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New Documentary following Vince Young’s rise and fall. Definitely gives some interesting perspective.

 

If I ever see Jeff Fisher in person, it is on sight. **** that guy. 

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Yeah Vince made mistakes. But Fisher really comes off bad here. And still petty to not answer the letter Vince sent. Overall a pretty good and fair piece. Enjoyed Bo and Lendale as well . 

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Enjoyed the program... Fishers a bitter man but Vince also made his mistakes. So much in life for athletes is circumstances and opportunity.

I did not know he grew up wanting to go to FSU. Very happy Bobby Bowden recruited VY as a WR. 

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My perspective is Vince Young was a once in a lifetime athlete with flaws that needed special treatment to reach his potential, thankfully Mack recognized this and changed the way he normally handled players which allowed Vince to become the superstar “VY” in college.   If Jeff Fisher had been as wise as Mack instead of being stubborn and set in his ways there is no telling how good Vince could have been in the NFL.   

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13 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

I thought it was pretty fair. Definitely confirmed Fisher as an a-hole. But also made it clear VY didn’t put in the work to be a franchise QB. 

Fisher definitely a class A a$$hole. I think VY would’ve flourished under a different head coach in the NFL. I did and still do firmly believe that if you give him some time and consideration he would’ve grown into that role. It’s not one most young QBs just step into naturally. When the head coach is putting you on blast and private stuff out in the media it’s hard to want to really go all in on that one. I loved the Scaife and White interviews! 

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45 minutes ago, Alex Butler said:

Fisher definitely a class A a$$hole. I think VY would’ve flourished under a different head coach in the NFL. I did and still do firmly believe that if you give him some time and consideration he would’ve grown into that role. It’s not one most young QBs just step into naturally. When the head coach is putting you on blast and private stuff out in the media it’s hard to want to really go all in on that one. I loved the Scaife and White interviews! 

Lots of QBs have flourished on their 2nd or even 3rd or 4th stop. Vince battled maturity issues even at Texas, and was never an elite passer. He had a clean start at Philly under one of the greatest QB whisperers and even that didn’t work out. 
 

Interestingly there was an A Football Life which featured both Vince and Matt Leinart. They both admitted they didn’t work hard enough to achieve the success they had in college in the NFL. 
 

I love Vince, and he took Texas to levels we hadn’t seen in decades. That doesn’t mean you’re guaranteed a successful run in the NFL. 

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VY was 22, at a time, when the NFL was transitioning from old school coaches to new ones like Andy Reid. Fisher was straddling both fences, however, he didn't have the stripes to feel comfy in his job. He hadn't won anything. Therefore, he assumed the position of a Warlord. Do as I say or else. 

Bud Adams certainly didn't help. VY just needed someone who had his back. When McNair was murdered, he fell into a depression. Again, no help. 

Nowadays, athletes are less vulnerable.  Coaches are much more sensitive. Jared Elliott is a great example of this new type of coach. 

Because Sark has been given a second chance, he is much more cognizant of being there for his players too. 

Fisher, not responding to VY's letter, is all you need to know what a bitter human being he has remained. He takes no accountability.  

The part I loved was the reverence Scaife and White had for VY. They understood the pressure he was under. Being a quarterback in the League has to be among the most difficult jobs to have period. Look how many have tried and failed. 

VY is a hero to many of us. He will remain so. His legacy will be remembered for bringing a joy to us seconded only by the birth of our children. VY is loved by us and will always be so. 

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