hookemrj13 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 33 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said: To this point, there has been one silent commit (or Hi) to Texas not end up at Texas. There have been multiple prospects already commit to Texas publicly that were that. There are a few still out there ... time will tell on how it shakes out, but to this point the prospects that have told Texas they were coming have followed through with the exception of one. If Texas went 8 out of every 10 in that scenario, they would take that. Josiah Sharma was not a Hi. With that said, he told multiple colleges he was going to Texas the day before his decision (even gave quotes to people in the industry for commitment day stories), and changed up the morning of his announcement. Gerry, I am sorry that you and others feel the need to defend yourselves to some blow-hard, pants pissing whiner. I for one, appreciate the time and effort you (and others) give to getting us the news and updates, good or bad, its part of the game. The jokes are cool (Hamilton curse) but to say that they are leading us on or giving false reports or news? where tf are people thinking this? Gerry was dying in Florida for us the other day! People need to GTFO with some of the crazy. Hook em 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhenk6768 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 39 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said: To this point, there has been one silent commit (or Hi) to Texas not end up at Texas. There have been multiple prospects already commit to Texas publicly that were that. There are a few still out there ... time will tell on how it shakes out, but to this point the prospects that have told Texas they were coming have followed through with the exception of one. If Texas went 8 out of every 10 in that scenario, they would take that. Josiah Sharma was not a Hi. With that said, he told multiple colleges he was going to Texas the day before his decision (even gave quotes to people in the industry for commitment day stories), and changed up the morning of his announcement. The guys here at OTF are giving honest information as they receive it. They are not gaslighting or misleading anyone. It's not their fault if high school kids do not follow through with what they say or change their minds (e.g. Sharma) Pointing the finger at the mods and calling them unreliable is unwarranted and unnecessary 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobe moldrem Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 11 hours ago, Gerry Hamilton said: Oregon is on another level in this cycle ... pretty impressive so far. Texas will keep trying to chip away ... They got Wilson on campus in June for UOV under the radar... see if Oregon keeps him shut down. Wilson has had an OV scheduled for FSU in November for the UF game for a while. Will he OV to FSU or Texas in the fall or will the Ducks keep it shut down? i don’t know, we pay for you to tell us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goattalk100 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 47 minutes ago, kobe moldrem said: i don’t know, we pay for you to tell us You know you’re not paying for a fortune teller right 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Lane Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, kobe moldrem said: i don’t know, we pay for you to tell us Oh boy......sigh!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, kobe moldrem said: i don’t know, we pay for you to tell us You can always stop paying if you don't like the content 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Gilbert Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 hours ago, kobe moldrem said: i don’t know, we pay for you to tell us How would Gerry or anyone on any UT board know what is going on except for what he is told by the player, family member, or a coach? Do players, agents, or family members have agendas that Gerry does not know? Probably. For example, Sharma told numerous people he was coming to Texas but changed his mind. DK committed to UT on his OV but changed his mind. We are talking about 16, 17, 18 year olds who are a bundle of hormones who change their minds quicker than some run a 40. If you feel that you are being deceived or not getting money’s worth…leave. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornmatic Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 hours ago, kobe moldrem said: i don’t know, we pay for you to tell us Throwing your toys out the pram like an infant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos21 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 7 hours ago, hookemrj13 said: Gerry, I am sorry that you and others feel the need to defend yourselves to some blow-hard, pants pissing whiner. I for one, appreciate the time and effort you (and others) give to getting us the news and updates, good or bad, its part of the game. The jokes are cool (Hamilton curse) but to say that they are leading us on or giving false reports or news? where tf are people thinking this? Gerry was dying in Florida for us the other day! People need to GTFO with some of the crazy. Hook em Guys, I feel like my original post generated some pretty negative posts and a need for Gerry to defend the process. As my original post noted, I never said Gerry or OTF was gaslighting or being anything but honest and hardworking. I pointed the finger at agent and kids (and probably family members). My exact observation was: "I think kids and agents are using services like this to spread false info and create demand to raise NIL…and we as subscribers are the “victims” … hard to believe recruiting nuggets and HI’s at this point…" I stand by this. I think the job of Gerry and others in this business is made even more difficult because now there is enormous incentive for others to embellish, lie, etc. to drive up fan interest, fan demand to specific players which then helps drive up NIL. So, they might give signs of a "Hi" so outlets talk about them and promote them, only to drive up the price of another destination. So, sorry if somehow what I said was a dispersion to Gerry and OTF...it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPickleTexas Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JassoJaden24 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 12 minutes ago, BigPickleTexas said: No guys he’s not committing to us lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gerry Hamilton Posted July 11 Author Moderators Share Posted July 11 7 hours ago, kobe moldrem said: i don’t know, we pay for you to tell us What I mean is that will have to play out during the season … winding road Recruiting doesn’t stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gerry Hamilton Posted July 11 Author Moderators Share Posted July 11 39 minutes ago, Brazos21 said: Guys, I feel like my original post generated some pretty negative posts and a need for Gerry to defend the process. As my original post noted, I never said Gerry or OTF was gaslighting or being anything but honest and hardworking. I pointed the finger at agent and kids (and probably family members). My exact observation was: "I think kids and agents are using services like this to spread false info and create demand to raise NIL…and we as subscribers are the “victims” … hard to believe recruiting nuggets and HI’s at this point…" I stand by this. I think the job of Gerry and others in this business is made even more difficult because