Time for 24 teams coaches have spoken

[Joe Zura]

 

[Joe Zura]

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

The SEC screwed up by standing in cement when everyone else was looking for change. B1G took the initiative and have been building momentum. Looks like it’s now either status quo or 24 teams and no conference championships. 

[Alex Butler]

Let’s do this!!!

[MBHORNSFAN]

16 has always been my favorite number. Lets see how it shakes out. 

[Kevin C]

I was posting support for this model a year ago on OTF and everyone sprayed bullets at me.  lol.  🤪 I absolutely love the 24 team model.  Love that every team in the Top 16 gets to host a home game in the playoffs.  Love that the Top 8 teams get a bye.  Love that they want to finish the season before NFL playoffs are too far underway.  I also think this model incentivizes the tough OhioState -v- Texas type games because you aren't as worried about making the cut with 3 losses.  After first week of play-in games, you're already down to the Top 16 teams and by New Years Day, you're down to the Top 8 Teams in the big 4 bowls.  I hope this gets formally approved and put into motion asap!!!

Hook em!!🧡🐂🤘🏽

 

[hookem1014]

Conference championships have lost a bit of importance since the expansion anyways. That first round bye hasn’t seem to do many favors lately either. 

[LTWOTIMES]

this is trash, continuing to move away from what CFB really is

[Kevin C]

12 minutes ago, LTWOTIMES said:

this is trash, continuing to move away from what CFB really is

Disagree.  Making College Football even better.  30 years ago, we didn't even get to have Top 2 teams play for national championship.  Enough with the 'Old College Football Format was better' BS.  JMHO.  

[Hank South]

I like the season ending earlier. Too big of a gap between end of the regular season and the playoff, especially for teams with a bye, it's almost a disadvantage to not play. 

[LonghornFan4Ever]

[GetHooked]

46 minutes ago, Tuco Ramirez said:

The SEC screwed up by standing in cement when everyone else was looking for change. B1G took the initiative and have been building momentum. Looks like it’s now either status quo or 24 teams and no conference championships. 

I'm in favor.  Irrelevant bowl games need to go.  Players opting out of irrelevant bowl games is a drag.

[Here for the Wins]

24 minutes ago, Kevin C said:

I was posting support for this model a year ago on OTF and everyone sprayed bullets at me.  lol.  🤪 I absolutely love the 24 team model.  Love that every team in the Top 16 gets to host a home game in the playoffs.  Love that the Top 8 teams get a bye.  Love that they want to finish the season before NFL playoffs are too far underway.  I also think this model incentivizes the tough OhioState -v- Texas type games because you aren't as worried about making the cut with 3 losses.  After first week of play-in games, you're already down to the Top 16 teams and by New Years Day, you're down to the Top 8 Teams in the big 4 bowls.  I hope this gets formally approved and put into motion asap!!!

Hook em!!🧡🐂🤘🏽

 

Pretty sure the Ohio State-Texas matchups do not encourage this.  A loss adds an extra game to the schedule, which would be counter to the ultimate goal.  A win gets you little except one more high level game to get beat up or emotionally result in a letdown.

[Here for the Wins]

8 minutes ago, Hank South said:

I like the season ending earlier. Too big of a gap between end of the regular season and the playoff, especially for teams with a bye, it's almost a disadvantage to not play. 

Sure.  But a Labor Day weekend start is ideal.

 

[Tres Comas]

You can keep on expanding but there's still a fundamental flaw in scheduling durinh the regular season

[Alex Butler]

56 minutes ago, LTWOTIMES said:

this is trash, continuing to move away from what CFB really is

What?!?! Doesn’t every other level of football besides division 1A have a playoff between 16-24 teams? Are you suggesting we go back to the BCS or before when the AP chose the national champion? What in your opinion is CFB really? 

[Here for the Wins]

10 minutes ago, Alex Butler said:

What?!?! Doesn’t every other level of football besides division 1A have a playoff between 16-24 teams? Are you suggesting we go back to the BCS or before when the AP chose the national champion? What in your opinion is CFB really? 

 

Do you watch much football at any other level of college?  None of them are really comparable so why compare?

A big fan of Texas high school football with 2-8 teams making the playoff?  Pretty cool when you have two winners from same division.  A .500 team making the NFL playoffs?  That same team getting a home game over one with a better record.

There isn’t a need to expand further when they can’t get it right currently.  It’s not just about the teams being selected, but the seedings are massively important too.

College is not the NFL, but if you want an equitable system, you need to head more towards that.  Limit the teams.  No discretion in scheduling unless playoff participants are limited based on conference/divisional games.

[Burnt Orange Horn]

Never any byes in the playoffs!

[FforFake]

Why stop here? Let's just have 68 teams like March Madness.

[Alex Butler]

30 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

 

Do you watch much football at any other level of college?  None of them are really comparable so why compare?

A big fan of Texas high school football with 2-8 teams making the playoff?  Pretty cool when you have two winners from same division.  A .500 team making the NFL playoffs?  That same team getting a home game over one with a better record.

There isn’t a need to expand further when they can’t get it right currently.  It’s not just about the teams being selected, but the seedings are massively important too.

College is not the NFL, but if you want an equitable system, you need to head more towards that.  Limit the teams.  No discretion in scheduling unless playoff participants are limited based on conference/divisional games.

