ESPN: Three teams on upset alert this weekend

[Gerry Hamilton]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/50077717/connelly-alabama-ohio-state-college-football-week-5-ranked-teams-upset-alert

[Bunk Moreland]

This is a bit off topic, but it is enormously frustrating to see Keelon Russell as a true freshman dramatically outplaying Arch in his 4th year at Texas. It makes me think that Deboer is much, much better than Sark at either finding guys who can succeed in his system, or adapting his system to fit his QB’s strengths. Sark has never had a qb at Texas in the same ballpark as Penix, but that’s what Quinn and Arch were supposed to be. I don’t know if it’s a Sark issue or a Milwee issue. But Deboer makes them look like amateurs at QB development and maximizing his QBs’ talents.

[lemthekite]

 

Bunk Moreland said:

This is a bit off topic, but it is enormously frustrating to see Keelon Russell as a true freshman dramatically outplaying Arch in his 4th year at Texas. It makes me think that Deboer is much, much better than Sark at either finding guys who can succeed in his system, or adapting his system to fit his QB’s strengths. Sark has never had a qb at Texas in the same ballpark as Penix, but that’s what Quinn and Arch were supposed to be. I don’t know if it’s a Sark issue or a Milwee issue. But Deboer makes them look like amateurs at QB development and maximizing his QBs’ talents.

 

Keelon's start definitely makes the QB development gap look rough, especially with Arch having so much more time in the program. Still feels early to write the whole book on Arch, but Texas needs the offense to stop looking this constrained.

[Nostradaveyus]

17 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said:

This is a bit off topic, but it is enormously frustrating to see Keelon Russell as a true freshman dramatically outplaying Arch in his 4th year at Texas. It makes me think that Deboer is much, much better than Sark at either finding guys who can succeed in his system, or adapting his system to fit his QB’s strengths. Sark has never had a qb at Texas in the same ballpark as Penix, but that’s what Quinn and Arch were supposed to be. I don’t know if it’s a Sark issue or a Milwee issue. But Deboer makes them look like amateurs at QB development and maximizing his QBs’ talents.

RS freshman but point stands 

[LonghornFan4Ever]

21 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said:

This is a bit off topic, but it is enormously frustrating to see Keelon Russell as a true freshman dramatically outplaying Arch in his 4th year at Texas. It makes me think that Deboer is much, much better than Sark at either finding guys who can succeed in his system, or adapting his system to fit his QB’s strengths. Sark has never had a qb at Texas in the same ballpark as Penix, but that’s what Quinn and Arch were supposed to be. I don’t know if it’s a Sark issue or a Milwee issue. But Deboer makes them look like amateurs at QB development and maximizing his QBs’ talents.

Yep, a lot of people thought DeBoer was just a Penix merchant, but that couldn't be further from the truth.  DeBoer has always had good to great play from the QBs and WRs he's coached during his coaching career as a head coach and offensive coordinator.

[WRNC]

Brian Kelly's Missouri upset case

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/college-sports/brian-kelly-sends-college-football-upset-alert-ahead-of-major-week-5-clash/ar-AA2dmALt?ocid=widgetonlockscreenwin10&cvid=6abec0eb5a204bcab2b7cfff49f44816&ei=57

[genevalonghorn]

I think it is more likely that everything is chalk than there is any upset this weekend.

[pinkman_90]

1 hour ago, Bunk Moreland said:

This is a bit off topic, but it is enormously frustrating to see Keelon Russell as a true freshman dramatically outplaying Arch in his 4th year at Texas. It makes me think that Deboer is much, much better than Sark at either finding guys who can succeed in his system, or adapting his system to fit his QB’s strengths. Sark has never had a qb at Texas in the same ballpark as Penix, but that’s what Quinn and Arch were supposed to be. I don’t know if it’s a Sark issue or a Milwee issue. But Deboer makes them look like amateurs at QB development and maximizing his QBs’ talents.

Also keep in mind Bama has played one team in the top 50 defenses (EPA / play) in Kentucky.  Keelon went 16/23 188 yds 1TD 2 INTs (pick 6) with a QBR of 43.  Not really about DeBoer/Sark because I agree with you but more so just pumping the breaks on Keelon with a 4 game sample sizes.   

 

[hookem1014]

1 hour ago, LonghornFan4Ever said:

Yep, a lot of people thought DeBoer was just a Penix merchant, but that couldn't be further from the truth.  DeBoer has always had good to great play from the QBs and WRs he's coached during his coaching career as a head coach and offensive coordinator.

He also had a RB playing QB his first year at Alabama. Simpson and so far Russell have both been great. I also question development at the position here. Two #1 overall rated recruits at QB who have not been on that same level. Fingers need to be pointed at Milwee more imo

[HookemTexas]

27 minutes ago, hookem1014 said:

He also had a RB playing QB his first year at Alabama. Simpson and so far Russell have both been great. I also question development at the position here. Two #1 overall rated recruits at QB who have not been on that same level. Fingers need to be pointed at Milwee more imo

I think part of the issue is Sark is trying to make his QBs play like NFL QBs and doesn't build his system to their strengths, they have to learn his system the way he built it.  Which is fine and dandy when you have a QB with those skills sets.  Deboer, Kiffin, etc. utilize QB friendly systems with easy quick reads.

Additionally, I think it was Bobby or someone who mentioned this morning that it doesn't seem like Arch can audible when he sees something the defense is showing.  So basically if the defense called the right D, he's handcuffed.  Sark does motions to see what the defense is going to be and then makes his play call; well today's defenses are advanced enough to show one thing and actually be something else.  In essence, they could be baiting Sark into doing what they wanted him to do.

My data points would be - when he runs out of choices and has to let Arch play backyard football with no huddle and quick reads.  Arch seems to perform significantly better.

[hookem1014]

3 minutes ago, HookemTexas said:

I think part of the issue is Sark is trying to make his QBs play like NFL QBs and doesn't build his system to their strengths, they have to learn his system the way he built it.  Which is fine and dandy when you have a QB with those skills sets.  Deboer, Kiffin, etc. utilize QB friendly systems with easy quick reads.

Additionally, I think it was Bobby or someone who mentioned this morning that it doesn't seem like Arch can audible when he sees something the defense is showing.  So basically if the defense called the right D, he's handcuffed.  Sark does motions to see what the defense is going to be and then makes his play call; well today's defenses are advanced enough to show one thing and actually be something else.  In essence, they could be baiting Sark into doing what they wanted him to do.

My data points would be - when he runs out of choices and has to let Arch play backyard football with no huddle and quick reads.  Arch seems to perform significantly better.

Sounds like he needs an OC 🫠 (beating a dead horse I know)