bierce Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 2 minutes ago, justwinbaby said: Losing to Michigan four years in a row is fireable for Ohio State. Michigan would say that their season is salvaged with a bad record if they beat Ohio State. Some don’t understand what this rivalry is in the Midwest, and I live in the Midwest with people who are fans of both sides. Yeah, whatever. Did Mack Brown get canned for losing to OU 5 straight years? Did Cooper get fired for his 0-5-1 stretch? No, he got fired a few years later, after tOSU managed a 14-10 record and finished unranked over two seasons. Day might not have the fanbase on his side, but it is ridiculous to say he has to win the natty or he's gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwinbaby Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 12 minutes ago, bierce said: Yeah, whatever. Did Mack Brown get canned for losing to OU 5 straight years? Did Cooper get fired for his 0-5-1 stretch? No, he got fired a few years later, after tOSU managed a 14-10 record and finished unranked over two seasons. Day might not have the fanbase on his side, but it is ridiculous to say he has to win the natty or he's gone. You’re not getting this rivalry. There are no other games for either Michigan or Ohio State that matter more than the game against each other. Michigan couldn’t care less about Michigan State and Ohio State doesn’t really care about Penn State. These are the eternal rivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horns96 Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 6 minutes ago, justwinbaby said: You’re not getting this rivalry. There are no other games for either Michigan or Ohio State that matter more than the game against each other. Michigan couldn’t care less about Michigan State and Ohio State doesn’t really care about Penn State. These are the eternal rivals. IDMAS in Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 3 minutes ago, justwinbaby said: You’re not getting this rivalry. There are no other games for either Michigan or Ohio State that matter more than the game against each other. Michigan couldn’t care less about Michigan State and Ohio State doesn’t really care about Penn State. These are the eternal rivals. And you're still ignoring the fact that Cooper didn't get fired for going 6 years without beating Michigan. He got fired for having back to back sucky seasons. Any AD who is more interested in winning a rivalry game than in the strength of the program doesn't get the big picture and should be s***canned himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Leininger Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 1 hour ago, Texas71 said: Urban recently said he is not interested in coaching again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qaertyisthatdude Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 (edited) 10 minutes ago, bierce said: And you're still ignoring the fact that Cooper didn't get fired for going 6 years without beating Michigan. He got fired for having back to back sucky seasons. Any AD who is more interested in winning a rivalry game than in the strength of the program doesn't get the big picture and should be s***canned himself. It was a combination of both bad seasons in addition to losing to Michigan that did John Cooper in. Would I love to see Texas beat OU, A&M, and Arky every year for the rest of my life? Yes. Is it the end of the world if they lose to them sometimes? No. Because there's 9 other regular season games you have to win to accomplish bigger goals. Beating your rivals is fun, but have to remember the big picture. I thank God every day DeLoss Dodds didn't pull the plug on Mack Brown when he was getting his butt kicked in the early to mid 2000s by Bob Stoops. Because the 2010-2022 down period would've occurred much earlier this century and Texas would still be looking for a national title since 1970. Edited December 10 by qaertyisthatdude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 2 minutes ago, qaertyisthatdude said: It was a combination of both bad seasons in addition to losing to Michigan that did John Cooper in. Would I love to see Texas beat OU, A&M, and Arky every year for the rest of my life? Yes. Is it the end of the world if they lose to them sometimes? No. Because there's 9 other regular season games you have to win to accomplish bigger goals. Beating your rivals is fun, but have to remember the big picture. I thank God every day DeLoss Dodds didn't pull the plug on Mack Brown when he was getting his butt kicked in the early to mid 2000s by Bob Stoops. Because the 2010-2022 down period would've occurred much earlier this century and Texas would still be looking for a national title since 1970. It was a combination only when the back to back sucky seasons made it a combination. Cooper finished his career as the tOSU head coach with a 2-10-1 record against Michigan. And they didn't can his ass until he had back to back 6-6 and 8-4 seasons. Firing Day for finishing in the top ten every year but losing to Michigan for 4 straight years would be the height of stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwinbaby Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 34 minutes ago, bierce said: It was a combination only when the back to back sucky seasons made it a combination. Cooper finished his career as the tOSU head coach with a 2-10-1 record against Michigan. And they didn't can his ass until he had back to back 6-6 and 8-4 seasons. Firing Day for finishing in the top ten every year but losing to Michigan for 4 straight years would be the height of stupidity. Go ask Ohio State fans on how they feel about losing to Michigan four years in a row and this last one to a mediocre Michigan team. Ohio State is mentally weak compared to Michigan with Ryan Day. Jim Harbaugh was right about Ryan Day being born on third base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas71 Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 1 hour ago, Neil Leininger said: He would be incredibly stupid to coach again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 5 minutes ago, justwinbaby said: Go ask Ohio State fans on how they feel about losing to Michigan four years in a row and this last one to a mediocre Michigan team. Ohio State is mentally weak compared to Michigan with Ryan Day. Jim Harbaugh was right about Ryan Day being born on third base. I'm sure they feel like crap about it, but do the inmates run the asylum in Columbus? You