Go Horns JC Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 Did he just break up with his girlfriend? What else can it be??? Unless it is his rotator cuff by the way he moves it around before he enters the field. Sark needs to come clean. 1 Quote
diegozanna20 Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 Arch is not injured and it is all mental. You can't tell me a guy that loses all confidence after an overthrown wheel route doesn't have mental issues to work through. What I am most worried about is: 1) It is not easy or guaranteed that he can work through it, some people just don't have the mental fortitude... You can always get better, but how much? And how long does that take? 2) Everyone around him, including the manning family, did him a disservice. There is no chance in hell that no one saw red flags in how Arch handles all this pressure and if they did they should've steered him to get help about it as soon as possible. If no one saw it then Arch is incredibly good at masking it and that is very stupid to do. If you feel a lot pressure/anxiety masking it doesn't do anything about it and in fact it represses it. We're in 2025, feelings aren't something you repress, it's something you work through, especially as an athelete with all the resources in the world at your disposal. From Sark to Milwee, being a QB guru doesn't only revolve around Xs and Os... why do we see Texas qbs loose confidence or not have confidence to begin with? What the hell is Milwee saying to these guys? 1 Quote
Moderators Gerry Hamilton Posted September 14, 2025 Moderators Posted September 14, 2025 100% mental He's just not close to what he was last year when in games for extended period of time, or what anyone has seen in practice in spring or fall camp. 2 Quote
diegozanna20 Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 1 minute ago, diegozanna20 said: Arch is not injured and it is all mental. You can't tell me a guy that loses all confidence after an overthrown wheel route doesn't have mental issues to work through. What I am most worried about is: 1) It is not easy or guaranteed that he can work through it, some people just don't have the mental fortitude... You can always get better, but how much? And how long does that take? 2) Everyone around him, including the manning family, did him a disservice. There is no chance in hell that no one saw red flags in how Arch handles all this pressure and if they did they should've steered him to get help about it as soon as possible. If no one saw it then Arch is incredibly good at masking it and that is very stupid to do. If you feel a lot pressure/anxiety masking it doesn't do anything about it and in fact it represses it. We're in 2025, feelings aren't something you repress, it's something you work through, especially as an athelete with all the resources in the world at your disposal. From Sark to Milwee, being a QB guru doesn't only revolve around Xs and Os... why do we see Texas qbs loose confidence or not have confidence to begin with? What the hell is Milwee saying to these guys? 14 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said: 100% mental He's just not close to what he was last year when in games for extended period of time, or what anyone has seen in practice in spring or fall camp. Maybe he does but it never got talked about: 1) Does Arch go to a therapist/sports psychologist to talk about the pressure he faces/the anxiety he feels about having to perform? Does he meditate? I would guess no if a guy completely melts down after an overthrown wheel route... (meditating/talking to a therapist WORKS, like scientifically proven that it does...) --> If he doesn't, no one in Arch's magic circle of trust thought that developing Arch's mental fortitude (through meditation or other practices that help you remain grounded) was something that was as important as being able to throw good? If you ask me the Manning's, having seen Peyton and Eli go through it, thought to do the same exact things that they did when they were in college, misjudging how much the world has changed, especially in terms of pressure on young QBs making millions of dollars while leading 40 million dollar rosters. --> If he does then either they have miscalculated how much more he needs to work on the mental side of things or honestly, he's toast. If they have been putting a lot of emphasis on it already then Arch may just not be cut out for it. - It may be a misjudgment of character on my part but seeing Arch's interviews it seems to me like he's been trained to just brush off any hint that the mental side of things are the reason he's not performing up to standard. If he's just saying what the media wants to hear ("Gotta play better") then whatever, but if he actually thinks that he just needs to keep on and he'll magically improve mentally then he's dead wrong. The rest of the year working through the mental side of things should be as much of a priority as watching film or going to practice. Quote
Donnthomas Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) You make a good point about the mental side. I've seen athletes bounce back after addressing that kind of block. For anyone dealing with anxiety or pressure, I've found resources like mentalhealthhotline.org pretty solid for free confidential support. Might be worth looking into if the staff isn't covering psychological training. Edited 1 hour ago by Donnthomas Quote
Moderators CJ Vogel Posted 1 hour ago Moderators Posted 1 hour ago There is no physical injury with shoulder. There never has been. 1 Quote
charlie990 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Feel like breakups usually help athletes rather than hurt 😆 I just remember that insane season Tony Parker had when he and Eva Longoria broke up lol Quote
justwinbaby Posted 58 minutes ago Posted 58 minutes ago As Tom Brady said last year about Arch, he’ll be fine. 1 Quote
Hornio Posted 55 minutes ago Posted 55 minutes ago On 9/14/2025 at 6:03 AM, Gerry Hamilton said: 100% mental He's just not close to what he was last year when in games for extended period of time, or what anyone has seen in practice in spring or fall camp. The first half of last season was mental too. Let's hope we don't have to suffer two losses before he snaps out of it this year Quote
jbseamus83 Posted 41 minutes ago Posted 41 minutes ago Just FYI - This thread was started LAST September... It was brought back up by someone with 2 posts... Just saying 1 2 Quote
GoHorns1 Posted 27 minutes ago Posted 27 minutes ago Arch needs to be himself have fun and play ball. Definitely liked Sarks comment on Monday. Arch needs to be Arch. Quote
MBHORNSFAN Posted 14 minutes ago Posted 14 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Donnthomas said: You make a good point about the mental side. I've seen athletes bounce back after addressing that kind of block. For anyone dealing with anxiety or pressure, I've found resources like mentalhealthhotline.org pretty solid for free confidential support. Might be worth looking into if the staff isn't covering psychological training. Troll Quote
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