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If we come to a 3 way tie between 11-1 UGA, 11-1 Texas and 10-2 TAMU, the dumb SEC three way tiebreaker rules will boil down to cumulative conference win percentage of the tied teams’ conference opponents. Even if we have the head to head over TAMU. 

Our conference opponents are significantly weaker in wins than UGA and TAMU, so I highly doubt we stand a chance if it comes to this tiebreaker.

Between UGA and TAMU, it will essentially come down to unique opponents between the two: Tennessee+Bama+Ole Miss+Kentucky for UGA vs LSU+Mizzou+Arkansas+SC for TAMU.

Likely 18 wins for UGA’s slate:

6-2 Tennessee, 6-2 Bama, 5-3 Ole Miss, 1-7 Kentucky

Likely 18 wins for TAMU’s slate:

6-2 LSU, 6-2 Mizzou, 3-5 Arkansas, 3-5 SC

UGA and TAMU will tie for first place and beat out Texas at this stage and UGA and TAMU will advance to the SEC championship game. 
 

We need UGA to win this tiebreaker outright if it comes to this situation. 

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9 minutes ago, Quinncent McManning, Jr. said:

Even if this happens we would be the number 5 seed most likely and in a great position in the playoffs. The sec championship is great and all but the grand prize is greater. 

I’m with you! I’d almost rather have a “bye” during conference championship week and have to play a first round game at home. If it comes to that. All we can do is win out and let the chips fall where they may. 

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Truthfully idc about the SEC Championship, the natty is the greater play. The bye week is the only thing that really matters. Guess what? Win out and if we don’t make the SEC championship then we still get a bye because we aren't playing in CCG game and a 5 seed. We go to the SEC championship game and win then we get a bye, lose and we don’t. The only way the SEC Championship game matters is if you win, loser gets screwed in the cfp and could easily play a team coming off a week rest. 

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7 hours ago, Alex Butler said:

I’m with you! I’d almost rather have a “bye” during conference championship week and have to play a first round game at home. If it comes to that. All we can do is win out and let the chips fall where they may. 

Assuming we took care of business at home, we also would play the B12 champ, to get into semifinal. I think that is almost worth it. 

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10 hours ago, CHorn427 said:

If we come to a 3 way tie between 11-1 UGA, 11-1 Texas and 10-2 TAMU, the dumb SEC three way tiebreaker rules will boil down to cumulative conference win percentage of the tied teams’ conference opponents. Even if we have the head to head over TAMU. 

Our conference opponents are significantly weaker in wins than UGA and TAMU, so I highly doubt we stand a chance if it comes to this tiebreaker.

Between UGA and TAMU, it will essentially come down to unique opponents between the two: Tennessee+Bama+Ole Miss+Kentucky for UGA vs LSU+Mizzou+Arkansas+SC for TAMU.

Likely 18 wins for UGA’s slate:

6-2 Tennessee, 6-2 Bama, 5-3 Ole Miss, 1-7 Kentucky

Likely 18 wins for TAMU’s slate:

6-2 LSU, 6-2 Mizzou, 3-5 Arkansas, 3-5 SC

UGA and TAMU will tie for first place and beat out Texas at this stage and UGA and TAMU will advance to the SEC championship game. 
 

We need UGA to win this tiebreaker outright if it comes to this situation. 

So what you're saying is we beat aggie, they still go to the SEC championship where they get absolutely murdered by Georgia, we get time to heal, aggie gets knocked out of the playoffs with 3 losses, and we slip in somewhat healthy with one loss at 5-7 seed?

That doesn't sound so bad...

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1 hour ago, chennups said:

Wouldn’t we have head to head vs aggy?

Sure, but the criteria for a three way tie head-to-head is that all three teams played each other, so it won't count.

But it WOULD matter if A&M loses the SEC championship game to Georgia, leaving them with 3 losses, including one to us.  Then we'd no doubt be ranked above them for seeding (they might not even make the 11 + 1 cutoff with 3 losses). Hopefully at # 5 or 6 so we'd get one of the weakest teams in the first round, then likely the Big 12 or ACC champ in the 2nd round.

(Too much speculation on my part - Florida, Florida, Florida - that's the one we need next 🙂 )

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13 hours ago, CHorn427 said:

If we come to a 3 way tie between 11-1 UGA, 11-1 Texas and 10-2 TAMU, the dumb SEC three way tiebreaker rules will boil down to cumulative conference win percentage of the tied teams’ conference opponents. Even if we have the head to head over TAMU. 

Our conference opponents are significantly weaker in wins than UGA and TAMU, so I highly doubt we stand a chance if it comes to this tiebreaker.

Between UGA and TAMU, it will essentially come down to unique opponents between the two: Tennessee+Bama+Ole Miss+Kentucky for UGA vs LSU+Mizzou+Arkansas+SC for TAMU.

Likely 18 wins for UGA’s slate:

6-2 Tennessee, 6-2 Bama, 5-3 Ole Miss, 1-7 Kentucky

Likely 18 wins for TAMU’s slate:

6-2 LSU, 6-2 Mizzou, 3-5 Arkansas, 3-5 SC

UGA and TAMU will tie for first place and beat out Texas at this stage and UGA and TAMU will advance to the SEC championship game. 
 

We need UGA to win this tiebreaker outright if it comes to this situation. 

Just get in the playoffs, playing in the SEC championship game is secondary.

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If the scenario occurred where:

Texas wins out but ATM plays Georgia in the sec champ game and loses.  Texas gets the 5 seed since they beat atm would didn’t win the conference.  Texas goes on to get a bye and win the championship.

ATM would beat their chests about being in the sec champ game but would they have heartache in playing a part in giving Texas the recovery and seeding that helped to win the overall championship?

That would be hilarious.  They’d still put it in their wall as runner up sec.  That’s fine lol

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On 11/1/2024 at 12:03 PM, ArizonaLonghorn said:

Sure, but the criteria for a three way tie head-to-head is that all three teams played each other, so it won't count.

But it WOULD matter if A&M loses the SEC championship game to Georgia, leaving them with 3 losses, including one to us.  Then we'd no doubt be ranked above them for seeding (they might not even make the 11 + 1 cutoff with 3 losses). Hopefully at # 5 or 6 so we'd get one of the weakest teams in the first round, then likely the Big 12 or ACC champ in the 2nd round.

(Too much speculation on my part - Florida, Florida, Florida - that's the one we need next 🙂 )

There is some misinformation out there on the 3 way tie. I think the way it actually works is Georgia goes 1st based on conference opponent % but then the criteria resets and Texas goes head to head. 

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SMU is currently nuking Pitt, so while Pitt is likely to drop from the conference unbeatens, SMU is likely to stay there with Miami and Clemson.  Those three teams won't play each other this year.  Just for s***s and giggles, imagine they all finish the ACC regular season undefeated, and one of them misses the championship game. 

Bloated conferences are dumb. 

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1 hour ago, bierce said:

SMU is currently nuking Pitt, so while Pitt is likely to drop from the conference unbeatens, SMU is likely to stay there with Miami and Clemson.  Those three teams won't play each other this year.  Just for s***s and giggles, imagine they all finish the ACC regular season undefeated, and one of them misses the championship game. 

Bloated conferences are dumb. 

Lack of divisions is the problem.

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