NFL contracts are getting beyond insane

[Aspann85]

JSN just signed a 4 yr $168m contract. It wasn’t long ago that it was insane when a QB got to $20m/yr and now WRs are at $40m+/yr while the average man still make something like $60-80,000/yr. Just crazy where some of these sports are headed.

[BubbaJacques]

And the average woman makes even less.

[CJ Vogel]

Highest paid NFL WR is making Darius Garland money now!

[Dread-headed Texan]

I gave up on professional sports a long time ago. College has their portal mess that needs to be cleaned up, but it still makes me feel something and brings me joy. 

[ArizonaLonghorn]

I'd just point out that salaries are going up because the NFL's revenues are going up quickly, so the salary cap keeps rising.

I'm OK with sharing it with the multi-millionaire athletes instead of the billionaire owners keeping it, though it would be nice to see more of the revenue benefits trickle down to fans in the form of cheaper in-stadium food or cheaper parking or whatever to improve the fan experience.

As for JSN, that guy deserves his contract. He was amazingly productive at his position and his team just won the Super Bowl. It's the guys who get paid big bucks and don't produce who bother me more (especially the whiners).

Jets are paying $48 million this year to two QBs who are no longer on their roster lol.  And then there are Kyler and Tua ... Cards and Dolphins are eating close to $150 million in dead cap space for those two. Situations like those bother me more than a younger player like JSN getting paid on a second contract.

Edited 11 hours ago by ArizonaLonghorn

[Forrest J.]

9 minutes ago, ArizonaLonghorn said:

I'd just point out that salaries are going up because the NFL's revenues are going up quickly, so the salary cap keeps rising.

I'm OK with sharing it with the multi-millionaire athletes instead of the billionaire owners keeping it, though it would be nice to see more of the revenue benefits trickle down to fans in the form of cheaper in-stadium food or cheaper parking or whatever to improve the fan experience.

As for JSN, that guy deserves his contract. He was amazingly productive at his position and his team just won the Super Bowl. It's the guys who get paid big bucks and don't produce who bother me more (especially the whiners).

Jets are paying $48 million this year to two QBs who are no longer on their roster lol.  And then there are Kyler and Tua ... Cards and Dolphins are eating close to $150 million in dead cap space for those two. Situations like those bother me more than a younger player like JSN getting paid on a second contract.

Right!  Per the CBA, the NFL has to pay a certain percentage of its revenue to the players (and teams have a minimum salary cap that they can’t go below) so when the league’s revenue increases, so does the player’s salaries. I find it interesting how the football leagues make billions, but still a certain faction of fans would prefer to see the players get paid little to nothing in comparison to those billions.  🤔

[Aspann85]

No one said anything negative about the players making more. It’s just crazy that we are in a time where there is THAT much money flowing through the sports. I like the idea stated above of having it trickle down to fans with lower prices since most of the money is TV or ad revenue and not tickets and concessions though those obviously play a role. The curve of how quickly the money is going up is what I was referring to. The last 10 years have been crazy exponential compared to the previous 50-60.

[MBHORNSFAN]

2 hours ago, Dread-headed Texan said:

I gave up on professional sports a long time ago. College has their portal mess that needs to be cleaned up, but it still makes me feel something and brings me joy. 

 

The Portal is here to stay.  It is what it is. 

 

Also the Portal mess you speak of allowed Texas to bring in several elite starters that likely has propelled us to a NC contender.

Edited 8 hours ago by MBHORNSFAN

[Here for the Wins]

2 hours ago, MBHORNSFAN said:

 

The Portal is here to stay.  It is what it is. 

 

Also the Portal mess you speak of allowed Texas to bring in several elite starters that likely has propelled us to a NC contender.

We would have been national champ contenders without portal additions.  There’s only one position group that looks to be substantially better than it would otherwise be without the impact of the portal.  And that’s conceivable that the two best players are homegrown.

Biles is a top addition, but it’s not as though Lefau was insignificant.

Now, if you say took us to the top of the list, maybe.

[Here for the Wins]

5 hours ago, ArizonaLonghorn said:

I'm OK with sharing it with the multi-millionaire athletes instead of the billionaire owners keeping it, though it would be nice to see more of the revenue benefits trickle down to fans in the form of cheaper in-stadium food or cheaper parking or whatever to improve the fan experience.

