OTF Premium SEC Hoops Game Thread: Texas vs. No. 7 Florida

4 minutes ago, Bevohorns said:

swain is coming back theres no way hes first round talent rn. 

Bulls Director of Player Personnel at the game ... says he absolutely is on the first round line and ascending. NBA guys like him. 

Texas is now 17-11 overall and 8-7 in the SEC.

Three games left in the regular season to get a ninth SEC win.

Texas seriously has no power forward. They have to play Heide or Codie. You can pull Pope for lazy passes and poor defense, but you have to put Wilcher in. You lose offense by taking Pope out. 

Just now, Jeff Howe said:

Texas is now 17-11 overall and 8-7 in the SEC.

Three games left in the regular season to get a ninth SEC win.

Good call on the game Jeff. Three games to get one win.

Hot garbage 

3 minutes ago, Jeff Howe said:

I don’t think it’s that. It’s just a team that isn’t good enough defensively to compensate for the dry spells on offense.

He’s got more time to build a roster this upcoming offseason. Defense HAS to improve

6 minutes ago, Jordan91 said:

Good call on the game Jeff. Three games to get one win.

Literally wouldn’t surprise me if we won all three, or lost all three.

Just now, TheRoJoShow said:

Hot garbage 

Man that’s not fair. I actually think this game proved just how good Coach Miller is. It’s just not a very good team. You can take Pope out but you have to put Wilcher in. Texas has no power forward. Put Heide in or Codie and you’re lucky if you get five points out of them. Heide is in over his head. Coach Miller is doing an excellent job of covering some big holes. 

This team lacks talent theres no other reason. our guards are bad and most of the people we have to play wouldn't see much court on good teams. Ill be looking forward to next season where the talent floor is risen with the recruiting class and the transfer portal.

Codie and Heide not being SEC quality players really doomed this thing from the start.

Codie especially after all the talk that he was ready to make a jump in year 2.

Just now, JMarquette said:

Literally wouldn’t surprise me if we won all three, or lost all three.

I agree. That’s why I said Texas would potentially lose five in a row if they dropped the LSU game. 

1 minute ago, Assistant Regional Manager said:

Codie and Heide not being SEC quality players really doomed this thing from the start.

Codie especially after all the talk that he was ready to make a jump in year 2.

Florida really did a much better job on Mark in the second half. 

Why is anyone surprised? 

Texas was never beating Florida. It was going to be a double digit game. They are a damn good team with a number of returnees of an NC team. Best big men in the country (BTW, none highly recruited in the states) with experience that will all play pro ball on some level, key guard off the bench on the NC team and Golden is a GREAT offensive coach. 

Texas will likely lose at Texas A&M (10-15% chance to win) and will definitely lose at Arkansas. 

Texas literally has four straight games against NCAA Tournament teams, with three on the road. Texas is favored in NONE of them. If anyone think Texas should win... Vegas is pretty good at what they do! 

This has been setting up for the OU game at home being the must win. 

And it's always been ... will the Mississippi State game come back to haunt.

But in the mean time while everyone awaits the OU game and SEC Tournament ... Miller sucks, Swain isn't ready to go pro, Matas sucks, Pope sucks, Mark sucks, everyone sucks.

I'll keep saying the same thing as I have since prior to the season ...

Danny Hurley at UConn (under .500), Todd Golden at Florida (under .500), Rick Pitino at St. Johns,Nate Oats at Alabama,  Chris Beard at Ole Miss, Brad Underwood at Illinois, Mick Cronin at UCLA all missed the NCAA Tournament year one in the portal era. 

The future years will come down to one of two scenarios ...

1. Texas fully funds the [program from the NIL side to be competitive in the portal.

2. Miller and staff catch lightening in a bottle a couple of times with a HS prospect or couple of not high-end NIL portal guys. 

 

Have to say there is no excuse for being this bad defensively. You can be bad but not that bad. 

Just now, Gerry Hamilton said:

Why is anyone surprised? 

Texas was never beating Florida. It was going to be a double digit game. They are a damn good team with a number of returnees of an NC team. Best big men in the country (BTW, none highly recruited in the states) with experience that will all play pro ball on some level, key guard off the bench on the NC team and Golden is a GREAT offensive coach. 

Texas will likely lose at Texas A&M (10-15% chance to win) and will definitely lose at Arkansas. 

