Kyle Flood

[Txhorn1213]

Has any coach since Sark coming to Austin underperformed more and continued to stay? We had the Pancake Factory that was the only result in us getting the only good OL haul that still couldn’t really run block. We just missed out on a year with Arch purely because of the oline. Biggest portal need? Oline. Everyone talked all year how interior OL will be easy to come by in the portal. Here we are with absolutely no viable picture next year at interior OL, even Vogel said it. The most needed position got graded a C- by mods here. We run out PK but still employ Flood is something that blows my mind

[Aspann85]

I hope these threads start getting nuked. Yall are beating the dead horse so much that the horse might just pull a Frankenstein’s monster and wake up…ridiculous.

Edited 1 hour ago by Aspann85

[Tuco Ramirez]

Flood? Never heard of him. 

[Txhorn1213]

5 minutes ago, Aspann85 said:

I hope these threads start getting nuked. Yall are beating the dead horse so much that the horse might just pull a Frankenstein’s monster and wake up…ridiculous.

Listen I hear you. But this is a message board, this isn’t the Texas board of Regents, we can bring these topics to the attention of this site for a reason. Flood is a Cristobal leaving for Miami situation away (how we actually got Banks) from being a certified bank robber of UT funds as an employee 

[Aspann85]

Just now, Txhorn1213 said:

Listen I hear you. But this is a message board, this isn’t the Texas board of Regents, we can bring these topics to the attention of this site for a reason. Flood is a Cristobal leaving for Miami situation away (how we actually got Banks) from being a certified bank robber of UT funds as an employee 

Just go post in one of the other 500 threads started about it. That’s the problem. We don’t need 5 new threads a day started on this topic.

[Jceciliano98]

12 minutes ago, Txhorn1213 said:

Has any coach since Sark coming to Austin underperformed more and continued to stay? We had the Pancake Factory that was the only result in us getting the only good OL haul that still couldn’t really run block. We just missed out on a year with Arch purely because of the oline. Biggest portal need? Oline. Everyone talked all year how interior OL will be easy to come by in the portal. Here we are with absolutely no viable picture next year at interior OL, even Vogel said it. The most needed position got graded a C- by mods here. We run out PK but still employ Flood is something that blows my mind

Starting a new hate flood thread i see. 

[Jonesyfam7]

Clearly all Sark’s fault.  Flood does no wrong.  😉

[Bunk Moreland]

Kyle Flood completely changed the OL dynamic at Texas from a national joke that hadn’t had a first-round draft pick for 20 years into a team strength by 2024. The 2024 line wasn’t perfect but it was one of the best in the country and to say otherwise is to be blinded by confirmation bias.

He developed Christian Jones from a terrible waste of talent who could barely walk straight into an NFL player. He developed Goosby from a skinny basketball player into a likely top-15 draft pick. The whole country was laughing at Kelvin Banks after his all-star camp performance his senior year, but look at what he became. Jake Majors and Hayden Conner got so much crap from Texas fans, but under Flood they became NFL players.

His recruiting has been up and down, no doubt. It’s insane that the cupboard was so bare last year. But that’s every bit on Sark and his roster management as it is on Flood. Flood’s IOL development has not been great, but I think that’s as much a problem with the “large humans” philosophy as anything. And recruiting massive linemen who can’t move was fully a Sark-endorsed idea. 

As bad as the line was to start last year, the job Flood did to turn it into a solid unit to end the year does not get enough credit.
 

Has he made mistakes? Absolutely. I still think the reliance on unproven young players last year was inexcusable. But yall are going to run the man out of town, and we are just going to have to live with the results. But be careful what you wish for.

