I am so glad Sark has welcomed Mack to the program...

[Oldest Horn]

11 hours ago, HelloThere said:

The committee was enamored with Patterson’s presentation and how he ran pro organizations. They felt that was the way colleges sports would be going and wanted to be ahead of the curve. (Man, were they wrong) Luck was a shoe in until then. Patterson would have preferred to keep Brown, although you are right that he was willing to pull the trigger if needed. But that wasn’t the reason for the hire. Luck would have pulled the trigger too if he was told to. 

100% agree that leadership was lacking from multiple positions at the time and DeLoss had a part in it, although he wanted Luck not Patterson. Powers was a major liability in all of it. 

My major point is that these decisions, especially Patterson were the biggest reasons for our decade of mediocrity, not Mack Brown. 

Patterson interviewed coaches that had used every connection they had to get the Texas job and they walked away after talking to him. Multiple coaches. It was that bad, but people really want to think Nick Saban was going to leave Alabama to come into that situation. 

Luck refused to fire Mack and insisted it be done before his hiring. Doesn’t say a lot about his leadership skills. 

[Oldest Horn]

13 hours ago, pinkman_90 said:

Uh help?  For sure not.  He can be a fan and remembered/celebrated as a coach who won a championship but he should in no way be more involved in the program than that. 

I seriously doubt he will be. He’s very happy hanging out with the BMD’s. 

[Hashtag]

29 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

Luck refused to fire Mack and insisted it be done before his hiring. Doesn’t say a lot about his leadership skills. 

Mack was Deloss and Powers problem. It should have been taken care of before the hiring of the next coach and AD. But as stated earlier the leadership on campus at the time was terrible. 

[Oldest Horn]

1 minute ago, Hashtag said:

Mack was Deloss and Powers problem. It should have been taken care of before the hiring of the next coach and AD. But as stated earlier the leadership on campus at the time was terrible. 

Well, it wasn’t going to. Luck could have simply done the deed with everyone knowing it wasn’t personal, just business. But he did not. Judging by his resume since I don’t think we missed out on much, although he wouldn’t have been the disaster Patterson was. 

[Philip Barber]

On 9/8/2025 at 7:08 PM, HelloThere said:

This is false and will always be false no matter how many times people say it and believe it.  Hate to tell yall this but the “Big Cigar” or whatever his name was fed the fan base multiple lies. 
 

Nick Saban was not going to work for Steve Patterson. It still amazes me that Mack takes all the blame for what Steve Patterson did to this program. 
 

Mack left it better than he found it. Once game away from playing for the Big 12 Championship. Patterson came in and completely wrecked everything from top to bottom. I cannot think of one thing he did that helped Texas in any way. Billy Lucci couldn’t have wrecked this athletic department worse than Patterson did. A complete disaster that took years to recover from. 
 

But let’s blame Mack Brown. It is so dumb. 

Rewrite of history, Mack was 5-7 after the Colt’s Senior season.  He had no clue what he was doing by then.  He was impressed with Bama and wanted to move the program into that style of play whereas Saban would adapt to the modern age of football.  Patterson didn’t recruit the talented bunch Brown left Charlie.  Patterson was a bad hire and not moving on from Mack in 2011 was a bad decision.  2010 1-6 in Big 12 2011. 4-5 2012 5-4 2013 7-2 but still lost 5 total.   His last ten years in CFB he averaged 5 losses a year.  Those are the facts.  Nice man.  Got lucky once with Vince.  Raise your hand who should be the ambassador of Texas Football, Mack or Vince?  

[Oldest Horn]

6 hours ago, Philip Barber said:

Rewrite of history, Mack was 5-7 after the Colt’s Senior season.  He had no clue what he was doing by then.  He was impressed with Bama and wanted to move the program into that style of play whereas Saban would adapt to the modern age of football.  Patterson didn’t recruit the talented bunch Brown left Charlie.  Patterson was a bad hire and not moving on from Mack in 2011 was a bad decision.  2010 1-6 in Big 12 2011. 4-5 2012 5-4 2013 7-2 but still lost 5 total.   His last ten years in CFB he averaged 5 losses a year.  Those are the facts.  Nice man.  Got lucky once with Vince.  Raise your hand who should be the ambassador of Texas Football, Mack or Vince?  

Mack. Far more effective at courting donors, chatting with fans, flattering recruits and shooting the breeze with HS coaches. which is what ambassadors do.