Hoops: College coaching carousel 2025

[Jordan91]

Just now, Hashtag said:

Sure so long as their collegiate resume is as good as Fews. Should be go after Pops? 

Few is a no brainer three years ago. Now I would prefer a younger coach. I am going to support whoever it is but he is not at the top of my wish list. 

[Hashtag]

1 minute ago, Jordan91 said:

Few is a no brainer three years ago. Now I would prefer a younger coach. I am going to support whoever it is but he is not at the top of my wish list. 

I agree and I've all been for younger coach push. I want our next coach to be here for 5-15 years at least and his next job be NBA HC. That means we got us a dang good one.

Edited March 4 by Hashtag

[bierce]

18 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

Why? Mark Few is better than every other coach in the history of our program. I think he's maxed out Gonzaga and may want to get his shot a ring. Texas isn't a complete rebuild and it doesn't take 3-4 years to turn around a basketball team in this era. He is old(62) but we could get him for 6-8 years that would be good to jump start where we want our program to be.

Some guys care more about their life away from the basketball court than they do about their legacy as a coach. 

Few is one of those guys.

He's completely happy where he is, three and a half year old offseason dui incident notwithstanding. 

[Hashtag]

1 minute ago, bierce said:

Some guys care more about their life away from the basketball court than they do about their legacy as a coach. 

Few is one of those guys.

He's completely happy where he is, three and a half year old offseason dui incident notwithstanding. 

Spoiler

 

[bierce]

Other than being guys who created powerhouses at a smaller conference program, Garrido and Few are nothing alike.  Garrido loved wine, women, song, and limelight.  Few loves fly fishing and staying out of the public eye. 

"Augie is a baseball lifer, but he was the life of the party, too. He was dashing and debonair, and loved women, food and booze - not necessarily in that order. He always embraced the spotlight but there was little of it at Fullerton even after all that success. After the 1996 season, when Texas came calling in the wake of the sudden ouster of its legendary coach Cliff Gustafson, Augie jumped at the chance."

https://fullertonbaseball.blogspot.com/

Edited March 4 by bierce

[TexasFanatic]

33 minutes ago, bierce said:

Other than being guys who created powerhouses at a smaller conference program, Garrido and Few are nothing alike.  Garrido loved wine, women, song, and limelight.  Few loves fly fishing and staying out of the public eye. 

"Augie is a baseball lifer, but he was the life of the party, too. He was dashing and debonair, and loved women, food and booze - not necessarily in that order. He always embraced the spotlight but there was little of it at Fullerton even after all that success. After the 1996 season, when Texas came calling in the wake of the sudden ouster of its legendary coach Cliff Gustafson, Augie jumped at the chance."

https://fullertonbaseball.blogspot.com/

Just sell Few on life in the Hill Country 

[bierce]

8 minutes ago, TexasFanatic said:

Just sell Few on life in the Hill Country 

And the beauty of both moving away from grown children and taking your 16 year old away from his high school.

Give it up, guys.

Few

is

happy

where

he

is.

[Hashtag]

9 minutes ago, bierce said:

And the beauty of both moving away from grown children and taking your 16 year old away from his high school.

Give it up, guys.

Few

is

happy

where

he

is.

Is he though? I know he had legitimate interest in the job recently. 

[bierce]

43 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

Is he though? I know he had legitimate interest in the job recently. 

I'll believe Few will leave when he announces he is leaving.  I wouldn't much mind having him, but I would worry that he'd be an unmotivated guy only in it for the paycheck.  He's a hall of famer with or without a title, and he knows it.

[jkates]

 

[John Moore]

Rodney Terry to Miami bench

[Gerry Hamilton]

1 hour ago, John Moore said:

Rodney Terry to Miami bench

Frank Haith will want that one bad IMO

He has his retirement house in Coral Gables area 

[bierce]

27 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Frank Haith will want that one bad IMO

He has his retirement house in Coral Gables area 

Would he be greeted with pitchforks?

