Penn St dumpster fire

[Flynn]

I’m not very plugged in with other programs or news. I have grown up with Penn St being a high end football program. All I’m seeing is Penn St is responsible for more extensions of other programs coaches after letting go of their coach. How did Penn St become such a dumpster fire?

[CHorn427]

19 minutes ago, Flynn said:

I’m not very plugged in with other programs or news. I have grown up with Penn St being a high end football program. All I’m seeing is Penn St is responsible for more extensions of other programs coaches after letting go of their coach. How did Penn St become such a dumpster fire?

Tbh: by thinking they are or should be Ohio State’s equal when they aren’t and never have been.

They’ve had two HCs ALL TIME that have had 10+ win seasons in program history. They just fired the 2nd guy (that did it repeatedly in a more competitive era) before the midway point of the season. 
 

Texas has had 9 HCs get 10+ wins by comparison. 

Edited 1 hour ago by CHorn427

[Flynn]

3 minutes ago, CHorn427 said:

Tbh: by thinking they are or should be Ohio State’s equal when they aren’t and never have been.

They’ve had two HCs ALL TIME that have had 10+ win seasons in program history. They just fired the 2nd guy (that did it repeatedly in a more competitive era) before the midway point of the season. 

By no means Ohio st level, but not a poverty school in any way. What is making coaches avoid the school like the plague. 

[syracusehorn]

Well they had one coach for like 46 years, so that's not really a great argument.

[CHorn427]

3 minutes ago, syracusehorn said:

Well they had one coach for like 46 years, so that's not really a great argument.

The PSU football program existed for 84 years before JoePa and won 3 total bowl games.

I think it is a stellar argument. Why should a program be guaranteed success because there was one successful coach before you? 
 

What is Penn State’s recruiting base? Not great.

 

[CHorn427]

1 hour ago, Flynn said:

By no means Ohio st level, but not a poverty school in any way. What is making coaches avoid the school like the plague. 

The intense pressure of needing to come in and beat top 10 teams and resurrect a program with unrealistic expectations from complete collapse, at this point. 
 

Why would a promising G5 coach or 2nd tier P4 coach leave their programs where they have decent odds of making the CFP, to go to a program where it will be way more difficult? 
 

Those types of coaches are better off staying where they are with continued success in the “juniors” until a more favorable high profile job opens up. At worst they can just wait to be the “next guy” at PSU after the immediate next guy after Franklin has to deal with the fallout.