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OTF Premium The Case for More 10 Personnel | Sunday 10:35 p.m.
Alex Butler replied to CJ Vogel's topic in On Texas Football Forum
Would like to use Arch in that as a runner too. Definitely adds difficulty if they have to spy him which devotes one less defender. I’m very frustrated why we’re not attacking the middle if the field and linebackers more this year especially with these blitzes?! -
OTF Premium The Case for More 10 Personnel | Sunday 10:35 p.m.
Txhorn1213 replied to CJ Vogel's topic in On Texas Football Forum
I truly don’t know what is worse, that every person can see that this team is not only built to work mostly out of 10p or that every time we do run it, it produces our biggest plays and our HC refuses to run it until we have to (hence the 4th quarter drive to bishop). Even as a fan at the game, every time they set up in spread, just as an eye test look so much better for a run play. I’m starting to let my mind run and think he’s trying to force a pro style offense to get NFL looks because no way someone can be this ignorant -
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thatdude2 replied to Gerry Hamilton's topic in On Texas Football Forum
“Going off balance”….it’s the same thing I was saying about his body being fundamentally sound and him making a compact throw instead of flailing. Gerry, neither of us are QB gurus or have coached of QBs. I got this from Matt Sims who broke down the good throws by Arch and the 2 interceptions. -
OTF Premium The Case for More 10 Personnel | Sunday 10:35 p.m.
Nikolas24 replied to CJ Vogel's topic in On Texas Football Forum
That was my next thought too. Teams blitzing because we have no hot routes. -
Decrease in Pre Snap Motion/Movement
camridleyfan replied to camridleyfan's topic in On Texas Football Forum
Do you have the data for 21-24? -
OTF Premium The Case for More 10 Personnel | Sunday 10:35 p.m.
CJ Vogel replied to CJ Vogel's topic in On Texas Football Forum
In theory there should be lighter boxes given spacing in the formation. But that requires the OL to win a lot of 1v1 battles. We will see a lot of teams blitz in 10P imo, especially given the somewhat dismissal of hot/check routes when defenses show pressure in pre-snap. -
OTF Premium The Case for More 10 Personnel | Sunday 10:35 p.m.
Alex Butler replied to CJ Vogel's topic in On Texas Football Forum
That pick 6 was doubly frustrating because Coleman was open but Arch sailed the throw 😕 -
OTF Premium The Case for More 10 Personnel | Sunday 10:35 p.m.
Nikolas24 replied to CJ Vogel's topic in On Texas Football Forum
They have to find away to run the ball out of 10 personnel or every defense will know what’s coming. -
Decrease in Pre Snap Motion/Movement
drag worm replied to camridleyfan's topic in On Texas Football Forum
It’s like Sark has turned the entire Quinn pre snap offense into color by numbers for Arch, and he’s still missing open reads and giving the ball away. -
Decrease in Pre Snap Motion/Movement
CJ Vogel replied to camridleyfan's topic in On Texas Football Forum
I don't have the data from the UTSA game yet, but the % of motion at the snap has been relatively the same from the first nine games of the 2025 season. (I don't have the full season charted.) Motion at the snap: 2025 – 58.99% 2026 – 56.50% Yards per play with/without motion: 2025 with motion – 6.04 yards 2025 without motion – 5.34 yards ... 2026 with motion – 4.85 yards 2026 without motion – 5.91 yards Again, it's an imperfect picture, but it's the best data I have on the subject. -
OTF Premium The Case for More 10 Personnel | Sunday 10:35 p.m.
CJ Vogel replied to CJ Vogel's topic in On Texas Football Forum
The key with 10 personnel is protection. Good protection in this unit typically results in a good play. -
OTF Premium The Case for More 10 Personnel | Sunday 10:35 p.m.
