Hoops: Texas at South Carolina Game Thread

[harveycmd]

Just now, Oldest Horn said:

Or, they had a situation where a high profile, highly paid employee who, based on their investigation, committed domestic violence, and fired him for cause.
 

I don’t know what politics would have created a different outcome. 

You're saying their investigation superseded the statements of the parties involved? Again, charges were recanted and dropped. I didn't know CDC was clairvoyant. 

[GoHorns1]

2 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

Or, they had a situation where a high profile, highly paid employee who, based on their investigation, committed domestic violence, and fired him for cause.
 

I don’t know what politics would have created a different outcome. 

Domestic violence is a fireable offense with cause for any coach at the University of Texas.

[harveycmd]

1 minute ago, GoHorns1 said:

Domestic violence is a fireable offense with cause for any coach at the University of Texas.

We seem to be dealing with CNN here. Was domestic violence proven?

[Oldest Horn]

2 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

You're saying their investigation superseded the statements of the parties involved? Again, charges were recanted and dropped. I didn't know CDC was clairvoyant. 

You mean when the victim changed her tune after her attorneys spoke with the perpetrator’s?

[Oldest Horn]

1 minute ago, harveycmd said:

We seem to be dealing with CNN here. Was domestic violence proven?

Employers are not subject to the same burden of evidence as criminal courts.  Are you that dense or just being obtuse?

[harveycmd]

Just now, Oldest Horn said:

You mean when the victim changed her tune after her attorneys spoke with the perpetrator’s?

You are assuming there was a "perpetrator." That's the question. You don't know. Stop acting like you have perfect knowledge of the situation. I don't. You don't.

[Oldest Horn]

3 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

You are assuming there was a "perpetrator." That's the question. You don't know. Stop acting like you have perfect knowledge of the situation. I don't. You don't.

I trust our AD’s and administration’s judgement on the matter over yours. That’s for sure. You seem to have a “he wins basketball games, let’s look the other way” attitude here. That may work at Ole Miss or other **** schools in third world states, but not here. 

[GoHorns1]

2 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

We seem to be dealing with CNN here. Was domestic violence proven?

 

 

1 minute ago, harveycmd said:

You are assuming there was a "perpetrator." That's the question. You don't know. Stop acting like you have perfect knowledge of the situation. I don't. You don't.

His contract states fireable behavior not criminal behavior. There was a physical confrontation between Beard and partner is a known fact per the Texas administration investigation. 

[harveycmd]

Just now, Oldest Horn said:

I trust our AD’s and administration’s judgement on the matter over yours. That’s for sure. You seem to have a “he wins basketball games, let’s look the other way” attitude here. That may work at Ole Miss or other **** schools in third world states, but not here. 

I don't trust anyone on faith alone. I certainly don't trust your statements about Beard's culpability. Why would would I? Basic epistemological honesty requires empirical and logical evidence. We don't have empirical evidence. Logical evidence is mixed because stories changed and charges were dropped. Our AD and administration aren't epistemic stalwarts in this case because they haven't given us the information or evidence to prove their credibility in this matter.

[Oldest Horn]

Just now, harveycmd said:

I don't trust anyone on faith alone. I certainly don't trust your statements about Beard's culpability. Why would would I? Basic epistemological honesty requires empirical and logical evidence. We don't have empirical evidence. Logical evidence is mixed because stories changed and charges were dropped. Our AD and administration aren't epistemic stalwarts in this case because they haven't given us the information or evidence to prove their credibility in this matter.

You seem to be trusting Beard. Try harder. 

[harveycmd]

1 minute ago, Oldest Horn said:

You seem to be trusting Beard. Try harder. 

I'm not trusting anyone, but you can't make a definitive judgment in the absence of solid empirical or logical proof. Therefore the most logical conclusion is to avoid judgment. Why is that hard to understand?

[Assistant Regional Manager]

I could do without the political crap in a basketball thread. And it’s really one guy who keeps doing it.

[harveycmd]

4 minutes ago, Assistant Regional Manager said:

I could do without the political crap in a basketball thread. And it’s really one guy who keeps doing it.

Amen.

[THookem]

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[Jarveaux]

3 hours ago, harveycmd said:

Was that ever proven? Last I chekced, Sark had problems in the past that wouldn't look good for teenagers or young adults. How many angels coach college basketball? 

Beard beat Texas in Oxford 72 -69 in Lil ole Mississippi. Fact is Coach Terry wasn’t ready for SEC . Beard was , he could have & probably would’ve made a much better showing at Texas in SEC than Terry . But all that’s history. It’s a matter if we want to dominate the SEC or not .we probably will know that answer at the end of the season.

[Oldest Horn]

1 hour ago, harveycmd said:

I'm not trusting anyone, but you can't make a definitive judgment in the absence of solid empirical or logical proof. Therefore the most logical conclusion is to avoid judgment. Why is that hard to understand?

You seem to be casting “judgement” that Brard should be retained. 

[harveycmd]

19 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

You seem to be casting “judgement” that Brard should be retained. 

Who is Brard? I think you mean Beard. If that's what you mean, then, yes, that's true.  Not casting. How many Texas coaches do you think are morally superior to Beard?

Edited February 23 by harveycmd

[Oldest Horn]

6 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

Who is Brard? I think you mean Beard. If that's what you mean, then, yes, that's true.  Not casting. How many Texas coaches do you think are morally superior to Beard?

So ok for you to make judgments. Gotcha. 
 

And I have no clue on the moral superiority of other coaches. Then again, that’s not the issue at hand.
 

But I appreciate those who keep their names out of the police blotter for choking their girlfriends. 

[harveycmd]

2 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

So ok for you to make judgments. Gotcha. 
 

And I have no clue on the moral superiority of other coaches. Then again, that’s not the issue at hand.
 

But I appreciate those who keep their names out of the police blotter for choking their girlfriends. 

Again, reminds me of talking to lefty nutjobs. I don't know what happened. You don't either. Blotter means nothing to me when it comes to epistemic certainty. The "judgment" is that I don't know. 

[Oldest Horn]

1 minute ago, harveycmd said:

Again, reminds me of talking to lefty nutjobs. I don't know what happened. You don't either. Blotter means nothing to me when it comes to epistemic certainty. The "judgment" is that I don't know. 

I don’t see this as a political issue. Sadly, whacked out extremists on both ends of the spectrum tend to turn everything they can into one. So sad. 

[harveycmd]

1 minute ago, Oldest Horn said:

I don’t see this as a political issue. Sadly, whacked out extremists on both ends of the spectrum tend to turn everything they can into one. So sad. 

I don't think it's political either. Given the absence of positive evidence, there's no reason to think there's a reason to fire Beard absent politically nonsense about domestic violence. No positive proof, no case. That's the truth.

[NothinButDaHorns34]

6 hours ago, Jarveaux said:

If not now - When ?  Texas is being embarrassed by our basketball 🏀 program. How long will this be allowed? 

I have no idea, But let’s hope sooner than later 

[Oldest Horn]

Just now, harveycmd said:

I don't think it's political either. Given the absence of positive evidence, there's no reason to think there's a reason to fire Beard absent politically nonsense about domestic violence. No positive proof, no case. That's the truth.

But you made a political analogy. Brilliant!

[harveycmd]

Just now, Oldest Horn said:

But you made a political analogy. Brilliant!

Where is the analogy? Provide some evidence and stop hiding behind nonsense. 

[Oldest Horn]

Just now, harveycmd said:

Where is the analogy? Provide some evidence and stop hiding behind nonsense. 

Went you equate a reaction to a domestic violence arrest to a political agenda that’s an analogy.. Do you think?