Edited 52 minutes ago by Bunk Moreland

[Rocky P]

21 minutes ago, Txhorn1213 said:

Listen I hear you. But this is a message board, this isn’t the Texas board of Regents, we can bring these topics to the attention of this site for a reason. Flood is a Cristobal leaving for Miami situation away (how we actually got Banks) from being a certified bank robber of UT funds as an employee 

I think he is stating that this is not the first post - there are been a lot about this.   It's very narrow sited to say that he has underperformed since sark has been here.  He has developed DJ Campbell to be a draft pick, Cam Williams was a 3* that got drafted (Should have stayed another year but he made that decision)  Goosby is a 3* that developed. Hayden Conner 3* that developed into an NFL draft pick.  Jake Majors 3* that did a great job as our center (Came in as a tackle) and is on an NFL roster.  Kelvin Banks 1st round pick.  Christian Jones, completely changed his trajectory from a backup in college to an NFL draft pick.

 

He has generated more OLinemen draft picks since being at Texas than texas had in the DECADE prior. 

 

[hookem1014]

We just saw Miami and Indiana showcase 2 elite OL groups filled with upperclassmen on the depth chart. As of now nearly every single backup on the Texas OL will be a freshman or RS freshman. The staff could be confident that the younger guys are developing, but having multiple vets along your line makes a big difference. If we want to play 16 games you have to be prepared for injuries along the OL. Texas took 5 DL last portal cycle. The same should’ve been done this year at OL.

Yall can tell people stop complaining…of course our opinion doesn’t change anything. But fans have a right to be very disappointed as we’ve been looking forward to this OL portal class for months 

[mmdaytontexas]

24 minutes ago, Txhorn1213 said:

Has any coach since Sark coming to Austin underperformed more and continued to stay? We had the Pancake Factory that was the only result in us getting the only good OL haul that still couldn’t really run block. We just missed out on a year with Arch purely because of the oline. Biggest portal need? Oline. Everyone talked all year how interior OL will be easy to come by in the portal. Here we are with absolutely no viable picture next year at interior OL, even Vogel said it. The most needed position got graded a C- by mods here. We run out PK but still employ Flood is something that blows my mind

Who gives a crap if the guy started another thread? You don't have to read it or post in it. Just ignore it if you don't like it and it will soon disappear if the first page.

This board and some of its posters are starting to sound like the same idiots who made the IT board suck so badly. Unfortunately, they might have moved over here.

I would 1000% prefer new threads over these albatross novel-like threads that take you a day to read, go off in 15 different tangents, and you have to read the entire thing for context. I also don't mind a little off-topic thread now and then, especially during the off-season. It makes board more interesting.

Bottom line, by trying to play board-police you ruin all new threads. 

@Txhorn1213

Sark obviously likes Flood and trusts him. Why, only he can answer that. If we never get an answer to that question we will only drive ourselves crazy thinking about it. Sark, and CDC to some extent, are responsible for the production of this team, and we have to believe they are not going to keep a guy around who is not doing their job. That would be professional suicide. Hook'em 🤘

[AceHorn23]

39 minutes ago, Txhorn1213 said:

Listen I hear you. But this is a message board, this isn’t the Texas board of Regents, we can bring these topics to the attention of this site for a reason. Flood is a Cristobal leaving for Miami situation away (how we actually got Banks) from being a certified bank robber of UT funds as an employee 

Everyday though? Same topic 12,000 threads on it.

[Beldar]

20 minutes ago, Txhorn1213 said:

Listen I hear you. But this is a message board, this isn’t the Texas board of Regents, we can bring these topics to the attention of this site for a reason. Flood is a Cristobal leaving for Miami situation away (how we actually got Banks) from being a certified bank robber of UT funds as an employee 

Tell me this. How did we go 35-8 last three years and make playoffs twice and should have this year without decent Oline play.  

[mmdaytontexas]

20 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said:

Kyle Flood completely changed the OL dynamic at Texas from a national joke that hadn’t had a first-round draft pick for 20 years into a team strength by 2024. The 2024 line wasn’t perfect but it was one of the best in the country and to say otherwise is to be blinded by confirmation bias.

He developed Christian Jones from a terrible waste of talent who could barely walk straight into an NFL player. He developed Goosby from a skinny basketball player into a likely top-15 draft pick. The whole country was laughing at Kelvin Banks after his all-star camp performance his senior year, but look at what he became. Jake Majors and Hayden Conner got so much crap from Texas fans, but under Flood they became NFL players.

