OTF Premium Thoughts on Arch Manning

[DanielOnorato]

4 minutes ago, aggiecutter said:

Arch doesn't process information quickly enough. All the great QB's have the abilility to process quickly. It'something that can't be taught. You either have it or you don't.

Locked onto his receivers prior to every throw. Didn't seem to have timing or understanding of what would be available. Left a lot of guys open over the middle.

[Avishai Schiff]

29 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Rod and I said the least pre-snap motion of any game we could remember in real time 

I wonder if, for all the strides in the run game (and decent time for Arch in pocket), Sark yet trust the OL to hold their water for all the complicated pre-snap action

[Paul L]

I will agree with pretty much everything you said there.  My one caveat is that it is hard for Sark to game plan when his QB can’t make expected throws.  These next 3 games might be what Arch needs to get comfortable and get his confidence where it should be.  

[Quinncent McManning, Jr.]

As i said in the game thread… too many poor side arm flicks without feet set. Look at this throw (ignore the fact that endries would have walked in for a td)

 

 

[LonghornLegends]

1 minute ago, Quinncent McManning, Jr. said:

As i said in the game thread… too many poor side arm flicks without feet set. Look at this throw (ignore the fact that endries would have walked in for a td)

 

 

There was open receivers like that multiple times, and pretty much every time throw was skipped to them or overthrown. He was extremely inaccurate and flustered till about the last 5min.

[harveycmd]

12 minutes ago, Avishai Schiff said:

I wonder if, for all the strides in the run game (and decent time for Arch in pocket), Sark yet trust the OL to hold their water for all the complicated pre-snap action

I'd say it's true Sark was worried abut pre-snap penalties, which kept him from using motion as much as he has in the past. 

The more I think about it, I don't really think the offensive game plan was bad or too simplistic. Arch missed throws. Ohio State covered well. Perhaps if Sark had used more tempo and quick passing game, it would have helped the offense move more in the first half. Sark probably wanted to avoid putting his defense back out on the field really quickly early in the game. That's not bad coaching.

The two empty red zone possessions in the second half was the reason Texas lost.

Edited 16 hours ago by harveycmd

[Coach840]

I definitely didn’t remember him throwing sidearm last yr. 

[LonghornFan4Ever]

15 minutes ago, Traves said:

I think our WRs were overhyped

When you can’t complete a simple drag route it looks that way.  I do think Wingo should’ve risked an OPI to prevent that INT by Arch though.

[snugsie]

4 minutes ago, Quinncent McManning, Jr. said:

As i said in the game thread… too many poor side arm flicks without feet set. Look at this throw (ignore the fact that endries would have walked in for a td)

 

 

It's Quinn all over again. Not stepping into throws. Relying too much on arm talent.

[Coach840]

5 minutes ago, Quinncent McManning, Jr. said:

As i said in the game thread… too many poor side arm flicks without feet set. Look at this throw (ignore the fact that endries would have walked in for a td)

 

83 may score  on that play

 

[DanielOnorato]

7 minutes ago, Quinncent McManning, Jr. said:

As i said in the game thread… too many poor side arm flicks without feet set. Look at this throw (ignore the fact that endries would have walked in for a td)

 

 

Spencer Shannon #83 bare ass. Brutal QB play.

[MBHORNSFAN]

45 minutes ago, drag worm said:

For a team with such elite talent we seem to lack a home run hitter or a sure 2 yarder at RB. The two starters are good but not great. Just watch other games today. 

There is a reason Sark wants D. Cooper so bad. 

[awashbump]

I don’t think the run game was as good at the box score suggests. Patricia was fine with letting Texas get good runs when the field was big, but Texas simply didn’t run the ball when it counted. (3 & 4th and short, goal line)

[Kunu]

Hoping this plays out like Jalen Milroe a few years back… 

 

let down against Texas, brutal and replaced against USF…. 
 

goes on to finish 6th in Heisman voting. 
 

Defense is elite. Talent is there on offense. Can’t miss 5-8 yard throws. Missed reads on back to back goal to go plays… 

 

whole season infront of them, last 2 years give me faith they will have a shot in December.

 

Hook’em and beat SJSU

[drag worm]

Just now, MBHORNSFAN said:

There is a reason Sark wants D. Cooper so bad. 

Yep he’s what we need. Unfortunately he’s a high school senior right now and we still can’t score inside the five. 

[HDub1995]

Anything to the rumor floating that Arch is dealing with a shoulder injury?

[Chop]

I think Arch was just gripping the ball too tight and I don’t blame him. 
 

I don’t care what you say- there’s no way he doesn’t feel additional pressure this game and season. He’ll loosen up and hit the easy throws which will open everything else up. 
 

remember- we had no tape in their offense or defense and going against my Pats Matt Patricia and some crazy great defense and schemes. It will get better. 
 

has to get better 

[HudGar1922]

less interviews and commercials and more hitting receivers in the hands not the feet 

[harveycmd]

I don't get the quasi meltdown. Arch's problems weren't that bad. Look at Bama's Simpson.

[HookemChappy]

Arch doesn’t like the TE. It was open all day. One read. Bad throw

[4thandFive]

1 hour ago, Joe Zura said:

The fact Sark had his QB in the 3rd year of the system in training wheels most of the game I just couldn’t get behind. But this is coming from an idiot who watched the game from the couch. Anyway Hookem 🤘🏼🤘 only can have one more loss long season ahead we got this 

Yeah…I don’t know what’s up but it’s annoying that Sark clearly planned to limit Arch. 
 

Arch missed wide open plays and maybe if he makes those it doesn’t matter. But IMO (another idiot watching from a living room chair) Sark plays scared too often. 

[4thandFive]

1 hour ago, Bunk Moreland said:

Part of me wonders if this was an experiment by Sark to test his running game, OL, and RBs to see if they could smash OSU without any creativity. In that regard, it actually worked pretty well. But I’m not sure testing your offense is a legitimate reason to not play to win. Very bizarre. It’s clear Sark recognizes they could afford to lose this game, but that appears to have made him complacent. We now have MUCH less margin for error the rest of the way. Hope Sark, Arch, and the whole offense learn from this and  continue to get better.

I feel almost exactly the same way. Sark looked like he was playing this game knowing he could lose it and be ok. 

[LonghornFan4Ever]

27 minutes ago, snugsie said:

It's Quinn all over again. Not stepping into throws. Relying too much on arm talent.

Have to wonder if these mechanics are being taught to them by the staff at this point.

[Bunk Moreland]

2 minutes ago, LonghornFan4Ever said:

Have to wonder if these mechanics are being taught to them by the staff at this point.

Sark knows too much about playing the position and developing elite QBs to not notice this and be bothered by it. I am genuinely confused by QB mechanics and development under Sark and Milwee at Texas.

[Gerry Hamilton]

14 minutes ago, HDub1995 said:

Anything to the rumor floating that Arch is dealing with a shoulder injury?

He hadn't been hit until today