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Dante moore coming back for Oregon. Cant help for our Seaton chances one would think

Hope yall get your ass kicked monday 🤪🤪

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Welcome! Your team is 15-0 and rolling to a nattie. Of course the fanbase has confidence in the staff. If this board/transfer portal were around in 2005 I’m sure it would’ve been the same here. But watching your team and especially OL get mauled by a 4-8 team will make you question things and, right or wrong, bring out the hysterics. I’m sure it’ll be the same the next time Indiana loses to Minnesota or whatever.

We had aggy troll's Sooner trolls on this this board & now an admitted Indiana fan show up. Settle down chief. Don't let the 2 yrs of success go to your head. You're still the next to last all-time losingest program in college football.

Dante Moore - returning to College

Thanks, should be a good game. I could have been more clear, the point of my post was to reinforce what you were saying. UT is shaping up to be a Top 5 team next year, missing out on a portal lineman or two shouldn't matter much. If you need 5 future NFL linemen to win, then UT has some serious systemic issues... but hopefully it's obvious I don't think that is the case.

When you go from what Indiana was to Indiana is, its easy to trust the coaches. Especially as you enter the championship game as the favorite. Texas isn't bad at player development. We have put more guys in the NFL the past few years than any school in the nation. They just had a hole at iOL and it needs to be filled. Do you think Indiana didnt have holes to fill over the last two years or for next year? You'll see that fanbases of programs that have high level of fan entitlement arent as rational or willing to trust the coaches. You might see the same there in a few years if you keep your staff around and keep succeeding.

We don’t think with reason over here. We prefer the idea of jumping to the extremist measure of the world is ending unless we sign every player that we want out of the portal. I don’t make the rules, I just follow them

Yes, preferably chocolate chip. I live in Dallas so it probably shouldn't be much trouble for you to deliver them to me.

See, @Gerry Hamilton I think I agree with your premise, but I disagree with some of the specifics. I think guys like C. Jones (724th kid in nation), Sweat (605), Ford (1200), Helm (666), and Sorrell (683) are exactly who you're going to see most of your class made up of. I don't mean those specific players -- so nothing about size, scheme, fit, etc. -- just general profile of prospect. I might agree with you on Barron (343) and Murphy (393). Cummings (603), Walker (746), Scherer (1160) and Jilek (1502) were all last minute adds once we embraced this new model. I think HS classes for the elite programs will be 8-12 Atkinson, Wesley, Bishop -- top 100 -- and then a lot more of the guys ranked 400+. I think you could still see classes of 25-30 bodies, they're just filled with these longer development types. To be clear, those guys will have to be willing to accept ~$0 of NIL. So, Barron who flipped from Baylor (did Murphy, too?), probably isn't eligible. The vast majority of these kids will know they aren't playing in Year 1. After Year 1, some will leave. But it will have cost you $0. After Year 1, the coaches may be able to better assess the talent level, so some may get paid a bit (this is the old school way of giving a walk-on a scholarship), but most will continue being scholarship-only players. The purpose of this group is a) to find a Christian Jones, Michael Taaffe, Gunner Helm, etc., but also b) give you bodies to hit in practice and establish your foundation and culture. I think it's the Broughton, Livingstone, Cruz, Dubose -- guys ranked ~150-400 -- that never get brought in. They'll want to get paid, then they'll want raises regardless of production - and that's what can't happen. I totally agree with your second category -- those guys are allowed to walk today. I think you'll still carry 80-90 players, but you'll only be paying 50 studs and maybe another 15 depth guys. Recruit ~10 elite HS kids a year, you'll churn some and there's an average tenure of ~3 years -- you'll carry 30-35 of these at any given time. Go get ~10 portal studs (big money) that expect to start immediately -- you'll carry ~10 of these at a time. Bolster your depth through the portal with 5-10 a year, so carry ~10 at a time. And then fill the rest with $0 HS kids (incl specialists) at ~12 a year, so carry ~30 at any given time. All said, you'll carry ~80-85, maybe 90 scholarships. I think we're at 90 today if you assume we add 8 more through the portal. By my count (currently) 37 HS Studs (but this will decline as we evolve to new model) 15 Portal Studs (assuming we add LB, 2 OL, DB, DE) -- this will decline over time as the new model evolves, but you'll have years of spikes based on exPorts/NFL 10 Portal Depth/Specialists (assuming we add RB, QB, OL) -- this will increase over time as the new model evolves 28 HS Hopefuls =90 PS - Cig got a great head start on everyone. I think the term "Moneyball" is thrown around too loosely as a term for "good general management," but I do think Indiana replicated Moneyball -- they put focus and value on metrics (i.e., production and experience) where other programs prioritized other more common metrics. But now the cat is out of the bag and others will copy. The market for 23 year old players will be more competitive and efficient. Can Indiana/Cig repeat what they've done? Was Mendoza a product of Cig's system, or did Cig buy the Heisman trophy winner for free? I'm not knocking what they've done this year - it's incredible. But the book is written and now there are other, e.g., DePodestas, out there.

Receiver Ryan Wingo will return to Texas for the 2026 season.

Congrats dude, you want a cookie?

You take a wrong turn there, fella? JK, best of luck Monday nite, and don't confuse any of the 'neurotic posts' with intel - people are just freakin'. P

Indiana fan here, I've watched your board over the past week for Brunner news. I've also watched UT stack outstanding recruiting classes year-over-year. In a sea of neurotic posts, PaulieD's post was one of the few that resonated with the vibe of Indiana's recruiting forums. I've got to ask a few questions: 1) Do you have no confidence in your coaching staff and the OL underclassmen UT has recruited over the past several years? 2) Is the problem UT recruits well but sucks at player development? Prior to Brunner's IU visit, "insiders" mentioned he was ours to lose. Brunner visited Indiana over a week ago and we've heard nothing about how the visit went. Do you know how many Indiana fans have expressed concern in our forums? There's not a single "sky is falling" post about potentially losing the only major OL transfer Indiana is targeting... and it's not because we are confident he will commit to Indiana. We aren't worried because we are confident in the development of linemen who haven't even sniffed the field yet, and we trust the staff to go out and get someone if there actually is a gap on the line. Shifting gears a bit, we were relatively excited about the visit from former Texas RB C.J. Baxter. He would have been part of a 4 RB committee if we signed him. It sounds like he was ours if Cignetti wanted him... Cignetti passed. For a little context, You have to understand Baxter would have been the first 5* in Indiana history. The backlash from the Indiana fan base for not adding Baxter... none. We trust our staff to identify if he would have been the right fit.

Seaton isn’t a bad kid. relax. he responded to a tweet… lol

Yeah definitely some more dudes going to the shrine bowl. Helps being in Frisco, rather than Mobile.

We have had this approach in the past.. it was JUCO ball. in the near future a number of FBS schools will have 80% of their team made up of underclassman. The upper class man will move on to competitive programs. This will further divide college football between the haves and have nots. I don’t like this at all. Parity will never take place and the overall quality of the product will fall off. Sure there will be super teams, but not necessarily super conferences. Looking at the SEC and Big10, half their members would be classified as development schools. Eventually something has to give as BMD’s cannot afford to give donations just to NIL. Athletic directors are always going to need new facilities and improvements. College athletics is going to face some difficult days ahead.

Hero Kanu made it official too, back for 2026

Not wrong. First Deion now Irvin

Yeah I noticed how it’s slowly switching to the shrine bowl though

With no long term contracts, money that isn't on the field is a complete waste. And it's hard to get true freshman on the field.

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