CJ Vogel replied to CJ Vogel's topic in On Texas Football Forum
The spacing from 10 personnel here creates an easy walk-in touchdown. -
This might be straight conjecture. But as stated the PPG has decreased every year, and it seems like the pre snap motion has decreased with it. No WR motion like used with Worthy. With the RPOs or the motion reverse motion. Not sure if it correlates with an increase in talent believing sark can just win Mano y Mano. Or him believing it doesn’t work in the SEC anymore (factually wrong). His 2022 tape vs Alabama was a masterclass in pre snap movement and shifting. The reason he got the job at Texas was what he did w Alabama in 2019/20 with Jeudy, Waddle, Devonta Smith etc
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Texas was in 10 personnel for 8 plays that accounted 83 yards on Saturday vs. Oklahoma. Good for 10.38 yards per play. The eight snaps: 10-yard pass to Emmett Mosley V 15-yard pass to Cam Coleman 34-yard touchdown pass to Ryan Wingo -- halftime -- Arch Manning pick-six 9-yard pass to Emmett Mosley V 0-yard run by Hollywood Smothers 15-yard touchdown pass to Jermaine Bishop Jr. pass thrown away The pick-six is the clear blemish. But completions on 6/7 other attempts for 83 yards is a good day given how much the Texas offense struggled throughout the game. *** Texas is averaging 9.93 yards per play in 10 personnel in the two SEC games where 10 personnel has been utilized. *** The personnel grouping is responsible for the following explosives in the two games: 34-yard pass 29-yard pass 18-yard pass 15-yard touchdown pass 15-yard pass 14-yard pass
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HonkEm replied to Gerry Hamilton's topic in On Texas Football Forum
Texas would take him back in about two seconds if he's still the best QB on the roster. The real question isn't whether Texas wants Arch. It's whether Arch plays well enough in 2026 that coming back even makes sense. If he's good, he's probably gone. If he's not good, then we're having a very different conversation about whether he should still be the starter. Honestly, I'd prefer he leaves after 2026. Not because I want him gone, but because that's probably the healthiest outcome for the program. If Arch comes back for 2027, you're asking the next QB in line to wait another year, and in today's portal era that's a real risk. I'd rather have Arch play well enough to be a high draft pick and keep the succession plan moving than lose a talented backup who gets tired of waiting -
Mike Elko vs TexAgs/fan base … is wild
FatherofMinky replied to Gerry Hamilton's topic in On Texas Football Forum
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FatherofMinky replied to Gerry Hamilton's topic in On Texas Football Forum
The real question here is… IF he wants to come back in 2027, does Texas take him back? Does the Manning family want him back at Texas as well? He’s clearly not going in the 1st round of next years draft. -
The Longhorns offense is historically bad. Shocking stats
AusMOJO replied to jcash02's topic in On Texas Football Forum
The problem is, people have been saying this for years. But any time you bring it up people don't want to hear it. Sark has done great things for Texas, no one can dispute that. What he hasn't done is field competent and top Offenses. Hell, he fired a guy who had several top defenses at Texas. Which helped carry them to two semi-final appearances and conference title games. Sark can't figure out that he is the problem. He also thinks he can do both because his mentor did it before or something. He also states that it was the reason he was brought to Texas and my dumbass thought he was brought here to be the HC...silly me. -
Tom Herman burner account? "Winning is hard " lol.
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Reason for Optimism | Sunday 1:55 p.m.
mmdaytontexas replied to CJ Vogel's topic in On Texas Football Forum
Mizzou, LSU, and Aggy...all away games? -
Reason for Optimism | Sunday 1:55 p.m.
AusMOJO replied to CJ Vogel's topic in On Texas Football Forum
This is a good find, CJ. Also shout out to you for having the gall to question Sark in the media. As to your post, I don't know that it really means much. They had a ton of yards against OU but what does any of that matter when 9 of your possessions end in 3 & outs and 2 turnovers? One of which gifted them 7 points and another that helped them seal the game. To me either Sark will figure it out or he won't. I love the discussions around this and it feels like we've been having them for years. That's the reality of it. -
The Longhorns offense is historically bad. Shocking stats
Jordan91 replied to jcash02's topic in On Texas Football Forum
I am certain this will all be fixed with a great week of practice. If it isn’t well it really doesn’t matter because there is nothing really wrong anyway. They hired him because of his offensive capabilities. The ones that Kirby loves to just shut down and dance on the sideline in celebration. -
The Longhorns offense is historically bad. Shocking stats
mmdaytontexas replied to jcash02's topic in On Texas Football Forum
Sark, as a recruiter and PR professional, is top-notch. Sark as an OC and HC leaves a lot to be desired. -
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HonkEm replied to Gerry Hamilton's topic in On Texas Football Forum
I think there's probably some truth to both points, especially the running aspect. The Arch we saw against Michigan looked far more decisive because if his first read wasn't there, he'd tuck it and go. This year he seems determined to stay in the pocket and prove he's a passer, and I do wonder if that's making him play slower. Where I'd push back a little is that plenty of college offenses ask QBs to process complex passing concepts. At some point the quarterback has to be able to see the field and make the right decision. If a fourth-year player is still overwhelmed by the mental side of the position, that's not entirely on the play caller. To me, Sark deserves criticism if he's not tailoring the offense to what Arch does best. But Arch also deserves criticism if he's repeatedly missing defenders, forcing throws, or processing too slowly. The blame doesn't have to be exclusive to one side. The biggest mystery is that the decision-making looks worse, not better. That's the part I still can't reconcile. You can live with an occasional inaccurate throw. What's harder to explain is why a quarterback who protected the football so well a year ago is making so many costly mental mistakes now. That's what worries me the most.