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Well, pulling people’s chains is exactly what you’re doing by having this “discussion”. It’s flawed, entirely. Of course the two coaches operated under different times, etc. But debating the level of success, regardless of the context, is what actually matters. And in that, there is no reasonable comparison.

And that gentlemen is why I dont bet on sports lol

25-23 Texas takes 1st set

23-23 TO OU

The pass to Moore that he ran out of bounds. More of it Sark. It was open against OU. It was open here. UK showed us a number of simple plays in the pass game. Jet sweeps/ends around to it other than Wingo.

This conversation started with comparing Herman never sniffing the playoffs to Sark in terms of results and context. I’m here to discuss observable outcomes, not to pull anyone’s chain. NIL, the transfer portal, and top tier recruiting have changed what’s expected from Texas coaches. I appreciate everyone keeping the discussion respectful and focused on the facts, with the exception of those who resort to personal jabs.

I typed a long paragraph trying to be positive and funny, but I erased it to ask the following. OTF, I think after how bad this last game was to watch, it would make sense (and great content) to put out a video to show what worked against OU compared to Kentucky and why. There are some things that are obvious, but I think it would be a good exploration on both games.

20-18 OU TO Texas

Quinn, I miss you

Understood.

When someone starts making it personal, it usually means they’ve run out of real arguments. I’m not “negative,” I’m focused on results and those results still don’t match the resources Sark’s had. Going from 5–7 to the playoff with NIL, the portal, and a top 5 roster every year isn’t the same as building from scratch without those tools. The same issues stagnant offense, QB regression, and no clear identity are still there. And to be clear, the claim about multiple conference “titles” is misleading. Sark won the Big 12 once and made the SEC Championship game once. Claiming “titles” implies dominance that hasn’t actually happened. That’s reality, and it stands regardless of the personal insults you throw. Unless I’m misremembering, weren’t conference titles and semi final playoff appearances only supposed to “count” if you actually won them? That’s the line we used to tell OU fans back in the Herman days. Seems like the standards have conveniently changed.

Is this a serious conversation about Herman v Sark? If so, surely you’re just trying to pull peoples chain.

Most negative people consume doom and gloom information throughout the day in some capacity therefore that is the lens with they view things.

100% we’ve seen what they can do when they play complimentary smart football. We smoke OU by 17 and in the second half it didn’t even feel that close. Hopefully we can get Baxter back and the run in game can elevate. I’d actually love to see Niblett get more involved almost as a poor man’s Jaydon Blue. Would also like to see us feature the talent we have at the right end position. Play some up tempo ball and run right at people. Let’s see if they can hold up.

10-5 Texas TO OU

I kind of understand “winning is hard” in the sense that you can do a lot of things right within a game and still lose. Just look at what happened to Kentucky last night. They smothered the Texas offense and dominated time of possession, but they still lost. The difference is that Herman seemed to use this as an excuse for consistently losing to Oklahoma State and Maryland. At least we actually won last night.

All of them are scary but the attitude remains strong within the locker room. They are still right where they want to be. If all 3 phases ever click their potential is as high as anyone's. Their defense is going to put them in great spots. I will miss watching Michael Taaffe, Manny Muhammad, Anthony Hill etc. Great defense they are beasts.

Colin Simmons needs to get in somebody’s face. Anthony Hill is good enough to challenge his teammates. This defense is too good and has been too good for too long . If I was a starter on Defense I’d be fed up with the offense. Challenge them, aggressively but in a positive way. If that makes sense.

Nope

Mississippi State is, IMO, our best chance at bowl eligibility. They are the easiest team left on the schedule.

Hopefully we can continue to get better in all phases. The next two games are tough but winnable. Georgia…that’s a scary one.

Just when we thought that the offense had found its footing and an identity against blOwU they show how undisciplined and inconsistent they are the next game.

The on-field product, or “the results” or “facts” as you like to call them, have evolved just fine and took us from 5-7 to back to back top 4 finishes, big wins over our rivals, conference titles, etc. Something Herman could only dream about at this point in his career. You keep doing you. I know you will always have a response to everything and nothing will ever change your mind about this program. You constantly bagged on Herman, you constantly bag on Sark and you will drag whoever the next guy is too. Same in basketball. Same in baseball. That’s your DNA. Negativity and being contrarian. You are most active on here after any type of negative outcome, whether it be recruiting or on the field. It’s like clockwork.

It’s frustrating to hear stuff like we’ve got to do a better job getting him easy completions…from the play caller. Earth to Sark, call plays that do that. It’s like we’re not scouting teams on offense and attacking weaknesses it looks like we just go out and gameplan after the game has started. He fact arch hasn’t gotten hurt is still astounding to me and a testament to his toughness. It’s almost criminal to do that to him.

In other words, he is his own worst enemy. And that doesn't work.