can't tell me that a home win over Tennessee and a neutral site quarterfinal final win over Oregon won't secure Day's job another season, even if he loses in the semifinals or the finals. Remember, the OP here said Day has to win the natty this year by running the table in the cfp to save his job. That is nuts. You have to be insane to fire a coach who has finished in the top ten seven straight seasons, which will be the result if tOSU wins a single game in the playoffs this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwinbaby Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 13 minutes ago, bierce said: I'm sure they feel like crap about it, but do the inmates run the asylum in Columbus? You can't tell me that a home win over Tennessee and a neutral site quarterfinal final win over Oregon won't secure Day's job another season, even if he loses in the semifinals or the finals. Remember, the OP here said Day has to win the natty this year by running the table in the cfp to save his job. That is nuts. You have to be insane to fire a coach who has finished in the top ten seven straight seasons, which will be the result if tOSU wins a single game in the playoffs this year. Some would argue that Michigan the past four seasons have had teams with less talent than Ohio State, especially this one. Day went all in with Howard as starting QB and an elite team and still couldn’t beat Oregon with an experienced QB who slid with no time on the clock and lost to an inferior Michigan team and get to the Big Ten championship with a golden schedule. Day’s teams have been mentally weak when it comes to the big game against Michigan and been beat up in the past four games. Ohio State is nuts in thinking that Howard would win a Big Ten and take them to a national championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierce Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 1 minute ago, justwinbaby said: Some would argue that Michigan the past four seasons have had teams with less talent than Ohio State, especially this one. Day went all in with Howard as starting QB and an elite team and still couldn’t beat Oregon with an experienced QB who slid with no time on the clock and lost to an inferior Michigan team and get to the Big Ten championship with a golden schedule. Day’s teams have been mentally weak when it comes to the big game against Michigan and been beat up in the past four games. Ohio State is nuts in thinking that Howard would win a Big Ten and take them to a national championship. tOSU was definitely more talented than Michigan this year, but are you really going to make a big distinction between teams ranked 2 and 3 going into the game in the two years before this one? And you are now arguing that a coach who has never finished outside the top ten should be fired because he chose the wrong grad transfer qb? You guys are really reaching here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwinbaby Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 2 minutes ago, bierce said: tOSU was definitely more talented than Michigan this year, but are you really going to make a big distinction between teams ranked 2 and 3 going into the game in the two years before this one? And you are now arguing that a coach who has never finished outside the top ten should be fired because he chose the wrong grad transfer qb? You guys are really reaching here. I’d fire Day for not having mentally tougher teams than Michigan, Michigan beat them up physically and mentally the last three seasons under Jim Harbaugh and this one with a mediocre team. Harbaugh is correct about Day being born on third base and doing less with more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 1 hour ago, bierce said: I'm sure they feel like crap about it, but do the inmates run the asylum in Columbus? You can't tell me that a home win over Tennessee and a neutral site quarterfinal final win over Oregon won't secure Day's job another season, even if he loses in the semifinals or the finals. Remember, the OP here said Day has to win the natty this year by running the table in the cfp to save his job. That is nuts. You have to be insane to fire a coach who has finished in the top ten seven straight seasons, which will be the result if tOSU wins a single game in the playoffs this year. Not arguing your premise at all, but if tOSU were to sh*tcan Day I don't believe that he could build a similar program elsewhere. Day benefitted from Urban being the sleeze that he is and left while the machine was humming. I really believe they win in spite of him. JMO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qaertyisthatdude Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 1 minute ago, southpaw said: Not arguing your premise at all, but if tOSU were to sh*tcan Day I don't believe that he could build a similar program elsewhere. Day benefitted from Urban being the sleeze that he is and left while the machine was humming. I really believe they win in spite of him. JMO Yeah he gives off Lincoln Riley energy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasFanatic Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 3 hours ago, southpaw said: Not arguing your premise at all, but if tOSU were to sh*tcan Day I don't believe that he could build a similar program elsewhere. Day benefitted from Urban being the sleeze that he is and left while the machine was humming. I really believe they win in spite of him. JMO Id prefer not to test this theory at OU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootLaw Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 Day loses to Tennessee and I can see then firing him. His $37mil buyout is a tough hurdle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornOrange Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 We can all trust Ross Bjork to do what is best for the OSU athletic department. https://www.si.com/college/2024/01/17/many-missteps-of-new-ohio-state-athletic-director-ross-bjork 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longhorngreg Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 Day is not getting canned. This is not just a $37 million decision for Day. They also have highly paid assistants which pushes the buyout north of $50 million Then who? Hiring another high level coach and staff is another $125+ million commitment. All of this for a guy who finishes in the Top 10 every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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