Not near enough of this discussion.

[MBHORNSFAN]

56 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

We would have been national champ contenders without portal additions.  There’s only one position group that looks to be substantially better than it would otherwise be without the impact of the portal.  And that’s conceivable that the two best players are homegrown.

Biles is a top addition, but it’s not as though Lefau was insignificant.

Now, if you say took us to the top of the list, maybe.

 

We picked up 2 OL starters, both RB starters, several DT and the best WR.  Without all that we are no way close to a NC contender.  

[Here for the Wins]

21 minutes ago, MBHORNSFAN said:

 

We picked up 2 OL starters, both RB starters, several DT and the best WR.  Without all that we are no way close to a NC contender.  

So you’re saying that all other teams have an Arch, a Collin Simmons, a McDonald, a Goosby?

Seriously, find me 5 other teams with a core anywhere near that.  The draft will tell, but there are few teams every year that produce 3 1st round picks.

Then you got Wingo, January, Terry, Baker, TyAnthony Smith.  Landon Jackson, Umeozulu at DE.  Robertson.  There’s no guarantee that a homegrown guy doesn’t take the other guard spot.  Williams was solid recruit.  Littleton, Black, Phillips, Roberson, Niblett as PR.

 

I know exactly who we picked up and who we lost.  Five of the top 10 teams from last year lose their QB.  Miami and Tech lose much of their DLine and/or OLine.  Similar for Indiana.  Ohio State loses a bunch on defense.  A&Ms Oline is gone.

We were very competitive last year.  With the most difficult schedule.  With injuries.  And we lost fewer high end guys than the other likely contenders.  But sure, the team that’s been a top 3-5 team over the past 3 seasons would not have been a competitor.

[MBHORNSFAN]

36 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

So you’re saying that all other teams have an Arch, a Collin Simmons, a McDonald, a Goosby?

Seriously, find me 5 other teams with a core anywhere near that.  The draft will tell, but there are few teams every year that produce 3 1st round picks.

Then you got Wingo, January, Terry, Baker, TyAnthony Smith.  Landon Jackson, Umeozulu at DE.  Robertson.  There’s no guarantee that a homegrown guy doesn’t take the other guard spot.  Williams was solid recruit.  Littleton, Black, Phillips, Roberson, Niblett as PR.

 

I know exactly who we picked up and who we lost.  Five of the top 10 teams from last year lose their QB.  Miami and Tech lose much of their DLine and/or OLine.  Similar for Indiana.  Ohio State loses a bunch on defense.  A&Ms Oline is gone.

We were very competitive last year.  With the most difficult schedule.  With injuries.  And we lost fewer high end guys than the other likely contenders.  But sure, the team that’s been a top 3-5 team over the past 3 seasons would not have been a competitor.

 

This team is better because of the portal. Much better. 

[Here for the Wins]

53 minutes ago, MBHORNSFAN said:

 

This team is better because of the portal. Much better. 

So from contender to team to beat.  Got it.

[Califashorn75]

Too bad I am 68. 

[Califashorn75]

Can you imagine what the owners make annually? 

[MBHORNSFAN]

34 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

So from contender to team to beat.  Got it.

Nope.

 

If you think this team was a contender without all the portal adds I really don't know what to tell you. We picked up at least 6-7 starters from the portal.  

[Here for the Wins]

15 minutes ago, MBHORNSFAN said:

Nope.

 

If you think this team was a contender without all the portal adds I really don't know what to tell you. We picked up at least 6-7 starters from the portal.  

I gave you an opportunity to provide some depth to your point.  You had no interest in doing so.

It is not only what your team has that makes you a contender but those also in contention.  

Almost all the contenders lost more high level players than we did.  We return more high level players at premium positions than anyone.

Guys like Deandre Moore, Wisner, Baxter were contributors to previous contending teams.  But sure all 3 are certain to be shittier next year than they have been previously.  We aren’t trading for NFL first rounders and giving up JV  high school players.

You’ve got your opinion.  I am interested in information but don’t need you to tell me anything.