His recruiting has been up and down, no doubt. It’s insane that the cupboard was so bare last year. But that’s every bit on Sark and his roster management as it is on Flood. Flood’s IOL development has not been great, but I think that’s as much a problem with the “large humans” philosophy as anything. And recruiting massive linemen who can’t move was fully a Sark-endorsed idea. 

As bad as the line was to start last year, the job Flood did to turn it into a solid unit to end the year does not get enough credit.
 

Has he made mistakes? Absolutely. I still think the reliance on unproven young players last year was inexcusable. But yall are going to run the man out of town, and we are just going to have to live with the results. But be careful what you wish for.

Great post with a lot of truths. I think Sark sees this and it's why he trusts Flood. Yes, he's not been perfect in his evaluations and recruiting, but he doesn't get enough credit for the good he has done. 

I think he could use help with another coach who really knows IOL and run blocking (evaluations and techniques), but again Sark has to see that deficit and make that call. 🤘

[AceHorn23]

50 minutes ago, Txhorn1213 said:

Has any coach since Sark coming to Austin underperformed more and continued to stay? We had the Pancake Factory that was the only result in us getting the only good OL haul that still couldn’t really run block. We just missed out on a year with Arch purely because of the oline. Biggest portal need? Oline. Everyone talked all year how interior OL will be easy to come by in the portal. Here we are with absolutely no viable picture next year at interior OL, even Vogel said it. The most needed position got graded a C- by mods here. We run out PK but still employ Flood is something that blows my mind

Arch wasn't very good early despite the Oline. If you don't remember, just about everyone said that this past year was the year before the year. Meaning that more was expected in 26. 

[Gerry Hamilton]

53 minutes ago, Txhorn1213 said:

Has any coach since Sark coming to Austin underperformed more and continued to stay? We had the Pancake Factory that was the only result in us getting the only good OL haul that still couldn’t really run block. We just missed out on a year with Arch purely because of the oline. Biggest portal need? Oline. Everyone talked all year how interior OL will be easy to come by in the portal. Here we are with absolutely no viable picture next year at interior OL, even Vogel said it. The most needed position got graded a C- by mods here. We run out PK but still employ Flood is something that blows my mind

The problem with the whole Flood argument is this ... he doesn't do a single thing from coaching, to personnel, to recruiting decisions, etc... without the head coach being in lock step. And thats just the facts. 

So that's where all these singular arguments about the OL coach that is the HC, play caller and ultimate decisions maker on offers get's interesting. 

They are the SAME.

So how does that adjust the thoughts and calling for the OL coaches job?

[Joe Zura]

[Bunk Moreland]

4 minutes ago, mmdaytontexas said:

Great post with a lot of truths. I think Sark sees this and it's why he trusts Flood. Yes, he's not been perfect in his evaluations and recruiting, but he doesn't get enough credit for the good he has done. 

I think he could use help with another coach who really knows IOL and run blocking (evaluations and techniques), but again Sark has to see that deficit and make that call. 🤘

I completely agree. Let Flood coach the tackles and the overall unit. His tackle development is elite. But breaking up the interior and tackles like we do on the DL could pay serious dividends. Also, moving away from the large humans philosophy should really help over the next few years. I do think that Flood needs to revamp his scheme, because Georgia (and others) have figured him out. He needs a better inside zone / power scheme.

[Beldar]

19 minutes ago, Rocky P said:

I think he is stating that this is not the first post - there are been a lot about this.   It's very narrow sited to say that he has underperformed since sark has been here.  He has developed DJ Campbell to be a draft pick, Cam Williams was a 3* that got drafted (Should have stayed another year but he made that decision)  Goosby is a 3* that developed. Hayden Conner 3* that developed into an NFL draft pick.  Jake Majors 3* that did a great job as our center (Came in as a tackle) and is on an NFL roster.  Kelvin Banks 1st round pick.  Christian Jones, completely changed his trajectory from a backup in college to an NFL draft pick.

 

He has generated more OLinemen draft picks since being at Texas than texas had in the DECADE prior. 

 

Don't confuse them with facts, Rocky. 

