CJ Carr 7-1

Arch Manning 15-2 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/49804905/cj-carr-arch-manning-lead-congested-heisman-oddsboards

Only the playoffs really matter.  Ask Vince!!

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Spot the ball!

8 minutes ago, BurntOrangeHorn said:

Only the playoffs really matter.  Ask Vince!!

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Only goal is CFP ... absolutely

I personally have Darian Mensah as the favorite going into the season

1 minute ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

I personally have Darian Mensah as the favorite going into the season

I’m telling you and have been that Cal QB watch for him unless he has a sophomore slump 

19 minutes ago, Joe Z said:

I’m telling you and have been that Cal QB watch for him unless he has a sophomore slump 

I'm a big fan of J-K S, but Cal won't have the team to get him there IMO 

Just now, Gerry Hamilton said:

I'm a big fan of J-K S, but Cal won't have the team to get him there IMO 

Oh I agree 💯 maybe I’m crushing on him to much the way you crush on Carr and CJ crushes on his inflatable blow up doll in Midteer 

39 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

I personally have Darian Mensah as the favorite going into the season

I like the Mensah pick. Miami will be very good and upgraded at QB. I personally have Dante Moore. Put up big numbers last year, which I think he will build on. They don’t have a very difficult schedule, but there’s enough games in there for him to have Heisman moments. Ohio State game will be huge. 

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52 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

CJ Carr 7-1

Arch Manning 15-2 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/49804905/cj-carr-arch-manning-lead-congested-heisman-oddsboards

@Gerry Hamiltonit feels like Carr has the easier path to Heisman worthy stats. He faces Miami and 2 mid tier/ranked schools. I'd love to see him play an SEC schedule and get the same results

45 minutes ago, nicray0920 said:

@Gerry Hamiltonit feels like Carr has the easier path to Heisman worthy stats. He faces Miami and 2 mid tier/ranked schools. I'd love to see him play an SEC schedule and get the same results

Just me, but I think the schedule stuff is overrated when talking Heisman Trophy ... your performance and earning the award gets it done. 

That's like saying Mendoza wasn't Heisman worthy last year because he played IU's regular season schedule (3 total cupcakes and no Ohio State until Big 10 title game) vs. some others in contention, but he clearly was. 

If a player goes and tears it up against a brutal schedule, they would absolutely deserve it, but it doesn't mean a tremendous player playing a lesser P4 schedule doesn't because the only thing they can control is their performance. 

 

17 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Just me, but I think the schedule stuff is overrated when talking Heisman Trophy ... your performance and earning the award gets it done. 

That's like saying Mendoza wasn't Heisman worthy last year because he played IU's regular season schedule (3 total cupcakes and no Ohio State until Big 10 title game) vs. some others in contention, but he clearly was. 

If a player goes and tears it up against a brutal schedule, they would absolutely deserve it, but it doesn't mean a tremendous player playing a lesser P4 schedule doesn't because the only thing they can control is their performance. 

 

Within some band of schedule strength, i agree, but that's a slippery slope.  If Arch's of Sayin's stats are 80% of CJ Carr's this year, they absolutely deserves it over CJ IMO given the huge difference in schedule difficulty.

2 hours ago, Hornio said:

Within some band of schedule strength, i agree, but that's a slippery slope.  If Arch's of Sayin's stats are 80% of CJ Carr's this year, they absolutely deserves it over CJ IMO given the huge difference in schedule difficulty.

Depends.  If Carr is 12-0 and Arch 9-3, I’m not sure the stats will matter assuming they’re in a similar realm.

Context should matter.  It didn’t when Bama RB won it over Colt.