Texas literally has four straight games against NCAA Tournament teams, with three on the road. Texas is favored in NONE of them. If anyone think Texas should win... Vegas is pretty good at what they do! 

This has been setting up for the OU game at home being the must win. 

And it's always been ... will the Mississippi State game come back to haunt.

But in the mean time while everyone awaits the OU game and SEC Tournament ... Miller sucks, Swain isn't ready to go pro, Matas sucks, Pope sucks, Mark sucks, everyone sucks.

I'll keep saying the same thing as I have since prior to the season ...

Danny Hurley at UConn (under .500), Todd Golden at Florida (under .500), Rick Pitino at St. Johns,Nate Oats at Alabama,  Chris Beard at Ole Miss, Brad Underwood at Illinois, Mick Cronin at UCLA all missed the NCAA Tournament year one in the portal era. 

The future years will come down to one of two scenarios ...

1. Texas fully funds the [program from the NIL side to be competitive in the portal.

2. Miller and staff catch lightening in a bottle a couple of times with a HS prospect or couple of not high-end NIL portal guys. 

 

It’s what I have been saying. It’s three games to get one win. Have no idea who is saying those guys suck. Definitely not me. 

Bucky McMillan and Jai Lucas will make the tourney in year one. 

Just now, Jordan91 said:

It’s what I have been saying. It’s three games to get one win. Have no idea who is saying those guys suck. Definitely not me. 

Every freaking one of yall are. Please Jordan. Haha

It's exhausting. Literally the worst threads all season. 

The expectations for this team are just not even close to reality. That's on every one of you guys. 

 

 

1 minute ago, LonghornFan4Ever said:

Bucky McMillan and Jai Lucas will make the tourney in year one. 

Some do, and some don't all I've said is it's not a guarantee. 

Literally all season. 

So take that somewhere else

4 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Why is anyone surprised? 

Texas was never beating Florida. It was going to be a double digit game. They are a damn good team with a number of returnees of an NC team. Best big men in the country (BTW, none highly recruited in the states) with experience that will all play pro ball on some level, key guard off the bench on the NC team and Golden is a GREAT offensive coach. 

Texas will likely lose at Texas A&M (10-15% chance to win) and will definitely lose at Arkansas. 

Texas literally has four straight games against NCAA Tournament teams, with three on the road. Texas is favored in NONE of them. If anyone think Texas should win... Vegas is pretty good at what they do! 

This has been setting up for the OU game at home being the must win. 

And it's always been ... will the Mississippi State game come back to haunt.

But in the mean time while everyone awaits the OU game and SEC Tournament ... Miller sucks, Swain isn't ready to go pro, Matas sucks, Pope sucks, Mark sucks, everyone sucks.

I'll keep saying the same thing as I have since prior to the season ...

Danny Hurley at UConn (under .500), Todd Golden at Florida (under .500), Rick Pitino at St. Johns,Nate Oats at Alabama,  Chris Beard at Ole Miss, Brad Underwood at Illinois, Mick Cronin at UCLA all missed the NCAA Tournament year one in the portal era. 

The future years will come down to one of two scenarios ...

1. Texas fully funds the [program from the NIL side to be competitive in the portal.

2. Miller and staff catch lightening in a bottle a couple of times with a HS prospect or couple of not high-end NIL portal guys. 

 

A&M looks like their legs are shot and they’re not that good, as we speak, Arky is getting run by A&M. I think you’re crazy to think that those aren’t winnable games, especially considering Swain has been a top 5 player in the SEC. 
 

To the Vegas point, Vegas even disagreed with you and had Florida as 6-point favorites tonight. Not everyone thought this was going to be a double digit game.  

8 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Why is anyone surprised? 

Texas was never beating Florida. It was going to be a double digit game. They are a damn good team with a number of returnees of an NC team. Best big men in the country (BTW, none highly recruited in the states) with experience that will all play pro ball on some level, key guard off the bench on the NC team and Golden is a GREAT offensive coach. 

Texas will likely lose at Texas A&M (10-15% chance to win) and will definitely lose at Arkansas. 

Texas literally has four straight games against NCAA Tournament teams, with three on the road. Texas is favored in NONE of them. If anyone think Texas should win... Vegas is pretty good at what they do! 

This has been setting up for the OU game at home being the must win. 

And it's always been ... will the Mississippi State game come back to haunt.