now there is enormous incentive for others to embellish, lie, etc. to drive up fan interest, fan demand to specific players which then helps drive up NIL. So, they might give signs of a "Hi" so outlets talk about them and promote them, only to drive up the price of another destination. So, sorry if somehow what I said was a dispersion to Gerry and OTF...it wasn't. When I post a Hi … that doesn’t come from a prospect or agent. Just to be clear 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gerry Hamilton Posted July 11 Author Moderators Share Posted July 11 Here’s the one thing I will say about recruiting that has never changed or will change Fans want the best hint or current update on their teams chances for a prospect … Fans want the info, that will never change. Some fan will also take the negative news or change in a recruitment with the mindset that the info was wrong or sources were wrong … the part of that is missed in those scenarios is the likelihood that even the schools recruiting a prospect were surprised or caught off guard by the switch or change of direction. Recruiting is a winding road, more than ever due to NIL, even for the college coaches. The whole industry business marketing part of the game with Crystal Ball and RPM’s has drastically changed how fans react to negative news or changes in a recruitment. That marketing has been great for subscription sales in the industry, but it’s also greatly changed the way fans react when a recruitment shifts or changes. Make no mistake, there is pressure applied to employees to make pics (a lot of times much earlier than desired) to sell subs/traffic through recruiting prospect hype. That might not be a popular thing to say, but it’s factual. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watty7796 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 minute ago, Gerry Hamilton said: Here’s the one thing I will say about recruiting that has never changed or will change Fans want the best hint or current update on their teams chances for a prospect … Fans want the info, that will never change. Some fan will also take the negative news or change in a recruitment with the mindset that the info was wrong or sources were wrong … the part of that is missed in those scenarios is the likelihood that even the schools recruiting a prospect were surprised or caught off guard by the switch or change of direction. Recruiting is a winding road, more than ever due to NIL, even for the college coaches. The whole industry business marketing part of the game with Crystal Ball and RPM’s has drastically changed how fans react to negative news or changes in a recruitment. That marketing has been great for subscription sales in the industry, but it’s also greatly changed the way fans react when a recruitment shifts or changes. Make no mistake, there is pressure applied to employees to make pics (a lot of times much earlier than desired) to sell subs/traffic through recruiting prospect hype. That might not be a popular thing to say, but it’s factual. Much respect....I would not want to be in your place with the sort of pressure put on you. Takes a different type of personality to deal with the nonsense. Keep on keeping on. Thanks for the bits of info you can and do provide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornmatic Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 34 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said: Here’s the one thing I will say about recruiting that has never changed or will change Fans want the best hint or current update on their teams chances for a prospect … Fans want the info, that will never change. Some fan will also take the negative news or change in a recruitment with the mindset that the info was wrong or sources were wrong … the part of that is missed in those scenarios is the likelihood that even the schools recruiting a prospect were surprised or caught off guard by the switch or change of direction. Recruiting is a winding road, more than ever due to NIL, even for the college coaches. The whole industry business marketing part of the game with Crystal Ball and RPM’s has drastically changed how fans react to negative news or changes in a recruitment. That marketing has been great for subscription sales in the industry, but it’s also greatly changed the way fans react when a recruitment shifts or changes. Make no mistake, there is pressure applied to employees to make pics (a lot of times much earlier than desired) to sell subs/traffic through recruiting prospect hype. That might not be a popular thing to say, but it’s factual. Correct. We want the info and facts on the ground as well as conjecture and your personal opinion on matters. You and OTF deliver both at an extremely high level. Not much you can do or say for people that want you to be soothsayers. It’s also laughable that people seriously think you would intentionally mislead or gaslight to gain subs. Pulling the rug out on a passionate fan base is the worst business model I can think of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NothinButDaHorns34 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, BigPickleTexas said: Trolling for attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPickleTexas Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just now, NothinButDaHorns34 said: Trolling for attention He’s a Texas Longhorn until proven otherwise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NothinButDaHorns34 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 4 minutes ago, BigPickleTexas said: He’s a Texas Longhorn until proven otherwise. Highly doubt it but we’ll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SADBoyzUnite Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 44 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said: Here’s the one thing I will say about recruiting that has never changed or will change Fans want the best hint or current update on their teams chances for a prospect … Fans want the info, that will never change. Some fan will also take the negative news or change in a recruitment with the mindset that the info was wrong or sources were wrong … the part of that is missed in those scenarios is the likelihood that even the schools recruiting a prospect were surprised or caught off guard by the switch or change of direction. Recruiting is a winding road, more than ever due to NIL, even for the college coaches. The whole industry business marketing part of the game with Crystal Ball and RPM’s has drastically changed how fans react to negative news or changes in a recruitment. That marketing has been great for subscription sales in the industry, but it’s also greatly changed the way fans react when a recruitment shifts or changes. Make no mistake, there is pressure applied to employees to make pics (a lot of times much earlier than desired) to sell subs/traffic through recruiting prospect hype. That might not be a popular thing to say, but it’s factual. Appreciate this type of reflection and insight. As a fan, following recruiting is part of the fandom. UT won’t win 100% of recruitments, but even following it through the ups and downs is enjoyable. At the end of the day, I’m not gonna give up on following recruiting just because NIL and other changes make the road more curvy. I just got to buckle up and enjoy the ride. It’s this or politics/other news. Think I know which one I’m picking 100/100 times lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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