[Gerry Hamilton]

29 minutes ago, bierce said:

Would he be greeted with pitchforks?

Haha!!! 

[Shea Cook]

@Gerry Hamilton

Unless I’ve missed it, nobody has mentioned Eric Musselman. Why not him?? In five years at Arky, he had back to back elite 8’s and one sweet 16 (even as an 8 seed). He would’ve made the tourney in 2020 too but Covid happened. Two of those years, he lost to the eventual national champion. Not to mention, 3 tournament appearances at Nevada with one sweet 16.

 

People keep mentioning Texas needing a head coach with energy for the fans and he would absolutely do that. Also, he was an elite recruiter and is familiar with the area. Texas had to roll with an unproven guy and it failed. He’s an elite recruiter with a good scheme, proven track record and a guy who would energize Texas BB. 
 

 

[bierce]

Musselman lost a bit of luster with the craptastic season Arky had last year, calling into question his ability to integrate players from the portal.  He seemed to do fine with it in 2022-23, but last year was a disaster.

He spent part of his youth in San Diego, went to college in San Diego, and spent most of his adult life in California/Nevada/Arizona, and he seemed to be always looking to get back to the west coast.  He's not really happy with the travel demands at USC, but he knew they would be there when he took the job. 

So I don't know if he is very interested in leaving USC, but give him another year of wondering if the entire state is going up in flames, then he might. 

[Jordan91]

1 hour ago, Shea Cook said:

@Gerry Hamilton

Unless I’ve missed it, nobody has mentioned Eric Musselman. Why not him?? In five years at Arky, he had back to back elite 8’s and one sweet 16 (even as an 8 seed). He would’ve made the tourney in 2020 too but Covid happened. Two of those years, he lost to the eventual national champion. Not to mention, 3 tournament appearances at Nevada with one sweet 16.

 

People keep mentioning Texas needing a head coach with energy for the fans and he would absolutely do that. Also, he was an elite recruiter and is familiar with the area. Texas had to roll with an unproven guy and it failed. He’s an elite recruiter with a good scheme, proven track record and a guy who would energize Texas BB. 
 

 

We had a coach with energy. Shaka jumped all over the place. 

[bierce]

By which standard is Musselman "familiar with the area?"  He was an SEC coach for a few years, true.  He got one great recruit from Texas (Anthony Black), but he never landed any other HS recruits from Texas, so I don't quite agree with the selling point of him being Texas-savvy. 

[Hashtag]

Unsure what the record is since this date but was a fun tweet

[Shea Cook]

22 minutes ago, bierce said:

Musselman lost a bit of luster with the craptastic season Arky had last year, calling into question his ability to integrate players from the portal.  He seemed to do fine with it in 2022-23, but last year was a disaster.

He spent part of his youth in San Diego, went to college in San Diego, and spent most of his adult life in California/Nevada/Arizona, and he seemed to be always looking to get back to the west coast.  He's not really happy with the travel demands at USC, but he knew they would be there when he took the job. 

So I don't know if he is very interested in leaving USC, but give him another year of wondering if the entire state is going up in flames, then he might. 

Last year was definitely rough but it seems like coaches have those years every once in a while (Scott Drew this year). I was trying to think of relatively recent success guys who might be able to be had from a salary standpoint. 
 

I’m guessing guys like Oats, Pearl, Hurley, Few and Self are unlikely based on salary/buyout. ITT Ivey and Snyder have been discussed. I’m sure I’m leaving out a few but could anyone below be had?

 

TJ Otzelberger, Eric Musselman, Tommy Lloyd, Mick Cronin, Dana Altman, Will Wade, Chris Jans, Greg McDermott, Brian Dutcher, Greg Guard

[bierce]

1 minute ago, Shea Cook said:

Last year was definitely rough but it seems like coaches have those years every once in a while (Scott Drew this year). I was trying to think of relatively recent success guys who might be able to be had from a salary standpoint. 
 

