Cancel Ohio State Immediately

[PrisonMike]

3 hours ago, wosmustangs1979 said:

I know that many will disagree. That’s why this site exists - to dialogue. Texas needs to focus clearly on one thing - The Playoffs. Period. It’s not about being scared. One less loss is all that matters. It’s fun and exciting to open the season with a NAME. We all get that. But, the ROI simply is not there. When our name does not show up in the bracket next Sunday, it will sting bad. This is avoidable with a strategic aim at what is more important. The SEC is a gauntlet enough. 
 

CDC - drop the game. It’s the smarter thing to do. I’ll trade that shiny game for the playoffs. This seems simple. Drop it!

Hook ‘Em 

I agree.  Take their money makers away and they’ll learn their lesson.  

[wosmustangs1979]

Yep - try missing the playoffs over this. 

[hookem1014]

Get rid of the auto G5 bid. This isn’t March Madness. Respect to their seasons but those teams will never go on a Cinderella run in the CFP….

[Class of 04]

3 hours ago, DanielOnorato said:

Not necessarily. I would like them to go back to the BCS formula. 

The BCS formula was explicitly designed to incorporate strength of schedule (SOS) as a key component alongside human polls and a penalty for each loss. 

"Quality Wins" Bonus: Later iterations of the formula added a bonus for beating top-15 teams, further rewarding teams that challenged themselves.

Mitigating Penalties: Playing a hard schedule meant that a loss against a "team of substance" was not punished as severely as a loss to a weak team. 

Strength of Schedule Component: Teams were ranked 1 through 115 (at the time) based on the winning percentages of their opponents and their opponents' opponents. A team's rank in this category contributed to their overall BCS score (lower score was better, like golf).

Key Example: 2007 LSU Tigers

The 2007 college football season is the most famous instance where the traditional emphasis on an unblemished record was overturned by the BCS system's flexibility.

LSU's Record: LSU finished the regular season with two losses.

The Outcome: The Tigers were selected to play for the national championship and ultimately won the BCS National Championship, the first and only two-loss team ever to do so in the BCS era.

Valid point.  https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings

[uthorn1374]

5 hours ago, GoHorns1 said:

That would be weak and timid which isn’t the Texas way.

Well we’re sitting with our pride at home watching Notre dame beat up on cupcakes and in the playoff.  These high level games cause injuries.

[SpaceCityWrangler]

So…. Should Georgia cancel Georgia Tech?  Should South Carolina cancel Clemson?

IF we had a 16 team playoff, we would be in.

Michigan and Ohio State are both coming in the next two years. That’s f’ing awesome.

[burntoc]

24 minutes ago, SpaceCityWrangler said:

So…. Should Georgia cancel Georgia Tech?  Should South Carolina cancel Clemson?

IF we had a 16 team playoff, we would be in.

Michigan and Ohio State are both coming in the next two years. That’s f’ing awesome.

You cannot be so dense as to understand the difference in your examples and OP's. No one is canceling TX-OU or TX-TAMU. Geebus.

[henry bumpus]

Someone said it above:

Beat Ohio State, 10-2, in the playoff. Probably a home game.

Beat (Insert random team), 10-2, in the playoff. Maybe a home game, maybe not.

Lose to Ohio State, 9-3, miss the playoff.

It's that simple. In an ideal world they make adjustments to 14 team with only two byes, or 16 team with four byes. There's no guarantee of that. There's an argument to keep Ohio State and Michigan the next two years because both are our home swings (we've been away at each past two years). Playing Notre Dame 2028-2029 would be moronic.

Look at what is happening to Miami right now. They beat ND, same record, and are getting left out of the playoffs. I don't know why any blue blood program (or even remotely close to blue blood) would schedule ND until they join a conference. They play by their own rules and get the benefit of the doubt year after year. I wouldn't be surprised if they surpass OU and get to play them at home! It's a real detriment to the sport as a whole and I hope Texas doesn't engage with that program until they adhere to the rules every other program does.

I hope things change and Texas can keep challenging themselves out of conference, but if they miss this CFP they should at least use the potential lost money if games were cancelled as future leverage against the way the committee currently operates. 

Hook em, lot to look forward to next year!

[Califashorn75]

There is zero point in scheduling really tough teams during nonconference play. Our SEC schedule is tough enough as it is right now. The goal is to win a Natty. The only way to do that is to get into the playoffs. We shouldn't even play a bowl game. We are Texas! 

[SpaceCityWrangler]

6 hours ago, burntoc said:

You cannot be so dense as to understand the difference in your examples and OP's. No one is canceling TX-OU or TX-TAMU. Geebus.

Good grief… where did I say or even imply that we would cancel OU and/or Aggy?  Those are Conference games.  South Carolina vs. Clemson and Georgia Tech are out of conference games.

IF we had a 16 team playoff, Texas would be in. Thus, it would be stupid to cancel big OOC games.

