Hoops: Texas at South Carolina Game Thread

[Assistant Regional Manager]

This thread can and probably should be locked as it is past the point of productive conversations. 

[harveycmd]

1 minute ago, Oldest Horn said:

As many times as you provide a “brilliant” response, ace. 
 

And look who’s now asking to prove a negative. Oh, the irony!
 

I don’t think it’s political as I’ve seen similar things happen in the private sector. A guy in our community shoved his wife and she hit her head. She called the cops and charged him. He got fired by his hedge fund when it showed up in the local police blotter - even when she chose not to follow through with charges. Turns out she got a really favorable divorce settlement. Coincidence?

Point  is, there a lot of similarities here, regardless of politics. 
 

And you don’t “know” if there were politics at work any more than you don’t “know” what the university’s investigation unconverted. 

Do you know that Beard shoved or hit a woman? You don't know what the university uncovered anymore than I do. If they had clear evidence, the DA would have had the same clear evidence. Stop trying to play god and admit you don't know.

Texas fired Beard. It's too late to do anything about it now. Again, they can fire whomever they want. But when we're talking about wins and losses because of it I can opine as much as anybody. I hope someone takes CDC to the woodshed over it in the their silly meeting this week. 

[Oldest Horn]

1 minute ago, harveycmd said:

Do you know that Beard shoved or hit a woman? You don't know what the university uncovered anymore than I do. If they had clear evidence, the DA would have had the same clear evidence. Stop trying to play god and admit you don't know.

Texas fired Beard. It's too late to do anything about it now. Again, they can fire whomever they want. But when we're talking about wins and losses because of it I can opine as much as anybody. I hope someone takes CDC to the woodshed over it in the their silly meeting this week. 

I don’t “know” but the evidence published suggests he did. I probably would have fired him even though I liked him as a coach. I guess I’m “political” in your echo chamber. 
 

But the university did far more work and I trust their judgment on the matter. 
 

I get it, you don’t trust them, you choose to believe Beard. But if he was truly innocent I can’t imagine why there’s not an active wrongful termination suit going. Seems like slam dunk since the girlfriend recanted and all. (That was sarcasm, ace.)

[harveycmd]

Just now, Oldest Horn said:

I don’t “know” but the evidence published suggests he did. I probably would have fired him even though I liked him as a coach. I guess I’m “political” in your echo chamber. 
 

But the university did far more work and I trust their judgment on the matter. 
 

I get it, you don’t trust them, you choose to believe Beard. But if he was truly innocent I can’t imagine why there’s not an active wrongful termination suit going. Seems like slam dunk since the girlfriend recanted and all. (That was sarcasm, ace.)

Why can't you understand that trust has nothing to do with this? Only idiots trust anyone. In the absence of positive proof, there's nothing to "believe." 

[Oldest Horn]

1 minute ago, harveycmd said:

Why can't you understand that trust has nothing to do with this? Only idiots trust anyone. In the absence of positive proof, there's nothing to "believe." 

Why shouldn’t I trust CDC to do the right thing? Do you follow and diligence every criminal and civil case before making a call on who to believe? Did you you a thorough investigation in this caseP Please share your findings. 

[harveycmd]

This is what I learned at the University of Texas while studying science, literature, history and mathematics.

[harveycmd]

Just now, Oldest Horn said:

Why shouldn’t I trust CDC to do the right thing? Do you follow and diligence every criminal and civil case before making a call on who to believe? Did you you a thorough investigation in this caseP Please share your findings. 

You can't trust anyone absent proof. That's the reality.

[Oldest Horn]

Just now, harveycmd said:

You can't trust anyone absent proof. That's the reality.

Yes I can. I trust lots of peoples’ word on many matters without “proof”. In my business it would be impossible to transact if one had to re-diligence every element of a transaction.

What do you do for a living? You might consider finding new co-workers. 

[harveycmd]

1 minute ago, Oldest Horn said:

Yes I can. I trust lots of peoples’ word on many matters without “proof”. In my business it would be impossible to transact if one had to re-diligence every element of a transaction.

What do you do for a living? You might consider finding new co-workers. 

I trade stocks for a living. Market up or down doesn't matter to me. I make money either way. I "trust" the technical movements of the market. I don't know what Beard did or didn't do.

[Oldest Horn]

Just now, harveycmd said:

I trade stocks for a living. Market up or down doesn't matter to me. I make money either way. I "trust" the technical movements of the market. I don't know what Beard did or didn't do.

So you trade your own account and don’t manage others’ money. 

[harveycmd]

Just now, Oldest Horn said:

So you trade your own account and don’t manage others’ money. 

Yes. I don't work with anyone's money but my own. I consider it unethical to play with other people's money,

[Oldest Horn]

13 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

Yes. I don't work with anyone's money but my own. I consider it unethical to play with other people's money,

Funny, I work for a firm which manages billions on behalf of public and private pensions, endowments and family offices. Often in collaboration with other asset managers. Neither I, my colleagues or clients find anything unethical about it. It also requires a lot of mutual trust and respect. 
 

But you do you. 

[harveycmd]

1 minute ago, Oldest Horn said:

Funny, I work for a firm which manages billions on behalf of public and private pensions, endowments and family offices. Often in collaboration with other asset managers. Neither I, my colleagues or clients find anything unethical about it. It also requires a lot of mutual trust and respect. 
 

But you do you. 

You might be better than me at it. I make a comfortable living, but I'm not willing to risk others' money. Plus I don't want to get a broker's license. 

[Oldest Horn]

2 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

You might be better than me at it. I make a comfortable living, but I'm not willing to risk others' money. Plus I don't want to get a broker's license. 

Sounds more like motivation than ethics. 

[harveycmd]

2 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

Sounds more like motivation than ethics. 

Motivation isn't a consideration in my view. I trade what I want. 

[Oldest Horn]

1 minute ago, harveycmd said:

Motivation isn't a consideration in my view. I trade what I want. 

Nor should ethics, sport. 

[harveycmd]

1 minute ago, Oldest Horn said:

Nor should ethics, sport. 

The ethics is I can't guarantee profit. I remember a financial advisor telling me I couldn't expect more than five percent a year. I told him the market advances more than that per year. He told me to open a Fidelity account and trade on my own then. That's what I did. 

[Oldest Horn]

Just now, harveycmd said:

The ethics is I can't guarantee profit. I remember a financial advisor telling me I couldn't expect more than five percent a year. I told him the market advances more than that per year. He told me to open a Fidelity account and trade on my own then. That's what I did. 

Neither can Warren Buffett. 
 

Perhaps it would be unethical for you to manage money. Doesn’t mean that tag should apply to others. 

[harveycmd]

3 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

Neither can Warren Buffett. 
 

Perhaps it would be unethical for you to manage money. Doesn’t mean that tag should apply to others. 

I'm not talking about others. 

[Oldest Horn]

Just now, harveycmd said:

I'm not talking about others. 

Good. 

[harveycmd]

1 minute ago, Oldest Horn said:

Good. 

I was taught to not worry about others. I don't care about Warren Buffett. I care about what I know.

[Oldest Horn]

1 minute ago, harveycmd said:

I was taught to not worry about others. I don't care about Warren Buffett. I care about what I know.

Good. 
 

[harveycmd]

4 minutes ago, Oldest Horn said:

Good. 
 

Good means nothing to me. You can say whatever. I know nothing about Beard. You don't either.

[Oldest Horn]

14 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

Good means nothing to me. You can say whatever. I know nothing about Beard. You don't either.

Good 

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