QBs at Texas that never developed into bona fide sustained starters over the last 15 years - GG (transfer) David Ash (injuries) Tyrone Swoopes Jerrod Heard Shane Beuchele (transfer) Hudson Card (transfer) Maalik Murphy (transfer) We all want these QB commits to make it to UT and succeed, but the hit rate is not 100%. Edited July 25 by horns96 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveycmd Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 I think Lacy is the odd man out. After Arch we either go to Owens or Bell. If Arch stays to play three years, it's probably straight to Bell. If Arch stays two years, I say Owens for a year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Lala Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Great question. I've been thinking about this also. I think it's quite possible that Arch plays 3 years at Texas, given the way the Mannings view developing. If that happens, I would think KJ and Trey both portal out, leaving Dia,and of course Sark will keep bringing in quality at that position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatdude2 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 9 hours ago, TarrantCoHorn said: I remember back when I was in college not wanting Andrew Luck to mess up the Garrett Gilbert recruitment. LOL. Keep stacking quality QBs and I’ll be happy. Sarks killing it. Seen Luck play in person, and I was like ‘Stanford has another Elway’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Lane Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 9 hours ago, horns96 said: Also, off the top of my head, here's a list of 4⭐ + QBs at Texas that never developed into bona fide sustained starters over the last 15 years - GG (transfer) David Ash (injuries) Tyrone Swoopes Jerrod Heard Shane Beuchele (transfer) Hudson Card (transfer) Maalik Murphy (transfer) We all want these QB commits to make it to UT and succeed, but the hit rate is not 100%. You're not kidding! I live through all that and more. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Schrader Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 1 hour ago, Adam Lane said: You're not kidding! I live through all that and more. Ash would have been great. OL got him near killed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacharyhorn Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 1 hour ago, Adam Lane said: You're not kidding! I live through all that and more. With each of those quarterback’s listed above, they did not have a lot of time to develop. They were kind of thrust into a situation that was not great for them or us. As Sark has said, you need time to mature as a quarterback. Long gone are the days of a quarterback taking there first meaningful snaps their redshirt sophomore or junior season. Now, if they are not starting by their freshman or sophomore year they are hitting the portal. David Ash had a lot of potential, but he had multiple concussions during his time at Texas. That was do in part to how bad our offensive line had become and him having no protection. Swoopes could have been good if he had more time to develop and mature. But that was not the case back then. Same for our offensive linemen. Back then, if you were somewhat serviceable you were starting for us. Sark has Texas on the right track now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Lane Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 3 minutes ago, Steven Schrader said: Ash would have been great. OL got him near killed. That whole time period was brutal for our QBs. They were all punished due to a dearth of quality OLs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators CJ Vogel Posted July 25 Moderators Share Posted July 25 It's an interesting question. I would have to be absolutely certain that either is definitively a better option than Trey Owens. He has continued beyond the spring game to be an impressive young arm for Texas this offseason. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Moore Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) Provided health remains intact here’s how I see it playing out: 2024: Ewers 2025: Arch 2026: Arch 2027: Owens 2028: Owens 2029: Bell 2030: Bell I believe Lacey will eventually transfer Edited July 25 by John Moore 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Lane Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 2 minutes ago, John Moore said: Provided health remains intact here’s how I see it playing out: 2024: Ewers 2025: Arch 2026: Arch 2027: Owens 2028: Owens 2029: Bell 2030: Bell I believe Lacey will eventually transfer Just for fun. What if it was Russell instead of KJ? His stock is through the roof right now. Funny how it all shakes out....you know? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Five Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 We're talking about what will happen three years, with guys that are still in high school. Who knows. Could be none of them. Could be a portal dude. Sark could be coaching the Dallas Cowboys, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacharyhorn Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 12 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said: It's an interesting question. I would have to be absolutely certain that either is definitively a better option than Trey Owens. He has continued beyond the spring game to be an impressive young arm for Texas this offseason. Exactly. I only said KJ & Dia because there is a lot more hype around them than there was Trey. Plus, they seem to have a lot more pull with other recruits than Owens did coming out of high school. Which does not mean anything once they are on campus. Owens could be the starter after Arch is gone and with enough talent around him, lead UT to a national championship. I would welcome any form of the above as our future starter if that means we are competing for championships. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Lane Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 23 minutes ago, Zacharyhorn said: Exactly. I only said KJ & Dia because there is a lot more hype around them than there was Trey. Plus, they seem to have a lot more pull with other recruits than Owens did coming out of high school. Which does not mean anything once they are on campus. Owens could be the starter after Arch is gone and with enough talent around him, lead UT to a national championship. I would welcome any form of the above as our future starter if that means we are competing for championships. Absolutely!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcook91 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 I have no opinion on who's next but would clarify one thing that you said. Manning will start two years, which I guess could start this year if Quinn is injured or struggles. The reason he will start two years is that the bust rate for NFL quarterbacks who only start one season in college is very high. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoHorns1 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 14 hours ago, Derek Handler said: Trey Owens was pretty impressive in the Spring game. I don't see lacy beating him out. But, alot can happen in 3 years... Got a feeling Trey Owens won’t seat for three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Lane Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 13 minutes ago, robertcook91 said: I have no opinion on who's next but would clarify one thing that you said. Manning will start two years, which I guess could start this year if Quinn is injured or struggles. The reason he will start two years is that the bust rate for NFL quarterbacks who only start one season in college is very high. I think he stays through his eligibility.....It's the Manning way! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jc Dobbs Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 On 7/25/2024 at 3:23 AM, harveycmd said: I think Lacy is the odd man out. After Arch we either go to Owens or Bell. If Arch stays to play three years, it's probably straight to Bell. If Arch stays two years, I say Owens for a year. Realizing my comment is unfair... Lacey just looks far too small. I know he's got time to develop, but he appears borderline frail. It just shows how much credit Sark gets for identifying these players so early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGBIII Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 On 7/25/2024 at 11:12 AM, John Moore said: Provided health remains intact here’s how I see it playing out: 2024: Ewers 2025: Arch 2026: Arch 2027: Owens 2028: Owens 2029: Bell 2030: Bell I believe Lacey will eventually transfer I believe this is the plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERShorn Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 On 7/25/2024 at 3:23 AM, harveycmd said: I think Lacy is the odd man out. After Arch we either go to Owens or Bell. If Arch stays to play three years, it's probably straight to Bell. If Arch stays two years, I say Owens for a year. Hard to see Owen’s sitting for 3 years w his talent level. I think he portals out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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