 

[Bunk Moreland]

3 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

The problem with the whole Flood argument is this ... he doesn't do a single thing from coaching, to personnel, to recruiting decisions, etc... without the head coach being in lock step. And thats just the facts. 

So that's where all these singular arguments about the OL coach that is the HC, play caller and ultimate decisions maker on offers get's interesting. 

They are the SAME.

So how does that adjust the thoughts and calling for the OL coaches job?

Anyone who thinks that Sark doesn’t ultimately control every single aspect of his program hasn’t been paying attention. If anything, he needs to delegate more. Sark has been very clear that he has the final word on everything from every recruit who is offered to playcalling to NIL strategy. The buck stops with him.

[4thandFive]

I think people understand that Sark is in control but they want the ax to fall somewhere for the problems they see and they know Sark is solidified. So the pitchforks are pointed toward Flood since he’s more expendable and an easier target.

[Txhorn1213]

4 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

The problem with the whole Flood argument is this ... he doesn't do a single thing from coaching, to personnel, to recruiting decisions, etc... without the head coach being in lock step. And thats just the facts. 

So that's where all these singular arguments about the OL coach that is the HC, play caller and ultimate decisions maker on offers get's interesting. 

They are the SAME.

So how does that adjust the thoughts and calling for the OL coaches job?

The positional coach is in charge of knowing his unit and development. Of course Sark makes the final call on roster management and play calling etc. But the position coach is solely in charge of development and informing Sark of what the oline can execute properly and contains the players necessary to win games. Rolling out Stroh week 1 after hearing all year it was Neto and Stroh looking like he just learned how to walk and not knowing our oline combination until 2/3 of the season is absolute malpractice no other way to put it. Hutson/Robertson/Campbell all plateau’ed last year, that should not be possible. I think I saw somewhere out of the 2025 OL haul only 1 player still remains? How far we’ve come from watching the Florida game

[Bunk Moreland]

Just now, Txhorn1213 said:

The positional coach is in charge of knowing his unit and development. Of course Sark makes the final call on roster management and play calling etc. But the position coach is solely in charge of development and informing Sark of what the oline can execute properly and contains the players necessary to win games. Rolling out Stroh week 1 after hearing all year it was Neto and Stroh looking like he just learned how to walk and not knowing our oline combination until 2/3 of the season is absolute malpractice no other way to put it. Hutson/Robertson/Campbell all plateau’ed last year, that should not be possible. I think I saw somewhere out of the 2025 OL haul only 1 player still remains? How far we’ve come from watching the Florida game

This is entirely fair. We will never know exactly what transpired to lead us to starting so much youth and inexperience last year and yet doing so with such confidence. But as far as I’m concerned, that’s a collective failure on Sark, Harris, Flood, and the personnel staff. I will say this: if the OL looks like a weakness this year, my tune might change on Flood. One off year after four years of gradual improvement is forgivable. But if turns into a trend, he’s gotta go.

[MBHORNSFAN]

9 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said:

Anyone who thinks that Sark doesn’t ultimately control every single aspect of his program hasn’t been paying attention. If anything, he needs to delegate more. Sark has been very clear that he has the final word on everything from every recruit who is offered to playcalling to NIL strategy. The buck stops with him.

 

So based on this logic he should not have fired PK since this is the argument against firing Flood 

[Battrayal]

Just now, MBHORNSFAN said:

 

So based on this logic he should not have fired PK since this is the argument against firing Flood 

The pk thing is because he had a better one lined up. Just like we let Parker go to get cam. Who do you suggest we replace flood with? I’m pretty indifferent on him but that’s because I don’t see this IOL portal class as anything worth getting mad over. The ones worth it, imo, we went after (brunner/Michigan guys/siani) but other than that it’s a bunch of meh. Which i think isn’t a sure fire better option than guys like Cojoe or Chatman in the program for a few years.

 

the thing about the portal class for me is depth, which there is still time for. I don’t pretend to know some of these guys asks for PT or $$ so hard to say who they should get, but the rest of the class has earned trust with me. If we get to 2026 with another poor oline then it’ll be time to ask the hard questions. Just too early for me personally