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As we all know, the national media is essentially divided into Arch-hypers and Arch-detractors. I keep hearing many national analysts on the detractor side essentially refer to Arch Manning like he is comparable to a standard first year starter in college football. "Texas has a first year starter at QB, you know how that can go", etc. Before diving into any stats, hearing that just caused some cognitive dissonance for me because right off the bat so many caveats come to mind when thinking of comparing Arch Manning to a first year starter. But I wanted to do an actual comparison with research and statistics, so that's what this post is for. For the sake of this, let's completely ignore that Arch is a Manning. Just an anonymous college QB. What are the objective characteristics of this QB that can be compared to current and former QBs across the country? 1. Former 5* recruit 2. Had to sit behind another former 5* recruit that already had a year of starting experience 3. Doesn't transfer to another program 4. Racks up quality game time experience in 2 years in backup capacity 5. Isn't the week one or season-majority starter until Year 3 or later So, to begin my comparison, I considered criteria #1, #3 and #5 and looked for former 5* recruits that eventually started at the program they signed with out of HS, but not until year 3 or later. I used 247 recruit rankings and went back to the 2010 class (earliest available on 247). Surprisingly, other than Arch, there have only been 3 other former 5* QBs that fit these criteria: Max Browne (USC), Davis Mills (Stanford) and Ty Simpson (Bama). Next, I was curious about how these players compared to Arch for criteria #2 and #4. #2. Who started ahead of Browne, Mills and Simpson? How much experience relative experience did they have? Browne: Cody Kessler, former 4* recruit with zero years of starting experience prior to Browne's first year on campus(2013) Mills: KJ Costello, former 4* recruit with zero years of starting experience prior to Mills' first year on campus (2017) Simpson: Jalen Milroe, former 4* recruit with zero years of starting experience prior to Simpson's first year on campus (2022) #4. How do the stats prior to being the week one or season-majority starter stack up? I'll add up all stats from the other 3. The Field: 0 Starts, 40/71, 56% completion, 524 yds passing, 0 passing TDs, 0 INTs, 148 yds rushing, 3 rushing TDs Arch: 2 Starts, 63/95, 66% completion, 969 yds passing, 9 passing TDs, 2 INTs, 115 yds rushing, 4 rushing TDs Conclusion: Arch Manning is unique to say the least
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Jackson Arnold 🤣
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Joe, I've booked great seats for all their Thailand shows. They can call their SD & Thailand tour "From the Badlands to the Land of Smiles" 🤘🏼
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When a Dan Lanning cannonball becomes a binding contract!
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See you in Dallas again @Bobby Burton Looking forward to it! Thanks for getting this together!
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ijb285 joined the community
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Heber city Utah is ready for the tour , 😎
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No San Antonio...... man we could have sent y'all to the best taco joints in town....
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Because Austin
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The WNBA is super physical!
Philip Barber replied to Califashorn75's topic in On Texas Football Forum
So what? They have and will beat the hell out of her. Of course, she has to defend herself because the league won’t. -
My home town.
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I think I can swing Dallas.
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Happy Texas a&m day to all who celebrate
tsip92 replied to John F.'s topic in On Texas Football Forum
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Eugene is his significant other. So you might be right.
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Por Que no San Antonio Bobby?
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Weird - I don't see Tulsa on the list....you could Vonlane up here.
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On the subject of Dallas, @Bobby Burtonany plans for another Texas OU remote broadcast this year?
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Will there be tour shirts?
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Heck yes!!! This is awesome!!
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Two Longhorns Added to Doak Walker Watch List
CJ Vogel replied to CJ Vogel's topic in On Texas Football Forum
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Two Longhorns Added to Doak Walker Watch List
CJ Vogel replied to CJ Vogel's topic in On Texas Football Forum
Notre Dame with three players announced to the Doak Walker list. -
Texas running backs CJ Baxter and Quintrevion Wisner were named to the preseason watch list for the 2025 Doak Walker Award, given annually to the nation's top college running back. This marks Baxter’s second consecutive year on the list, and the duo becomes the third Texas RB pair in the past four years to earn preseason recognition. Baxter, who missed the 2024 season due to injury, had a standout freshman campaign in 2023 with 659 rushing yards and five touchdowns. Wisner, a third-year player, led the team in rushing in 2024 with 1,064 yards and added 411 receiving yards, making him the only returning 1,000-yard rusher in the SEC.
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Rarely Seen Día Bell Highlights
Jc Dobbs replied to Burnt Orange Horn's topic in On Texas Football Forum
Burnt Orange Horn -- It's easy to forget what a powerhouse FSU was. For a few seasons Bobby Bowden had the Seminoles rollin'! During that period of time Florida State was one of the "It" schools and was really popular with the young people. I was in Tallahassee several times in the early 1980s and I drove by the football stadium. The FSU football facilities weren't particularly impressive back then. For many years my job required lots of domestic travel. I always tried to look around college campuses and football stadiums when I was in prominent college and university towns. College football has grown a lot since about 1980. The advent of ESPN brought CBS and Fox into the business of televising games and that pulled in the big revenue. Hook 'Em! -
No Seattle stop? 😜 Seems cool - two of the best joining forces! 🤘