Austalgia Posted Saturday at 03:14 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:14 PM Quarterbacks seem to be hard to project. Some you think will do will well, don’t. Some you can’t imagine succeeding, are stars and lead teams to championships. I think Quinn Ewers legacy will be a product of the situation in which he gets drafted. I think we also forget that he graduated early from high school and his trajectory and skills can still go up. He has all the physical tools, but he needs his head right. Maybe some of the injuries got him out of sorts, and never let him become consistent? Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasMDcoach Posted Saturday at 03:24 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:24 PM I agree with all of your points. He is still growing as a QB and a lot will depend on what team he ends up on. If his draft team treats him old school where he can carry a clip board behind an aging veteran a couple of years he could mature into a solid NFL starter. His pocket patience and presence with improve. He is very strong armed and accurate and has the tools to succeed for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatdude2 Posted Saturday at 05:58 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:58 PM If he is a career backup, and takes home 20 million dollars over the next 12 years, is that a success? I would say yes, but then again my occupation is a teacher. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HudGar1922 Posted Saturday at 06:07 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:07 PM put him with sean mcvay or andy reid and i believe he can 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Kingsley Posted Saturday at 06:12 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:12 PM (edited) IMO - Needs to be drafted by coach/team that fully believe in him (true for everyone though, basically) - He needs to add good weight to withstand hits in the NFL - Needs to obsessively work on all the fundamentals of a drop back QB. Footwork, timing, reads, processing quickly, etc. Ditch the desired Mahomes style of play, it won't work for him. Be more like Drew Brees. - Be patient and take the 1-2 years as a backup to possibly turn into a starter. Edited Saturday at 06:13 PM by Hank Kingsley 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austalgia Posted Saturday at 06:23 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 06:23 PM 2 hours ago, TexasMDcoach said: I agree with all of your points. He is still growing as a QB and a lot will depend on what team he ends up on. If his draft team treats him old school where he can carry a clip board behind an aging veteran a couple of years he could mature into a solid NFL starter. His pocket patience and presence with improve. He is very strong armed and accurate and has the tools to succeed for sure. I agree, his biggest problem is his lack of pocket presence and escapability. I’m not so sure this can be taught, but some of that seems to be a mental thing. Maybe he can get better at the improv stuff and be serviceable or even bettwr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austalgia Posted Saturday at 06:29 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 06:29 PM 25 minutes ago, thatdude2 said: If he is a career backup, and takes home 20 million dollars over the next 12 years, is that a success? I would say yes, but then again my occupation is a teacher. i’ve always thought what a great job that would be to be a career backup. Of course the dream would be to start and make the 100s of millions over a career, but to have low hits on your body from NFL defensive lineman and make millions is surely a success in my mind. And you are trusted with the minds and the teaching of our youth. My mom was a high school math teacher in Austin for 48 years. She touched so many lives, and not just in regards to Algebta. Thank you for being a teacher, and I consider that being a teacher for sure a success. And since you are a teacher, sorry I start sentences with the word and. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatdude2 Posted Saturday at 07:44 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:44 PM 1 hour ago, Austalgia said: i’ve always thought what a great job that would be to be a career backup. Of course the dream would be to start and make the 100s of millions over a career, but to have low hits on your body from NFL defensive lineman and make millions is surely a success in my mind. And you are trusted with the minds and the teaching of our youth. My mom was a high school math teacher in Austin for 48 years. She touched so many lives, and not just in regards to Algebta. Thank you for being a teacher, and I consider that being a teacher for sure a success. And since you are a teacher, sorry I start sentences with the word and. 😂 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Moore Posted Saturday at 08:28 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:28 PM 2 hours ago, thatdude2 said: If he is a career backup, and takes home 20 million dollars over the next 12 years, is that a success? I would say yes, but then again my occupation is a teacher. I see this as the best-case scenario. It's going to be tough for a QB that can't drive the ball down the field accurately to have any sustained success. Add in his size and injury history and it's not a great profile for the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NothinButDaHorns34 Posted Saturday at 08:44 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:44 PM Nobody knows that, Not even quinn. Lots of factors will play into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austalgia Posted Saturday at 09:07 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 09:07 PM (edited) 23 minutes ago, NothinButDaHorns34 said: Nobody knows that, Not even quinn. Lots of factors will play into it. So true, if you would have told me that Matt Leinart and Vince Young wouldn’t last in the league, and Kyler Murray and Jaylon Hurts would become franchise QBs I would have said you were crazy, but it’s nice to give useless opinions. Edited Saturday at 09:08 PM by Austalgia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NothinButDaHorns34 Posted Saturday at 10:14 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:14 PM 1 hour ago, Austalgia said: So true, if you would have told me that Matt Leinart and Vince Young wouldn’t last in the league, and Kyler Murray and Jaylon Hurts would become franchise QBs I would have said you were crazy, but it’s nice to give useless opinions. I thought for sure jalen hurts didn’t have the accuracy or arm strength to be a legit NFL QB and he’s one of the best in the league so you never know. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldest Horn Posted Saturday at 10:21 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:21 PM I'm worried about Quinn being able to add good weight. He probably played at 200 (or less) this year. That won’t cut it in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorn007 Posted Sunday at 04:11 AM Share Posted Sunday at 04:11 AM injury prone and he flings the ball. flinging not good for the deep ball/ crazy to say but needs to maybe get a qb coach lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmk4pres Posted Sunday at 04:18 AM Share Posted Sunday at 04:18 AM I think he will be eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashtag Posted Sunday at 01:29 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:29 PM 16 hours ago, Austalgia said: So true, if you would have told me that Matt Leinart and Vince Young wouldn’t last in the league, and Kyler Murray and Jaylon Hurts would become franchise QBs I would have said you were crazy, but it’s nice to give useless opinions. 15 hours ago, NothinButDaHorns34 said: I thought for sure jalen hurts didn’t have the accuracy or arm strength to be a legit NFL QB and he’s one of the best in the league so you never know. The thing with Vince and many QBs like him from the 90s and 00s is that the nfl offenses forced a square peg into a round hole. NFL offenses now days are better built for him and others of that skill set 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austalgia Posted Sunday at 02:57 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 02:57 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Hashtag said: The thing with Vince and many QBs like him from the 90s and 00s is that the nfl offenses forced a square peg into a round hole. NFL offenses now days are better built for him and others of that skill set Yeah, Jeff Fischer did not have the foresight or innovation to adapt an offense to a QB like Vince. If he would have thought outside the box a little, he might have had a Lamar Jackson type QB way before the Ravens. Mack had been Laissez-faire with Vince and let him play. In the NFL you can’t really do that in a sense, but the off schedule play is almost undefendable with Vince. There could have been some options to use Vince’s strengths and less rigidity. Fischer never wanted Vince, and he cut off his nose to spite his own face by being a jerk, and it does go both ways, Vince didn’t necessarily respond so well. Edited Sunday at 02:59 PM by Austalgia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashtag Posted Sunday at 03:07 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:07 PM 9 minutes ago, Austalgia said: Yeah, Jeff Fischer did not have the foresight or innovation to adapt an offense to a QB like Vince. If he would have thought outside the box a little, he might have had a Lamar Jackson type QB way before the Ravens. Mack had been Laissez-faire with Vince and let him play. In the NFL you can’t really do that in a sense, but the off schedule play is almost undefendable with Vince. There could have been some options to use Vince’s strengths and less rigidity. Fischer never wanted Vince, and he cut off his nose to spite his own face by being a jerk, and it does go both ways, Vince didn’t necessarily respond so well. It’s beyond Fisher though. The whole league was not innovative at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austalgia Posted Sunday at 03:17 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 03:17 PM (edited) 14 minutes ago, Hashtag said: It’s beyond Fisher though. The whole league was not innovative at the time. Right, I agree it wasn’t common, but there was Michael Vick and Randall Cunningham that had success. So there was some precedent, but your right most of the NFL back then would have coached Mahomes out of the side angle throws and ruined him as well. Fischer would have been the worst. He was very rigid and didn’t want Vince in the first place, so he didn’t even try to maximize his talent. Edited Sunday at 03:24 PM by Austalgia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Moore Posted Sunday at 04:58 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:58 PM 18 hours ago, Oldest Horn said: I'm worried about Quinn being able to add good weight. He probably played at 200 (or less) this year. That won’t cut it in the NFL. If I were evaluating for the NFL my biggest concern would be his inability to accurately throw it beyond 20 yards consistently. That will most certainly get you killed. If there's no vertical threat and every player on the other side of the ball is an NFL player, not just some, he'll get eaten up and be incredibly easy to gameplan against. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldest Horn Posted Sunday at 05:25 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:25 PM 20 hours ago, Austalgia said: So true, if you would have told me that Matt Leinart and Vince Young wouldn’t last in the league, and Kyler Murray and Jaylon Hurts would become franchise QBs I would have said you were crazy, but it’s nice to give useless opinions. NFL network did a feature on the 2005 NC game featuring Vince and Matt after their NFL careers were over. Both admitted to not putting in the work necessary for the job in the NFL. Vince certainly wasn’t dealt any favors going to Tenn and Fisher though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldest Horn Posted Sunday at 05:25 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:25 PM 27 minutes ago, John Moore said: If I were evaluating for the NFL my biggest concern would be his inability to accurately throw it beyond 20 yards consistently. That will most certainly get you killed. If there's no vertical threat and every player on the other side of the ball is an NFL player, not just some, he'll get eaten up and be incredibly easy to gameplan against. That too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornsUpThumbsDown Posted Monday at 02:10 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:10 AM On 2/1/2025 at 9:14 AM, Austalgia said: Quarterbacks seem to be hard to project. Some you think will do will well, don’t. Some you can’t imagine succeeding, are stars and lead teams to championships. I think Quinn Ewers legacy will be a product of the situation in which he gets drafted. I think we also forget that he graduated early from high school and his trajectory and skills can still go up. He has all the physical tools, but he needs his head right. Maybe some of the injuries got him out of sorts, and never let him become consistent? Thoughts? He’ll be a success, dude is 21 years old and a heck of a QB and from what I can tell 1st class at UT and how he handled himself and the situations. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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