Arch vs Colt vs Vince - through first 19 starts..

[Gaurav Bagga]

Here is the side-by-side comparison of their statistics through their first 19 career starts:

Arch Manning

· Record (Top 10 Opps): 16-3 (4-2)

· Passing: 358/573 (62.4%), 4,633 yards, 41 TD, 11 INT (148.7 rating)

· Rushing: 130 carries, 588 yards, 13 TD

· Total Yards / Total TDs: 5,221 / 54

Colt McCoy

· Record (Top 10 Opps): 14-5 (0-2)

· Passing: 354/530 (66.8%), 4,148 yards, 39 TD, 17 INT (150.4 rating)

· Rushing: 105 carries, 248 yards, 2 TD

· Total Yards / Total TDs: 4,396 / 41

Vince Young

· Record (Top 10 Opps): 16-3 (0-2)

· Passing: 205/346 (59.2%), 2,593 yards, 16 TD, 17 INT (127.6 rating)

· Rushing: 249 carries, 1,621 yards, 16 TD

· Total Yards / Total TDs: 4,214 / 32

Edited 13 hours ago by Gaurav Bagga

[Sundancekid]

There is some perspective that noone seems to want to acknowledge. Thanks!

[Forrest J.]

10 minutes ago, Sundancekid said:

There is some perspective that noone seems to want to acknowledge. Thanks!

It’s a historical perspective that really has no bearing on the 2026 team or season. Fun to look at and compare, but means absolutely nothing in regards to this team. 

[Ryan Clement]

I think something that is overlooked when comparing stats is the eye test. I remember watching colt and Vince and both of them passed the eye test more often then not. Arch looks lost at times or not seeing the whole field. He also holds onto the ball too long. Seems like he isnt comfortable playing what sark is calling right now. 

[Alex Butler]

2 hours ago, Gaurav Bagga said:

Here is the side-by-side comparison of their statistics through their first 19 career starts:

Arch Manning

· Record (Top 10 Opps): 16-3 (4-2)

· Passing: 358/573 (62.4%), 4,633 yards, 41 TD, 11 INT (148.7 rating)

· Rushing: 130 carries, 588 yards, 13 TD

· Total Yards / Total TDs: 5,221 / 54

Colt McCoy

· Record (Top 10 Opps): 14-5 (0-2)

· Passing: 354/530 (66.8%), 4,148 yards, 39 TD, 17 INT (150.4 rating)

· Rushing: 105 carries, 248 yards, 2 TD

· Total Yards / Total TDs: 4,396 / 41

Vince Young

· Record (Top 10 Opps): 16-3 (0-2)

· Passing: 205/346 (59.2%), 2,593 yards, 16 TD, 17 INT (127.6 rating)

· Rushing: 249 carries, 1,621 yards, 16 TD

· Total Yards / Total TDs: 4,214 / 32

Thank you for this!! The top 10 record is CRAZY! The fact that he’s faced so many more top ten teams and still had the success he has is pretty remarkable! Let’s go get some this weekend!!!

[Alex Butler]

4 hours ago, Gaurav Bagga said:

Here is the side-by-side comparison of their statistics through their first 19 career starts:

Arch Manning

· Record (Top 10 Opps): 16-3 (4-2)

· Passing: 358/573 (62.4%), 4,633 yards, 41 TD, 11 INT (148.7 rating)

· Rushing: 130 carries, 588 yards, 13 TD

· Total Yards / Total TDs: 5,221 / 54

Colt McCoy

· Record (Top 10 Opps): 14-5 (0-2)

· Passing: 354/530 (66.8%), 4,148 yards, 39 TD, 17 INT (150.4 rating)

· Rushing: 105 carries, 248 yards, 2 TD

· Total Yards / Total TDs: 4,396 / 41

Vince Young

· Record (Top 10 Opps): 16-3 (0-2)

· Passing: 205/346 (59.2%), 2,593 yards, 16 TD, 17 INT (127.6 rating)

· Rushing: 249 carries, 1,621 yards, 16 TD

· Total Yards / Total TDs: 4,214 / 32

@RN_surgery I’m sure you were calling for the benching of VY and Colt as well as Mack and Greg Davis’ jobs. Evidence helps us inform decisions on and off the football field. 

[Gaurav Bagga]

7 hours ago, Ryan Clement said:

I think something that is overlooked when comparing stats is the eye test. I remember watching colt and Vince and both of them passed the eye test more often then not. Arch looks lost at times or not seeing the whole field. He also holds onto the ball too long. Seems like he isnt comfortable playing what sark is calling right now. 

VY was also consistently failing the eye test.. people were crying for him to switch to play TE or WR. 

Arch is on a historically great trajectory - stats wise and quality of wins wise. We need to support and believe in him..!!

[Califashorn75]

I love Arch but he has disappointed this year. I won't give up on him because good Arch is pretty good. Plus realistically Sark won't bench him. 

[TheRoJoShow]

That’s a fair comparison but it doesn’t change what is showing up on tape at the current moment. He’s indecisive, struggling to process, inconsistent with accuracy, and is panicking in the pocket. 
 

Sark has to figure out how to get him more comfortable.

Edited 54 minutes ago by TheRoJoShow

[Jordan91]

Man at least get to a CFP. Vince? He lost one game in two years! He won the first national title in over thirty years! Colt would have one the national title but he got hurt. That’s just embarrassing. Comparing them is essentially saying he’s going to win one too. Good grief.