Sark eyeing NFL per report

[Hookem72]

Kobe was a ball hog.  I don’t care for him because of what he did to that girl in Colorado, but all heroes have flaws.  You guys can hero worship all you want and call me a casual, but he wasn’t a team player until later in his career.   

[Ace_Rothstein]

3 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

Grant Hill said Kobe was easily the best player he ever played against.

Yeah you can literally google just about any former all star and Kobe is going to be #1 or #2 (if they played with or against MJ).

The spreadsheet socialists who don’t know ball and reduce everyone to a flawed advanced metric can’t comprehend how dominant, refined and complete Kobe’s game was.

I am sure there are ton of Spurs fans on here. They should go hear what Pop has/had to say about Kobe Bryant as a player haha.  

“carried by Shaq” is hilarious. And I say that as a guy that totally understands and respects Shaq’s dominance. The Lakers don’t three peat with any other player besides Shaq. Maybe Tim Duncan but even then, probably don’t three peat. 

Kobe further validated his greatness in the #24 era when he went to 3 straight finals as the alpha dog winning 2 back to back. 

All the scoring averages of the top guys today are vastly inflated by defensive rule changes, the prominence of the 3 ball, and the increased pace of play. Kobe and Jordan would be putting up 40 burgers every other night in today’s game. 

 

 

[harveycmd]

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kobe-bryant-record-vs-tim-duncan-playoffs

[Ace_Rothstein]

3 minutes ago, Hookem72 said:

Kobe was a ball hog.  I don’t care for him because of what he did to that girl in Colorado, but all heroes have flaws.  You guys can hero worship all you want and call me a casual, but he wasn’t a team player until later in his career.   

Go look at what Pop said about Kobe’s passing prowess. I won’t deny that he had ball hog tendencies especially early in his career but he had phenomenal court vision and elite passing ability when he decided to pass. 

And frankly, after Shaq left, those rosters needed 35 per night from Kobe just to have a shot at winning. I probably am not passing to Smush Parker or Caron Butler (solid player) if those are my next best options ha. 

It’s not hero worship. It’s just factual. You can’t find many if any all time greats or all stars from that era that don’t say Kobe was the best player they have played with or against (even before his death).

Easy top 10 player to ever touch a basketball. 

 

[harveycmd]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bVn5jiFHug

[harveycmd]

35 minutes ago, Ace_Rothstein said:

Yeah you can literally google just about any former all star and Kobe is going to be #1 or #2 (if they played with or against MJ).

The spreadsheet socialists who don’t know ball and reduce everyone to a flawed advanced metric can’t comprehend how dominant, refined and complete Kobe’s game was.

I am sure there are ton of Spurs fans on here. They should go hear what Pop has/had to say about Kobe Bryant as a player haha.  

“carried by Shaq” is hilarious. And I say that as a guy that totally understands and respects Shaq’s dominance. The Lakers don’t three peat with any other player besides Shaq. Maybe Tim Duncan but even then, probably don’t three peat. 

Kobe further validated his greatness in the #24 era when he went to 3 straight finals as the alpha dog winning 2 back to back. 

All the scoring averages of the top guys today are vastly inflated by defensive rule changes, the prominence of the 3 ball, and the increased pace of play. Kobe and Jordan would be putting up 40 burgers every other night in today’s game. 

 

 

Greatest stuff ever. Best time I ever had as a sports fan was when Kobe killed Sacramento, San Antonio and then Iverson in 2001 playoffs, Confirmed his place as the best player in world beyond any doubt. We got media crap after than for years.

[harveycmd]

Got one MVP. Had to watch idiots like Nash and Nowitzki win it, Lakers wouldn't have ten games without him 2006, Greatest playoff ever against the Suns that year.

[SchoolColors]

This conversation has gone off the rails. Back to the topic, Freeman is a better head coach than Sarkisian. 

[harveycmd]

16 minutes ago, SchoolColors said:

This conversation has gone off the rails. Back to the topic, Freeman is a better head coach than Sarkisian. 

Freeman about like Hugh Freeze. Get a grip. 

[harveycmd]

1 hour ago, Hookem72 said:

Kobe was a ball hog.  I don’t care for him because of what he did to that girl in Colorado, but all heroes have flaws.  You guys can hero worship all you want and call me a casual, but he wasn’t a team player until later in his career.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH2pwNvvDqg

Rest his head on a pillow made of croncrete.

Edited 7 hours ago by harveycmd

[Hookem72]

38 minutes ago, SchoolColors said:

This conversation has gone off the rails. Back to the topic, Freeman is a better head coach than Sarkisian. 

Is this your first Harveyc thread?  Whisper the name Kobe and this happens

[harveycmd]

34 minutes ago, Hookem72 said:

Is this your first Harveyc thread?  Whisper the name Kobe and this happens

Who could rest his head on pillow made of concrete the last thirty years besides Mikey and Kobe?

[harveycmd]

3 hours ago, Ace_Rothstein said:

Go look at what Pop said about Kobe’s passing prowess. I won’t deny that he had ball hog tendencies especially early in his career but he had phenomenal court vision and elite passing ability when he decided to pass. 

And frankly, after Shaq left, those rosters needed 35 per night from Kobe just to have a shot at winning. I probably am not passing to Smush Parker or Caron Butler (solid player) if those are my next best options ha. 

It’s not hero worship. It’s just factual. You can’t find many if any all time greats or all stars from that era that don’t say Kobe was the best player they have played with or against (even before his death).

Easy top 10 player to ever touch a basketball. 

 

Easy top two. Grant Hill "He was the best player I played against, and I say this respectfully to Jordan. He was the best player I played against. The best player I played against, hands down, was Kobe."

 

Edited 5 hours ago by harveycmd