Lam Dinh Posted Monday at 07:05 PM Posted Monday at 07:05 PM (edited) Per Bobby's comments on Coffee and Football today, I also believe Texas is under-ranked in transfer portal rankings but I believe it is due to 3 factors: 1) Transfer Portal class sizes vary tremendously. Texas' transfer class was ranked #17 by On3. Of the teams ranked above them, many schools had transfer class sizes much larger than Texas - Kentucky (26 players), UCLA (30 players), North Carolina (42 players)...Texas only had 11 players in its transfer class and the ranking services dinged them for this. 2) Recruiting Services give more weight to High School rankings than actual on field College production. Case in point: Look at Micah Hudson from Texas Tech (5-star prospect who had 8 catches on the season and couldn't win a starting job at Tech) vs. Emmitt Mosely V (3-star prospect who had 48 catches as a true Freshman at Stanford). Who was ranked as a higher transfer prospect? Micah Hudson. Recruiting services need their transfer rankings to weigh actual college production more than what somebody did in 5A High School football at Lake Belton. Seems obvious but these recruiting service guys watch more HS football than actual College football tape (except for the estimable Gerry Hamilton). 3) Transfer Recruiting Rankings don't weigh whether actual Team Needs were met. If you're a top program like Texas or Ohio State, you're not going to take as many players from the Portal, and that's a GOOD thing. What you really need is to fill the actual needs you have, not to try to accumulate a bunch of 4 stars just to fill up a class. Texas did an incredible job of filling the key positions of need at WR, TE, D-line+++, and specialists (Kicker + Punter). This is not reflected in their grade. Hook em'! Edited Monday at 07:06 PM by Lam Dinh 10 1 Quote
Moderators Gerry Hamilton Posted Monday at 07:53 PM Moderators Posted Monday at 07:53 PM It's so much instant gratification in the portal rankings ... And totally agree with No. 2 ... Johntay Cook being ranked in any portal ranking is absurd. 6 Quote
Moderators CJ Vogel Posted Monday at 08:02 PM Moderators Posted Monday at 08:02 PM Agree on all three. 3 Quote
ArizonaLonghorn Posted Monday at 08:52 PM Posted Monday at 08:52 PM 1 hour ago, Lam Dinh said: Per Bobby's comments on Coffee and Football today, I also believe Texas is under-ranked in transfer portal rankings but I believe it is due to 3 factors: 1) Transfer Portal class sizes vary tremendously. 2) Recruiting Services give more weight to High School rankings than actual on field College production. 3) Transfer Recruiting Rankings don't weigh whether actual Team Needs were met. Hook em'! Excellent post Lam. Good ideas with convincing examples - the comparison of Micah Hudson to Emmett Mosley especially. Post more please! 3 Quote
DanielOnorato Posted Monday at 09:54 PM Posted Monday at 09:54 PM It's also a testament to Texas returning talent and recruiting classes. I think many pundits who aren't quite as familiar with the Texas program don't give enough value to the additions that were made as they were very specific to fill needs and voids. Teams that have the cupboard half empty have more on paper potential for impact transfers to some national folks. That being said, they are completely wrong. 2 Quote
Bobby Burton Posted Monday at 10:21 PM Posted Monday at 10:21 PM I’d add one more item to make it four. The most transfers Texas has in any transfer top 100 is 2 out of 11. I basically just think they under-ranked the individual players. 2 Quote
AJJ_Sports Posted Monday at 10:23 PM Posted Monday at 10:23 PM I don’t take any of these rankings seriously anymore, they are all just personal opinions at the end of the day. 1 Quote
Hookem72 Posted Monday at 11:00 PM Posted Monday at 11:00 PM Watch Emmett Mosley’s highlights on YouTube against Clemson. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3N8Tv5FD-Po He is legit. Most of those rankings are made by people who never watched any film or actual games. 1 Quote
TexasFanatic Posted yesterday at 02:36 PM Posted yesterday at 02:36 PM (edited) 16 hours ago, Bobby Burton said: I’d add one more item to make it four. The most transfers Texas has in any transfer top 100 is 2 out of 11. I basically just think they under-ranked the individual players. I find this crazy to me. Brevard was a good player at Purdue and got Big 10 recognition. Mosley was arguably a top 5 freshman WR last year and did all his production in like 9 games with a terrible QB. Watson is a top 10 portal player. He was a freshman all American. (Not just ACC Freshman AA). He a going to be a day 1/2 pick in 2/3 years. I think he’s the best DT in the portal due to eligibility, upsides, and production The most absurd is Endries. He is arguably a top 2/3 returning TE (PFF #2) in the country. All four of these guys should be top 25-50 portal players. I can understand guys like the punter and kicker not being “ranked” high though. Edited yesterday at 02:38 PM by TexasFanatic 1 Quote
Paul Jespersen Posted yesterday at 03:02 PM Posted yesterday at 03:02 PM Agree completely. I think the ranking system overall is broken in that it counts quantity as a key measure. What if you just don't need that many? It doesn't make the class worse, just smaller. Doubly so for portal - if you don't need to replace your entire team because they suck, why should that devalue the quality of your class? Its just a totally unimportant metric that literally drives the rankings due to its importance in the formula. Should just be an average star ranking or something like that. I can't think of a single reason for it to be tied to quantity. But heh, I was never great at maths... 🤘 2 Quote
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