But in the mean time while everyone awaits the OU game and SEC Tournament ... Miller sucks, Swain isn't ready to go pro, Matas sucks, Pope sucks, Mark sucks, everyone sucks.

I'll keep saying the same thing as I have since prior to the season ...

Danny Hurley at UConn (under .500), Todd Golden at Florida (under .500), Rick Pitino at St. Johns,Nate Oats at Alabama,  Chris Beard at Ole Miss, Brad Underwood at Illinois, Mick Cronin at UCLA all missed the NCAA Tournament year one in the portal era. 

The future years will come down to one of two scenarios ...

1. Texas fully funds the [program from the NIL side to be competitive in the portal.

2. Miller and staff catch lightening in a bottle a couple of times with a HS prospect or couple of not high-end NIL portal guys. 

 

I dont think anyone thought they would win but reading your post why has your tone changed so much ? You were so high on miller which ill be real I wasnt but now I am. You seem very doubtful now that this program will become something and you didnt sound like that last offseason when we hired him ? maybe I am reading into it too much but u dont seem as positive. I also dont get the doubt on NIL you yourself have said that agents are calling texas and we have a top 10 recruiting class coming in. I think miller could have this team be a top 16 team each year and the signs are there and hes started bringing talent so your tone seems shifted. I could also care less if we make tournament this first year as long as he makes it next year which I think he will. Terry left this roster is very bad shape

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Just now, JMarquette said:

A&M looks like their legs are shot and they’re not that good, as we speak, Arky is getting run by A&M. I think you’re crazy to think that those aren’t winnable games, especially considering Swain has been a top 5 player in the SEC. 
 

To the Vegas point, Vegas even disagreed with you and had Florida as 6-point favorites tonight. Not everyone thought this was going to be a double digit game.  

If you din't think Florida was going to win by double digits, not sure what to say. Florida was the absolute worst matchup for Texas. They negated Texas' strength as a team. The only team that truly can. 

A&M is a chance, like 10-15%

Arkansas is a bad matchup for Texas. 

 

 

12 minutes ago, Jordan91 said:

Man that’s not fair. I actually think this game proved just how good Coach Miller is. It’s just not a very good team. You can take Pope out but you have to put Wilcher in. Texas has no power forward. Put Heide in or Codie and you’re lucky if you get five points out of them. Heide is in over his head. Coach Miller is doing an excellent job of covering some big holes. 

I mean sure. I’m not bashing on coaching. As you said, the team just isn’t that good. A thirteen point swing in three minutes is hot garbage regardless of the circumstances. 

1 minute ago, Bevohorns said:

I dont think anyone thought they would win but reading your post why has your tone changed so much ? You were so high on miller which ill be real I wasnt but now I am. You seem very doubtful now that this program will become something and you didnt sound like that last offseason when we hired him ? maybe I am reading into it too much but u dont seem as positive. I also dont get the doubt on NIL you yourself have said that agents are calling texas and we have a top 10 recruiting class coming in. I think miller could have this team be a top 16 team each year and the signs are there and hes started bringing talent so your tone seems shifted. 

Miller is a damn good coach. An elite coach IMO. 4 E8's and 8 Sweet 16's speak for itself. 

All depends on if Texas comes through in NIL. Agents love to use Texas to maximize dollars.

If not, will be tough to maximize. 

Just being real. Otherwise, you have to catch lightening in a bottle on some lesser NIL guys. Just the way it works. 

Just now, Gerry Hamilton said:

If you din't think Florida was going to win by double digits, not sure what to say. Florida was the absolute worst matchup for Texas. They negated Texas' strength as a team. The only team that truly can. 

A&M is a chance, like 10-15%

Arkansas is a bad matchup for Texas. 

 

 

Well then I guess Vegas was way off because they had it at +6 Florida. 
 

I think you’re greatly overestimating A&M, who I’ve watched get boat raced 4 out of the last 5 games. 

1 minute ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Every freaking one of yall are. Please Jordan. Haha

It's exhausting. Literally the worst threads all season. 

The expectations for this team are just not even close to reality. That's on every one of you guys. 

 

 

Whatever man. I had the tournament as the bar to start the season. This is the second game you have done this. Not much to respond to.  Pope is a massive liability on defense. Coach Miller is talking about him specifically when he talks about defense. I guess pointing that out is wrong. I have said Mark is hot and cold and he is. Not sure how that means he sucks. Are we not allowed to be critical of players?