I’m guessing guys like Oats, Pearl, Hurley, Few and Self are unlikely based on salary/buyout. ITT Ivey and Snyder have been discussed. I’m sure I’m leaving out a few but could anyone below be had?

 

TJ Otzelberger, Eric Musselman, Tommy Lloyd, Mick Cronin, Dana Altman, Will Wade, Chris Jans, Greg McDermott, Brian Dutcher, Greg Guard

If you are really looking at "from a salary viewpoint," then Lloyd is the first to take off the list.  Altman is probably second since he's in Nike backyard.  I suspect we can afford any of the remaining coaches if CDC is willing to pay the money, but each has his sticking points. 

Dutcher is 65.  McDermott is 60.  I still think (or maybe I'm being too wishful) that CDC will look for a potential generational hire.  Then again, Musselman is also 60. 

Jans most definitely does not excite me.  Gard won't excite anyone who didn't really care for Bo Ryan ball.  I found a lot of beauty in it, but a lot of people didn't. 

Wade is affordable, but not at all desired by our administration according to Gerry. 

Cronin seems to have a screw loose. 

Otzelberger is nearly deified in Ames, but his buyout is easily manageable. 

But I'm an outlier who thinks we should go for an up and coming coach rather than an established one.  Otzelberger and Wade are the only guys on your list who really pique my interest. 

[Shea Cook]

17 minutes ago, bierce said:

By which standard is Musselman "familiar with the area?"  He was an SEC coach for a few years, true.  He got one great recruit from Texas (Anthony Black), but he never landed any other HS recruits from Texas, so I don't quite agree with the selling point of him being Texas-savvy. 

Yeah, Texas-savvy isn’t what I was going for but I’m sure he’s still relatively familiar with the area after 5 years (having been in on the recruitments of Black, Holland and Morris). He had a couple of top 5 classes. He’d be more familiar with regional recruiting than a guy like Otzelberger or McCollum imo. 

[Shea Cook]

18 minutes ago, Hashtag said:

Unsure what the record is since this date but was a fun tweet

It’s been a tough go since. Granted, he’s only in year one at USC. However, that moment in the tweet was ONLY two years ago. Heck, we were on our way to the elite 8 that same year. 
 

The Quin Snyder discussion got me thinking about Musselman. Not saying he can’t coach but it’s been 20 years since Snyder was at a collegiate program. Whereas, Musselman had things going two years ago and had been consistent in just about every year before. Coaches have down years. Even Beard’s teams took a step back after his title run in 19. 

[Shea Cook]

15 minutes ago, bierce said:

If you are really looking at "from a salary viewpoint," then Lloyd is the first to take off the list.  Altman is probably second since he's in Nike backyard.  I suspect we can afford any of the remaining coaches if CDC is willing to pay the money, but each has his sticking points. 

Dutcher is 65.  McDermott is 60.  I still think (or maybe I'm being too wishful) that CDC will look for a potential generational hire.  Then again, Musselman is also 60. 

Jans most definitely does not excite me.  Gard won't excite anyone who didn't really care for Bo Ryan ball.  I found a lot of beauty in it, but a lot of people didn't. 

Wade is affordable, but not at all desired by our administration according to Gerry. 

Cronin seems to have a screw loose. 

Otzelberger is nearly deified in Ames, but his buyout is easily manageable. 

But I'm an outlier who thinks we should go for an up and coming coach rather than an established one.  Otzelberger and Wade are the only guys on your list who really pique my interest. 

I’m with you on TJ and Wade. I’m surprised Miller was going to be the guy in 23 when he had similar baggage to Wade. Maybe because Miller wasn’t sanctioned and Wade was? 

[bierce]

5 minutes ago, Shea Cook said:

I’m with you on TJ and Wade. I’m surprised Miller was going to be the guy in 23 when he had similar baggage to Wade. Maybe because Miller wasn’t sanctioned and Wade was? 

I think it more of an attitude thing with Wade.  He seems to delight in flouting authority.  I don't think that will fly with the university administration. 

But I'm not a fly on the wall in CDC's office.