Edited 2 hours ago by SpaceCityWrangler

[SchoolColors]

1 minute ago, SpaceCityWrangler said:

Good grief… where did I say or

imply that we would cancel OU and/or Aggy?  Those are Conference games.  South Carolina vs. Clemson and Georgia Tech are out of conference games.

IF we had a 16 team playoff, Texas would be in. Thus, it would be stupid to cancel big OOC games.

What’s the point of them though? Even in a 16 team playoff they’re not an advantage and we’d still be better off putting our 2 losses within the conference slate. Why you may ask, well because hosting a home playoff game. I’d rather host than have to travel up north for a playoff game 

[DanielOnorato]

1 minute ago, SchoolColors said:

What’s the point of them though? Even in a 16 team playoff they’re not an advantage and we’d still be better off putting our 2 losses within the conference slate. Why you may ask, well because hosting a home playoff game. I’d rather host than have to travel up north for a playoff game 

Add on top of it that more playoff teams means more games played against playoff competition to reach the championship.

There is absolutely no reason to schedule tough non con games moving forward. It will only hurt your case. 

[SpaceCityWrangler]

Just now, SchoolColors said:

What’s the point of them though? Even in a 16 team playoff they’re not an advantage and we’d still be better off putting our 2 losses within the conference slate. Why you may ask, well because hosting a home playoff game. I’d rather host than have to travel up north for a playoff game 

The only reason we’re still being considered going into this weekend is because we played that game in Columbus.  And, all SEC and Big 10 will be required to play a 10th game against a P4 out of conference team when we move to a 16 team playoff.

Moreover, the out of conference games are great for college football.  Ohio State and Michigan coming in is A LOT better than playing St. Mary’s Church of the Poor in September.

And, had we not got our asses kicked in Athens and Gainesville or had the OT games at Mississippi State or Kentucky, things would be different.  Those were the killers.  We played like absolute crap in all 4 SEC road games.

[Waxahorn]

"The PRIDE AND WINNING TRADITION of The University of Texas will not be entrusted to the weak or the timid!" You believe in this or you don't. To cancel a game ten months out would be weak and timid.

 

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[SchoolColors]

7 minutes ago, Waxahorn said:

"The PRIDE AND WINNING TRADITION of The University of Texas will not be entrusted to the weak or the timid!" You believe in this or you don't. To cancel a game ten months out would be weak and timid.

 

That’s a lovely saying but reality is we’re being stupid by continuing to play them. Is Indiana being penalized for playing a weak schedule? ND? Or even Aggie? We are moving to 9 conference games and our future conference schedules aren’t easier than what we have had this year. You’re leaving no room for error in a 12 game schedule and potentially 4 marquee games come post season. I’d rather play an Ohio state, Michigan, ND, or whomever in a playoff where it matters. Not at the beginning of the season in a glorified exhibition. 

[Sundancekid]

Tough win against non conference Alabama got us in a couple years ago.

[Casey67]

7 hours ago, SpaceCityWrangler said:

So…. Should Georgia cancel Georgia Tech?  Should South Carolina cancel Clemson?

IF we had a 16 team playoff, we would be in.

Michigan and Ohio State are both coming in the next two years. That’s f’ing awesome.

Good point.  Especially South Carolina vs. Clemson.  I lived in SC and that is a huge rivalry.

I think putting the top 12 teams (with no automatic qualifiers period) cures everything.  But I would still avoid scheduling Blue Blood OOC games even if we went to that format. 

I'd rather see Texas and Texas A&M schedule in state only OOC games.  One Big 12 (Tech, Baylor, TCU, Houston or SMU) in state opponent and 2 in state cupcakes.  Oklahoma could play Oklahoma state and two cupcakes.  That would be a way to enforce conference superiority perceptions for the ranking committees.

And for God's sake, schedule some of those OOC toward the end of the season.

Edited 1 hour ago by Casey67

[Paul L]

13 hours ago, wosmustangs1979 said:

I know that many will disagree. That’s why this site exists - to dialogue. Texas needs to focus clearly on one thing - The Playoffs. Period. It’s not about being scared. One less loss is all that matters. It’s fun and exciting to open the season with a NAME. We all get that. But, the ROI simply is not there. When our name does not show up in the bracket next Sunday, it will sting bad. This is avoidable with a strategic aim at what is more important. The SEC is a gauntlet enough. 
 

CDC - drop the game. It’s the smarter thing to do. I’ll trade that shiny game for the playoffs. This seems simple. Drop it!

Hook ‘Em 

Or we could just win the games we are supposed to win such as Florida.  

[SchoolColors]

1 hour ago, Sundancekid said:

Tough win against non conference Alabama got us in a couple years ago.

Yeah it was definitely that and not a Heisman candidate getting hurt on an undefeated team

[utx2]

I have no clue on the amount of money an early match up makes versus one playoff game.   Now add two playoff games versus one opening season game.    
 

The bean counters will count and that will be the decision.   Money /tv revenue trumps all 

Edited 31 minutes ago by utx2