Ohio St. names Sayin as starter

[Here for the Wins]

13 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

Beau Atkinson had 7.5 sacks himself last season as a backup at North Carolina.

But please don’t take my “unearned hype for Arch” as the insult it comes across as. There’s a very real chance Arch earns that hype against my Buckeyes. There’s a reason Texas are the favorites to win the national championship. Vegas loves Texas’ D and Vegas believes Arch is the real deal.

He’s probably a good player.  Had 6 sacks in back-to-back games.  Not sure what that means exactly.

[LovingBuckeye]

7 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

McDonald has played 247 snaps.  Houston 141.  Hartford 253.  McLain 107.  Montgomery 305.  Siev 495.  Peoples 94.  Sayin 27.

Arch 260.

 

Either act in good faith or don’t act at all.  But you are correct that not all experience is the same.

I am acting in good faith. All of those guys played prominent roles in the playoffs. I remember seeing Arch for one play and they didn’t let him throw against Ohio State.

Arch’s snaps are against Mississippi State and some team from Louisiana. All of those guys’ snaps were against Tennessee, Oregon, Texas, and Notre Dame.

[NoDakHornsFan]

6 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

He’s probably a good player.  Had 6 sacks in back-to-back games.  Not sure what that means exactly.

It means the 2024 FSU OL was awful.

[jonbailey]

6 hours ago, Ironmanz35 said:

 

Going to be aa great game....  Hoping for no injuries to either team and no BS calls by the Refs for either team.

I whole heartedly agree. 

[LovingBuckeye]

15 minutes ago, NoDakHornsFan said:

Didn’t you say earlier that Arch would struggle to pass in  front of 100,000 people and likely would only have success with his legs? You can’t have it both ways my guy. And if you think OSU will be -5.5, remember one thing. Don’t Get High Off Your Own Supply.

I just said on the road with 4/5 new OL my prediction is he will struggle. I also have the humility to admit I could be completely wrong and we leave that stadium as quiet as we did in 2005 😞

The line is going to move one way or the other hours before the game. It always does. You just think it’s going to go towards Texas, I think it’s going to go towards the home team. Neither prediction is off base, because it is going to move, we are both just guessing which way that will be.

[LovingBuckeye]

2 minutes ago, jonbailey said:

I whole heartedly agree. 

100%. The absolute worst thing that could happen is for the game to be decided by a controversial call and that be the talk of the season, rather than how great of a game it was and how Texas or Ohio State earned that one.

[NoDakHornsFan]

4 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

I just said on the road with 4/5 new OL my prediction is he will struggle. I also have the humility to admit I could be completely wrong and we leave that stadium as quiet as we did in 2005 😞

The line is going to move one way or the other hours before the game. It always does. You just think it’s going to go towards Texas, I think it’s going to go towards the home team. Neither prediction is off base, because it is going to move, we are both just guessing which way that will be.

Never said it would go towards Texas. Idk how much you bet or follow it but I do closely. There’s a better chance I suit up at LT than OSU is -5.5. Barring a catastrophic injury of course. I would guess that OSU is somewhere between -1 and -3 come kick.

[Okcool]

12 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

I just said on the road with 4/5 new OL my prediction is he will struggle. I also have the humility to admit I could be completely wrong and we leave that stadium as quiet as we did in 2005 😞

The line is going to move one way or the other hours before the game. It always does. You just think it’s going to go towards Texas, I think it’s going to go towards the home team. Neither prediction is off base, because it is going to move, we are both just guessing which way that will be.

Well it’s at -1.5 now big guy. Moving the wrong way for you. Vegas knows more often than not. The -3.5 was to reel in the Texas $$. 

[Here for the Wins]

40 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

I am acting in good faith. All of those guys played prominent roles in the playoffs. I remember seeing Arch for one play and they didn’t let him throw against Ohio State.

Arch’s snaps are against Mississippi State and some team from Louisiana. All of those guys’ snaps were against Tennessee, Oregon, Texas, and Notre Dame.

They really didn’t play a prominent role.  If you believe that, then you need to say we have 3/5 guys on the Oline because that’s how many have played “prominent” roles in championship or playoff games.  I’m guessing a number of those reps are in the final one or two drives after it was game over.

