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Thanks Del Conte - I agree 100%. This ain’t just a standard celebration penalty. I wonder what DKR would do?

Crazy

….you looked and Raleek’s celebration and that’s the conclusion you drew? A modern dance? Really?! Dude…he literally smelled his balls, took a whiff of it, then presented to pass out from the stench.

Yikes

Stats/data all need to be taken in context. In 2021 is when I became particularly intrigued with PFF. I do feel as though I’ve gained some knowledge each year. And often as I see one data point, it brings about a different question for me. I never take one data point in isolation. For average time to throw, the overall time has less value than the categorization of it. For all of 2025, the QB with longest time to throw for the entire season was 2.86 seconds when kept clean. Faizon’s was 3.27 seconds when kept clean. His average depth of target on those throws was 7.8 yards. Of 168 qualifying QBs, that ranks 101st in deepest down the field when kept clean. Arch was 2.48 seconds and 8.6 yards down the field. So about 8 tenths of a second faster at almost a yard further downfield. Faizon was not good. These numbers indicate that Faizon is not being decisive with the ball or that he’s waiting to attack downfield. He held it too long for too little reward. For 2025, the worst rate of pressures converted to sacks was 36%. He was at 43%. If you’d like to add a little context to that Arch was at 13.3% last year. So not sure how you to spin that to say Faizon was not responsible for his share of the blame. So rather than complaining about the information I made a concerted effort to understand it better. I’d encourage others to do the same.

So Raleek's unpenalized modern dance performance is being equated here with Simmons's 15-yard restroom simulation? I don't think the two are on nearly the same level of offensiveness.

Coach Erwin nailed it on lunch with the coach. This type of conduct reveals a fundamental lack of discipline that if not addressed, will lead to us not achieving our goals for this team such that even the 5.5 sacks won't make up for it. Beyond that, treating it as being about just a 15yard penalty when it was a fundamentally wrong, indecent, and disrespectful action is an exercise in missing the point.

Eh, I feel you, but nah. Although if I was the opposing team or fan base, I would be more offended of giving up 5.5 sacks, than what he did as a celebration.

I hope it does not happen again. A) It’s vulgar and just no, B) I don’t want to see something like from Texas, C), I don’t want the penalty that will hurt the team, and D) I’m not sure I want to see what CDC could or would do if it did occur again.

Call me crazy but if he’s giving me 5.5 sacks every week I’ll take the 15 yards……

Wow no shutout…

In his newsletter: https://texaslonghorns.com/news/2026/9/29/forty-acres-insider-september-29 "Gritty, gutsy, driven and determined … our Horns dug deep, stood tall and delivered some TENACIOUS TEXAS FIGHT in Knoxville on Saturday! We can all agree it was a heck of a game and an incredible performance on the field, but I also know we had some major issues to address with inappropriate celebrations from our players. I'm not happy about that, I know none of us are, and it was embarrassing to our proud and widely respected football team, athletics program and university. It certainly raised very warranted concerns that many of you shared with me, drew a lot of attention, and I understand why. Rest assured, Coach Sark has addressed both situations with the players individually and with the team, and he discussed them after the game and again in Monday's press conference. As he said, it is unacceptable and will not be tolerated. The message is clear — the players conduct did not reflect the values of Texas Athletics or our university and cannot happen again. I also want to add my apology to our Longhorn community and everyone who expects better from Texas. We should represent this university with class, dignity and respect at all times, and in those moments, we fell short. I do recognize that these are young men who made mistakes, and this is a meaningful learning experience. They have owned their mistakes, and those actions are not reflective of who they are. They are good people who made poor choices — they know it, we know it, and they, along with our entire team, will grow from this. What matters now is that they do just that and that our entire team understands the responsibility that comes with representing The University of Texas. We are proud of the team and what it accomplished Saturday and thus far this season, and we will continue to hold ourselves to the standard that all of you rightly expect from Texas. Thank you for your passion, your candor and your unwavering support of our Longhorns."

also, how do apply?

@ArizonaLonghorn thanks, really appreciate the info. The last time I tried to look up their methodology was a couple of years ago and I couldn't find anything (might have been behind a paywall at that point?). I'm still skeptical how they can employ 600 quality analysts, but I'm encouraged they're being more transparent and appreciate you sharing that info 🤘

Appreciate the insight.

Haha they do employ a lot of people I believe. They grade the games live and by quarter. And they have at least 2 people per game. One charting and one reviewing. I don’t know much more beyond that.

On the bright side, even if they fire Elko this season, the buyout will still be less than Jimbo’s.

I think the incentives in that contract are probably not happening this year, maybe ever.

This is insane for a college team.

I also wondered about the numbers, the sheer tonnage of data they collect and analyze in such a short time, so I dug into it a bit. 138 FBS teams and these are graded first. So a max # of 138 games if each played the same day against a non-FBS team (which is unlikely, but a hard ceiling). 69 games if all 138 played other FBS teams but there are usually a few teams with bye weeks or the games are spread across different days. And the games are spread across 3 or 4 viewing windows during the day so they can finish say an early game while the 2nd window game plays, then work on the evening game. So probably need roughly half as many graders as games played on the busiest day. You ask "Do they employ 1000+ skilled tape watchers?" Check this PFF Player Grades link (free), scroll down to the "Who is doing the Grading?" block and it says they have "600 full or part-time analysts, but less than 10% of analysts are trained to the level that they can grade plays. " So 60-ish graders and another 9-10 support guys per grader. What do the support guys do? I guess they do the grunt work of chopping up the videos so the grader can simply grade, maybe IDing players and formations, breaking plays down into run vs pass etc. I've exchanged messages with a guy who works part time for PFF and he said he was responsible for one task on every play - with multiple guys doing this it would free up a grader to simply evaluate by position. How much actual time is taken up by active plays in a 60 minute game? I've heard 12-15 minutes, surely less than 20 minutes. So if the All-22 is broken down right they can probably grade two games a day. You mention "100 total players in each game" but they would only do 22 per play and somewhere in that link I gave you it says most plays grade as neutral for most of the players so they can probably rip thru it pretty fast. I was skeptical at first but I can see how they can pull it off. Hope this helps. Not trying to carry water for PFF, just trying to understand it better. This was something I dug into a little (I had the same concerns you raise) and now I can see how it makes sense that they could do it that quickly with 60 trained graders. Whether you agree with their ranking results is a different topic.