I do watch football at all levels and high school has 3 teams getting into the playoffs in each district now. I do like the fact that these teams get a chance to get in and at least compete. With your logic the NFL playoffs would’ve been just fine with 4 teams total and no wild card, and the BCS got it right. The other levels aren’t comparable, to your point, BECAUSE there are such limited spots for so many teams. If you expand the playoffs parity expands with it. The cream rises to the top, but only if it’s not dumped before getting into the milk jug. They can’t get it right because they’re trying to limit too much. Expansion solves that. I’m going to go ahead and trust the coaches and say we need to expand the playoffs. If Texas or ND is in last year who knows how things shake out. If we had the 4 teams total playoff in 2024 OSU wouldn’t have even made it in. 

[Here for the Wins]

1 minute ago, Alex Butler said:

I do watch football at all levels and high school has 3 teams getting into the playoffs in each district now. I do like the fact that these teams get a chance to get in and at least compete. With your logic the NFL playoffs would’ve been just fine with 4 teams total and no wild card, and the BCS got it right. The other levels aren’t comparable, to your point, BECAUSE there are such limited spots for so many teams. If you expand the playoffs parity expands with it. The cream rises to the top, but only if it’s not dumped before getting into the milk jug. They can’t get it right because they’re trying to limit too much. Expansion solves that. I’m going to go ahead and trust the coaches and say we need to expand the playoffs. If Texas or ND is in last year who knows how things shake out. If we had the 4 teams total playoff in 2024 OSU wouldn’t have even made it in. 

Give me the name of all college football champs last year.

[Alex Butler]

5 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

Give me the name of all college football champs last year.

Montana St, Ferris St, and Wisconsin-River-Falls. Just because I like watching college football doesn’t mean that naming champions is the same as enjoying watching meaningful games late in the season. THAT is the real reason for expansion, we want to watch real games with actual starters not these pointless bowl games. 

Edited Wednesday at 12:14 AM by Alex Butler

[Alex Butler]

17 minutes ago, Alex Butler said:

Montana St, Ferris St, and Wisconsin-River-Falls. Just because I like watching college football doesn’t mean that naming champions is the same as enjoying watching meaningful games late in the season. THAT is the real reason for expansion, we want to watch real games with actual starters not these pointless bowl games. 

@Here for the Wins you still haven’t described your version of what CFB “really is” and how you’d like to see things set up. Perhaps you can share so we can agree/disagree on common ground? Right now I’m defending my position and honestly done know what you’re actually is other than “moving toward an equitable system”, no discretion in scheduling (I’m assuming aimed at ND which I absolutely agree with), and “limiting teams-still the case even if expanded. You’re not letting everyone in. We may actually be closer together agreeing than it seems. I like having the same teams from districts and divisions in the playoffs. Think about the “district of doom” in Dallas if only one team got out of there hiw many kids wouldn’t have the chance to prove themselves in the playoffs and win a state championship?! This if Desoto and Duncanville all these years battling it out in district but not able to play and redeem a loss?! Think of all the talent we wouldn’t be able to see if the TXHS playoffs hadn’t expanded. Same with college football.

Edited Wednesday at 12:30 AM by Alex Butler

[Here for the Wins]

But to the rest of your post, four teams per district make the playoffs in Texas high schools.

Texas and Notre Dame weren’t in the playoffs because of some dumb rule that required a G5 and a mandatory 4th conference champ.

Oregon, Ole Miss got favorable seeding that gifted them a win and provided them an advantage the following week.

There has been ample bitching about Notre Dame’s schedule.  Ole Miss played 4 games away from home.  I don’t remember exactly but think they tied for the fewest games against the above .500 SEC teams.  Their strength of schedule was similar to NDs.  A&Ms strength of schedule was far better, which earned them a far more difficult opening game.

I would not have felt sorry had OSU not won it in 2024.  There is something faulty about not winning your conference but winning a national championship.  If you think the time off after losing to Michigan versus us playing Georgia after A&M did not have an impact, you could be right.  I’m confident in saying that time was incredibly beneficial to OSU.

There are too many teams, too few games and unbalanced schedules to get it right.  Then throw in some unearned qualifiers.

[Alex Butler]

4 minutes ago, Here for the Wins said:

But to the rest of your post, four teams per district make the playoffs in Texas high schools.

Texas and Notre Dame weren’t in the playoffs because of some dumb rule that required a G5 and a mandatory 4th conference champ.

Oregon, Ole Miss got favorable seeding that gifted them a win and provided them an advantage the following week.

There has been ample bitching about Notre Dame’s schedule.  Ole Miss played 4 games away from home.  I don’t remember exactly but think they tied for the fewest games against the above .500 SEC teams.  Their strength of schedule was similar to NDs.  A&Ms strength of schedule was far better, which earned them a far more difficult opening game.

I would not have felt sorry had OSU not won it in 2024.  There is something faulty about not winning your conference but winning a national championship.  If you think the time off after losing to Michigan versus us playing Georgia after A&M did not have an impact, you could be right.  I’m confident in saying that time was incredibly beneficial to OSU.

There are too many teams, too few games and unbalanced schedules to get it right.  Then throw in some unearned qualifiers.

I stand corrected the TXHS playoffs have expanded since I was in school and still we have great games and kids having the chance to continue playing meaningful games. I think what we can agree on is that there needs to be a new system that has the top tier teams in one division of about 32 some odd teams that can only compete for the national champions and of those 12 get in much like NFL. That seems reasonable to me as long as there are salary caps in place. I’d even do something like the European soccer leagues do that allow movement between the levels based on year over year performance (relegation versus promotion).