This is after you said they’ve played hundreds more snaps than Arch, which is clearly not the case.  For a QB, two starts is valuable.  There’s some value in the limited snaps versus UGa, A&M and OSU.  For him, more than his lack of experience, is whether he gets good pass protection.  Same for Sayin.  Reps certainly matter, but his pedigree is wholly unique.

By and large it’s evenly matched.

[Beard N Balls Bundle]

59 minutes ago, Okcool said:

Well it’s at -1.5 now big guy. Moving the wrong way for you. Vegas knows more often than not. The -3.5 was to reel in the Texas $$. 

-2 now

[LovingBuckeye]

1 hour ago, NoDakHornsFan said:

Never said it would go towards Texas. Idk how much you bet or follow it but I do closely. There’s a better chance I suit up at LT than OSU is -5.5. Barring a catastrophic injury of course. I would guess that OSU is somewhere between -1 and -3 come kick.

I primarily follow FanDuel. Ohio State is -2.5. If the spread only moved .5 after the smart money came in, I would be shocked. It’s going to move a couple points the morning of the game. We won’t know how the sharps are feeling about it until then. If I wake up and Texas is -.5 or it’s an even line, I’ll be extremely nervous.

[LovingBuckeye]

6 minutes ago, Beard N Balls Bundle said:

-2 now

It’s -2.5 on FD, the only book I use. The initial line and the line the morning of the game are the only lines that matter.

Right now it’s just casual gamblers moving the line. 

[LovingBuckeye]

29 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

They really didn’t play a prominent role.  If you believe that, then you need to say we have 3/5 guys on the Oline because that’s how many have played “prominent” roles in championship or playoff games.  I’m guessing a number of those reps are in the final one or two drives after it was game over.

This is after you said they’ve played hundreds more snaps than Arch, which is clearly not the case.  For a QB, two starts is valuable.  There’s some value in the limited snaps versus UGa, A&M and OSU.  For him, more than his lack of experience, is whether he gets good pass protection.  Same for Sayin.  Reps certainly matter, but his pedigree is wholly unique.

By and large it’s evenly matched.

I think you are going to find out the hard way on 8/30 that those guys are all experienced. Until then, we will just have to agree to disagree.

[LovingBuckeye]

1 hour ago, Okcool said:

Well it’s at -1.5 now big guy. Moving the wrong way for you. Vegas knows more often than not. The -3.5 was to reel in the Texas $$. 

Vegas set the initial line at -3.5. That’s what Vegas’ analytics are telling them. It’s the casual betting public who are moving the line right now, not Vegas. The smart money will come in Saturday morning before the game, that’s the movement to watch. The movement right now means nothing.

[Here for the Wins]

1 hour ago, LovingBuckeye said:

I think you are going to find out the hard way on 8/30 that those guys are all experienced. Until then, we will just have to agree to disagree.

No matter how it turns out your characterization of it all is off base.  You lack in honesty and consistency.

I get your point.  Montgomery and his 300 snaps is different than Goosby and his 300.  Hutson and his 1,300 doesn’t matter but Houston’s 140 is insurmountable.  Downs can do the work of 3 safeties.  Your fans no longer want to burn Day at the stake.

You seem representative of my experience with Buckeyes.  Well, at least those in my Columbus experience.  Dallas was different.

[Hookem72]

@LovingBuckeye

Thank you for supporting Bobby and the gang while you argue hypotheticals in the hope you will be correct on your message board predictions.  🤘

[LovingBuckeye]

1 hour ago, Here for the Wins said:

No matter how it turns out your characterization of it all is off base.  You lack in honesty and consistency.

I get your point.  Montgomery and his 300 snaps is different than Goosby and his 300.  Hutson and his 1,300 doesn’t matter but Houston’s 140 is insurmountable.  Downs can do the work of 3 safeties.  Your fans no longer want to burn Day at the stake.

You seem representative of my experience with Buckeyes.  Well, at least those in my Columbus experience.  Dallas was different.

Good luck on 8/30. It’s going to be an experience for all involved.

[LovingBuckeye]

48 minutes ago, Hookem72 said:

@LovingBuckeye

Thank you for supporting Bobby and the gang while you argue hypotheticals in the hope you will be correct on your message board predictions.  🤘

Is Bobby one of the guys on the Coffee & Football podcast? If so, I’m more than happy to support them. I like this podcast a lot.

[harveycmd]

Yes, Bobby is on the morning show. What's the deal with the big money Rice transfer not starting at tackle?